Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Heppenheimer

Heppenheimer

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hopemax said:
So what do people think this weekend's gatherings will do? Kick off another round, or are people staying home for once?
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If people gather foolishly, then yes, it probably will kick off another round.

I haven't looked at some of my neighboring northeastern states for awhile to see where their vaccine rates sit. Most are in the 50 and 60%s for completion of the series, and some topping off with over 70% receiving at least one dose. When you consider that this excludes kids under 12, I don't think we have nearly enough people vaccinated to avoid another surge, although hopefully nowhere near as bad as in the southeast.

Pennsylvania's numbers are only a few percentage points better than Florida's. I hope they're at least keeping other mitigation strategies...
 
sullyinMT

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dreday3 said:
Yeah, outside of a few people grilling in the park, I don't really know anyone who does anything for labor day.
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I can’t be the only one who thought of this with your comment:
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Andrew C said:
It’s a big RV travel weekend. Comparable to the 4th. And Memorial Day.
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Hopefully people stay outside, and in smallish groups. Either RVing, cookouts, or whatever. Of course, it’s also HHN opening weekend and at least tonight is sold out, so …
 
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Polkadotdress

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helenabear said:
I know it sucks, but that is something that people in the trials ran the risk of. Sadly a few of trials that were later are losing participants due to this. Just keep in mind she can drop out at any time if it does get in the way too much. I know it feels like a total punishment, but be proud that she was trying to help. Hopefully someone will approve it soon and can have her covered as many just need WHO approval globally. I am curious were they unblinded? Articles I read suggested it but didn't say for sure (just that they were going to).
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It definitely is a real-life example of “No good deed goes unpunished.”

She’s not unblinded. Her letter states that she received a vaccine sometime between a 6 month period, with the time frame clarified in her letter. At the end of this year, they will unblind.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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Heppenheimer said:
If people gather foolishly, then yes, it probably will kick off another round.

I haven't looked at some of my neighboring northeastern states for awhile to see where their vaccine rates sit. Most are in the 50 and 60%s for completion of the series, and some topping off with over 70% receiving at least one dose. When you consider that this excludes kids under 12, I don't think we have nearly enough people vaccinated to avoid another surge, although hopefully nowhere near as bad as in the southeast.

Pennsylvania's numbers are only a few percentage points better than Florida's. I hope they're at least keeping other mitigation strategies...
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There is definitely something wrong with the CDC numbers for PA. The 1 dose vs fully vaccinated is way too wide. PA has 69.6% of total population and 82.6% of adults with 1 dose but 55.4% of total population and 66.1% of adults done. There’s no way 16% of adults skipped shot 2 or got shot 1 in the last 4 weeks. I believe there is an issue with some second shots being counted as new first shots that hasn’t been corrected yet. I know that happened in my county and they corrected locally. My guess is the true number is closer to the ballpark of north of 60% of total population and 70% of adults done which is around where NY and NJ sit and PA has been tracking similar to those states.
 
hopemax

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dreday3 said:
Yeah, outside of a few people grilling in the park, I don't really know anyone who does anything for labor day.
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I wonder if it's regional.

Back home (PacNW), Labor Day was always a big thing because traditionally school started the Wed after. DH's family always went camping, including this year (everyone of age is vaccinated). My family usually went to my Aunt & Uncle's house or they came to us.
 
correcaminos

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Polkadotdress said:
It definitely is a real-life example of “No good deed goes unpunished.”

She’s not unblinded. Her letter states that she received a vaccine sometime between a 6 month period, with the time frame clarified in her letter. At the end of this year, they will unblind.
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Sorry I'm confused, was she told she got the actual vaccine? That's what it would mean to be unblinded as part of a double-blind study.

Problem with not being unblinded is even if you suspect you have no proof. I know it sucks but it's something we risked joining the trials. I'm really sorry their studies seem to be more and more delayed on applying for approval here.
 
correcaminos

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Andrew C said:
Some third shot news...

www.foxnews.com

COVID-19 booster shots: Health agencies advise they need more data before issuing guidance

Health officials have advised the White House that regulators need more time to review necessary data before approving a COVID-19 booster shot plan.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
www.nytimes.com

Health Officials Advise White House to Scale Back Booster Plan for Now (Published 2021)

Federal regulators warned on Thursday they may not have enough data to recommend boosters for anyone except certain recipients of the Pfizer vaccine by late September.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Paywall on the 2nd but taking time to study and let numbers from trials to come in is wise IMO. I'm good with higher risk getting them though, but they've been doing studies on immunocompromised so they're a different population.
 
correcaminos

correcaminos

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Kevin_W said:
Interesting news from over in the UK:

www.reuters.com

UK panel does not recommend COVID vaccines for healthy 12- to 15-year-olds

Britain's vaccine advisers said they were not recommending the vaccination of all 12- to 15-year-olds against COVID-19, preferring a precautionary approach in healthy children due to a rare side effect of heart inflammation.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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I thought that was old news. Some disagree with it and still some vaccinated depending on their kids. Personally with Delta I'm a bit surprised.
 
Patcheslee

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hopemax said:
It's still a weighted/ biased subset. I imagine if you broke down blood donors by profession you would find some professions are more represented than the average. Medical workers and others who see first-hand, the need for blood donors, who themselves donate. Police, fire, EMS, social services, etc. But these professions, since they help people in need, would have been the group most likely exposed and infected before vaccines.
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Work use to host the blood mobile every other month for employees that wanted to donate. It's been on hold since covid first hit, many of the other manufacturing facilities, and the high school have stopped hosting as well. Blood drives are now being done more often by the churches.
 
sullyinMT

sullyinMT

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Kevin_W said:
Interesting news from over in the UK:

www.reuters.com

UK panel does not recommend COVID vaccines for healthy 12- to 15-year-olds

Britain's vaccine advisers said they were not recommending the vaccination of all 12- to 15-year-olds against COVID-19, preferring a precautionary approach in healthy children due to a rare side effect of heart inflammation.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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That is surprising, considering the relative risks both to children and the population at large if enough younger people "join the fray" of the vaccinated and drive both cases and hospitalizations into the ground. Endocarditis and MISC are both very real outcomes of COVID in that age group, as well. Tough choice in the light of lower community transmission, but I'm certainly glad my oldest is vaccinated going into this mess of a school year.
 
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