DisneyFan32
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How long the pandemic will gonna ending very soon? 2022? is Federal Transportation extending mask mandate until January 2022?
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correcaminos
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I know it sucks, but that is something that people in the trials ran the risk of. Sadly a few of trials that were later are losing participants due to this. Just keep in mind she can drop out at any time if it does get in the way too much. I know it feels like a total punishment, but be proud that she was trying to help. Hopefully someone will approve it soon and can have her covered as many just need WHO approval globally. I am curious were they unblinded? Articles I read suggested it but didn't say for sure (just that they were going to).
disneygeek90
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I wouldn't place my bets on "very soon," no.
DisneyFan32
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Next year is the pandemic will be ending in USA as other parts of the world too...
October82
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Next year is the pandemic will be ending in USA as other parts of the world too...
The pandemic is not going to "end" anytime soon - not at current vaccination rates.
DonniePeverley
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What's the latest case surge in Florida? Have cases peaked yet?
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
CDC Finds Over 83 Pct of Americans Had COVID Antibodies Before Delta Surge
The study examined almost 1.5 million blood donation specimens for antibodies between July 2020 and May 2021.
www.newsweek.com
"Florida on Friday reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that 17,506 COVID-19 cases were added Thursday, according to Miami Herald calculations of CDC data.
The state also reported no new deaths Thursday. In all, Florida has recorded at least 3,308,731 confirmed COVID cases and 45,909 deaths.
In the last seven days, on average, the state has added 324 deaths and 18,463 cases each day, according to Herald calculations of CDC data."
"There were 14,577 people hospitalized for COVID-19 in Florida on Friday, according to data reported to the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services from 260 Florida hospitals. That is 372 fewer patients than Thursday’s COVID patient population.
COVID-19 patients also accounted for 24.97% of all hospital patients.
Of the hospitalized in Florida, 3,270 people were in intensive care unit beds, a decrease of 70. That represents 49.38% of the state’s ICU hospital beds from 260 hospitals reporting data."
The state also reported no new deaths Thursday. In all, Florida has recorded at least 3,308,731 confirmed COVID cases and 45,909 deaths.
In the last seven days, on average, the state has added 324 deaths and 18,463 cases each day, according to Herald calculations of CDC data."
"There were 14,577 people hospitalized for COVID-19 in Florida on Friday, according to data reported to the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services from 260 Florida hospitals. That is 372 fewer patients than Thursday’s COVID patient population.
COVID-19 patients also accounted for 24.97% of all hospital patients.
Of the hospitalized in Florida, 3,270 people were in intensive care unit beds, a decrease of 70. That represents 49.38% of the state’s ICU hospital beds from 260 hospitals reporting data."
hopemax
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It doesn't feel like it should be surprising that people motivated to help their fellow humans by donating blood are also motivated to help their fellow humans by getting vaccinated. The study period concluded in May, so not only were many people vaccinated, they likely got vaccinated as soon as they were eligible. But there are limits of what to apply to the general population based on this. These high numbers within a subset of the population, didn't protect the unvaccinated against Delta in July.CDC Finds Over 83 Pct of Americans Had COVID Antibodies Before Delta Surge
The study examined almost 1.5 million blood donation specimens for antibodies between July 2020 and May 2021.
DisneyCane
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See the daily report from @DCBaker above.
As for the peak, it likely occurred but was not precisely measurable to to very high positivity, somewhere around 8/24.
DisneyCane
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The more interesting part of the study was the estimate that 20% have natural antibodies which gives a better idea of how many infections there have really been. That information can also be used to estimate how many people currently have no immunity because we know for sure how many are vaccinated (both with one dose or two).
hopemax
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It's still a weighted/ biased subset. I imagine if you broke down blood donors by profession you would find some professions are more represented than the average. Medical workers and others who see first-hand, the need for blood donors, who themselves donate. Police, fire, EMS, social services, etc. But these professions, since they help people in need, would have been the group most likely exposed and infected before vaccines.
aliceismad
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Here's the actual study, which clearly states in the abstract's conclusion "Despite weighting to adjust for demographic differences, these findings from a national sample of blood donors may not be representative of the entire US population." Later, in the Limitations section, it notes: "Fourth, vaccine-induced seroprevalence might be higher in blood donors than in the general population." Also, obviously this did not include children under the age of 16.CDC Finds Over 83 Pct of Americans Had COVID Antibodies Before Delta Surge
The study examined almost 1.5 million blood donation specimens for antibodies between July 2020 and May 2021.
It seems disingenuous for Newsweek to say "CDC Finds Over 83 Percent of Americans Had COVID Antibodies Before Delta Surge" (Newsweek does note the conclusion, but not until the third to last paragraph.)
Estimated US Infection- and Vaccine-Induced SARS-CoV-2 Seroprevalence Based on Blood Donations, July 2020-May 2021
This study estimates trends in SARS-CoV-2 seroprevalence related to infection and vaccination in the US population.
jamanetwork.com
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GoofGoof
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7 day moving average is below 19,000 for the first time in a month and is down 15% since this time last week. It seems likely cases have peaked but there’s a way to go to get back to the below 3,000 cases a day we had pre-July 4th.
GoofGoof
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Are we assuming everyone vaccinated has anti-bodies? If so 74.5% of adults have at least one shot and we know there have been a bunch of infections in unvaccinated people. It doesn’t seem unreasonable that the national average for adults would be somewhere over 80% between vaccination and natural immunity.Here's the actual study, which clearly states in the abstract's conclusion "Despite weighting to adjust for demographic differences, these findings from a national sample of blood donors may not be representative of the entire US population." Later, in the Limitations section, it notes: "Fourth, vaccine-induced seroprevalence might be higher in blood donors than in the general population." Also, obviously this did not include children under the age of 16.
It seems disingenuous for Newsweek to say "CDC Finds Over 83 Percent of Americans Had COVID Antibodies Before Delta Surge"
Estimated US Infection- and Vaccine-Induced SARS-CoV-2 Seroprevalence Based on Blood Donations, July 2020-May 2021
This study estimates trends in SARS-CoV-2 seroprevalence related to infection and vaccination in the US population.
aliceismad
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I assume each person would have some level of antibodies from one shot; however, the result of this study was in May 2021. At that point, vaccination rates were lower. Per the study "CDC estimates that 57.0% of US adults aged 18 years and older had received 1 dose or more of vaccine by May 2021."
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Some third shot news...
www.foxnews.com
www.nytimes.com
COVID-19 booster shots: Health agencies advise they need more data before issuing guidance
Health officials have advised the White House that regulators need more time to review necessary data before approving a COVID-19 booster shot plan.
www.foxnews.com
Health Officials Advise White House to Scale Back Booster Plan for Now (Published 2021)
Federal regulators warned on Thursday they may not have enough data to recommend boosters for anyone except certain recipients of the Pfizer vaccine by late September.
I think it's going to have very regional impacts. Places that are bad will get worse, places that aren't as bad will not get as much worse. For definitions of better/worse that include both current case counts and vaccination percent.
So, FL vs say MA will both likely see a bump. But the FL bump is going to be way worse. Both because FL is starting at a much worse level, so even if both see a 5% bump, the FL 5% is larger. And because the MA vaccination rate is enough higher that it's likely to see a smaller bump of the smaller starting number.
I'm guessing this was a serious question, but I read it as a joke.
If we've only learned one thing in the last 18 months, it's that people don't change and there's no chance of a "for once" change.
I know some see this weekend as a party opportunity but I doubt it’s in as large a number as the 4th or Christmas.
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