Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[JoeCamel]

There is a chance the Bucs will have home field advantage for the next superbowl. No, Mansion Butler is not the doctor, that is durango jim AFIK

I stand corrected. Mansion Butler lists professor on his profile so there is a good chance he is a PhD. Sorry for the guess sir and I hope you and your wife are well soon.

 

[GoofGoof]

Monorails.. we can go on and on. In Disney it’s virtually impossible to maintain 6 feet. As I sai, oh about 500 posts ago with any restrictions in place.. with certain insiders saying that there won’t be any character meets.. with only take out, no dining in until at least may 7.. how can you operate at all? Now all these things could change of course, but they could always change for the worse also.

Lots of money to be made on mini Ubers

I can’t see even a limited opening until mid-May right now...and that’s assuming things don’t get worse than projected.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I’m a gentleman like both and shared it with my wife...

UGH. I hope you both have a speedy recovery!

Perhaps our elected officials may catch on? Shelter in place, lockdowns, essential traffic only are some of the ways to try to flatten the curve because the hospital officials are going to run out of PPE in an estimated 2-3 weeks and are desperately trying to plead their case. The CDC recommends doctors who may be exposed to covid19 to keep working and medical professionals use homemade masks as a last resort. And that's not media make believe.

There's a handful of moms in our town that are scrambling to make as many as they can, and shuttered salons and other companies that have masks of any kind are stepping forward to donate them to Beth Israel (the local hospital).

 

[GoofGoof]

Now this is the kind of thinking outside the box we need:

A Las Vegas strip club is offering drive-thru shows, nude hand sanitizer wrestling, and 'coronavirus-free' lap dances

A representative for Deja Vu, which owns Little Darlings, told Insider that it's "business as usual" and the club is still offering lap dances.

www.yahoo.com

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Lots of money to be made on mini Ubers

I can’t see even a limited opening until mid-May right now...and that’s assuming things don’t get worse than projected.

Your being very optimistic! Hope I’m way off and you are correct sir.

 

[zengoth]

Food, drinks, merchandise, hotel rooms. Plus renewals of APs as the year drags on.

Right now, the Mexican Pavilion margarita bar alone would be a welcome site for this AP-er to dump some cash...er stimulate the economy.

 

[GoofGoof]

Right now, the Mexican Pavilion margarita bar alone would be a welcome site for this AP-er to dump some cash...er stimulate the economy.

You could dump a whole stimulus check on one night drinking around the world

 

[thomas998]

A note on herd immunity. In order for it to work you need a large portion of the population to get sick. For a really contagious disease like the measles it’s close to 95% of the population to be covered. Since corona is less contagious the experts estimate 50% to 70% of the population would need have it before herd immunity would slow the disease. So with roughly 330 million Americans we would need roughly 200 million people to be infected before herd immunity would be effective. If even 10% of those required hospitalization that’s 20 million people and remember the average person in the hospital isn’t getting better as quickly as 10 to 14 days. Some are in much longer. How many hospital beds and ventilators do we have? If the mortality rate holds to around the current 1.3% thats 2.6 million deaths in the US. I think this is why many other countries that started down the herd immunity plan have changed plans.

Given the initial mortality rates were much higher, I don't think the politicians were asking anyone that understood what was required for herd immunity any questions they just assumed it would be the easiest solution to maintain their positions of power. When the dust settles some of these politicians that did next to nothing will get to relish in the fact that they were responsible for hundreds of thousands if not millions of lost lives in their country... It will make their winning any future elections much more difficult than if they had just forced countries into lockdowns months ago to try and actually stop the virus from taking hold.

 

[21stamps]

Given the initial mortality rates were much higher, I don't think the politicians were asking anyone that understood what was required for herd immunity any questions they just assumed it would be the easiest solution to maintain their positions of power. When the dust settles some of these politicians that did next to nothing will get to relish in the fact that they were responsible for hundreds of thousands if not millions of lost lives in their country... It will make their winning any future elections much more difficult than if they had just forced countries into lockdowns months ago to try and actually stop the virus from taking hold.

Or... they could have tested people coming to or back into this country.

 

[GoofGoof]

Or... they could have tested people coming to or back into this country.

Expect that to be the new norm for international travel until a vaccine is available. China right now is dealing with no new domestic cases but cases being brought in from foreign visitors. Same could happen here if we aren’t very careful.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Or... they could have tested people coming to or back into this country.

They could have.. but we know now that carriers of this sometimes show no symptoms.

 

[Lilofan]

Monorails.. we can go on and on. In Disney it’s virtually impossible to maintain 6 feet. As I sai, oh about 500 posts ago with any restrictions in place.. with certain insiders saying that there won’t be any character meets.. with only take out, no dining in until at least may 7.. how can you operate at all? Now all these things could change of course, but they could always change for the worse also.

There are some highly used restrooms in all of the parks. At times, the cleaning crew can't even keep up with cleanliness. That would be a challenge now with covid19 in the air.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

They could have.. but we know now that carriers of this sometimes show no symptoms.

Or don't get very sick. I KNOW the virus isn't man-made, but man, this thing is slippery as all get-out.

 

[GoofGoof]

They could have.. but we know now that carriers of this sometimes show no symptoms.

Back then it wasn’t possible to actually test them but now we have a test that shows results in 45 mins and that could improve. If we get things under control but other places still haven’t I would hope they require all international travelers are tested on arrival before being allowed into the country.

 

[thomas998]

Expect that to be the new norm for international travel until a vaccine is available. China right now is dealing with no new domestic cases but cases being brought in from foreign visitors. Same could happen here if we aren’t very careful.

And the problem with testing on arrival is the person arriving may have taken medication to mask a temperature... or in some cases may not know they are infected and be at such as early stage that they don't show symptoms for several days... If you want the best option to deal with it you would do what Hawaii is doing right now and quarantining anyone that arrive from outside the state for 14 days... Now while that is going to work it is also going to eliminate almost all of their tourism industry because most people don't want to spend their 2 week vacation in a Hawaii stuck in a hotel room that at best only gives them a view of the beach.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Just got a pre-recorded call from our pediatrician - mornings are for well-checkups, afternoons for sick appointments. Any afternoon appointments already made will be rescheduled. I wish they'd mentioned calling ahead if you suspect your child has COVID-19...my favorite doc at that practice is elderly.

 

[DCBaker]

"As Disney continues to monitor the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, they have notified Cast Members that there will be a delay in scheduling for the week of March 29th through April 4th."

Disney Delays Cast Member Scheduling for April 1st and Beyond

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[TrainsOfDisney]

Disneyland closed for part of a day for an earthquake last summer.

Nope. I was there in the park when it happened. Some attractions closed for inspection but everything carried on as usual. That was in July, unless there was another earthquake that I wasn’t aware of.

 

[GoofGoof]

And the problem with testing on arrival is the person arriving may have taken medication to mask a temperature... or in some cases may not know they are infected and be at such as early stage that they don't show symptoms for several days... If you want the best option to deal with it you would do what Hawaii is doing right now and quarantining anyone that arrive from outside the state for 14 days... Now while that is going to work it is also going to eliminate almost all of their tourism industry because most people don't want to spend their 2 week vacation in a Hawaii stuck in a hotel room that at best only gives them a view of the beach.

They have a test now that you get results in 45 mins. No need to show symptoms. Just swab everyone off of the plane and you know for sure who has it. That would have to continue until a vaccine is available.

 

[DisneyCane]

The worst part is we didn't even really do anything that really had a chance to stop it. Closing schools happened first... but at the same time airports, buses and trains were left alone. So what exactly was closing schools supposed to even do? It was like worrying about your electric bill so you made sure to turn off the light in the garage but left every other light in the house turned on. Each time they have done something it isn't proactive it is always reactive and too late to really do anything beyond allow them to say we did something. And the flattening the curve nonsense is very annoying because it makes assumptions that are not proven true and are all based on assumptions that are based on incomplete data. Sure it would be nice if flattening the curve so that no one that ever needed a hospital could get access when they did need it... but that's pretty much proven to be a pipedream in New York alone. So flattening the curve which pretty much implied that everyone was going to be infected and we just want it to happen at a slower rate isn't going to work. Which means we would have been just as well doing absolutely nothing and letting it peak as soon as possible, or actually trying to eliminate it by a complete lockdown of all airports in January... but now what have we accomplished? Everyone will be infected, hospitals will still collapse at some point and the economy has been nuked.

Also, some part of the overwhelming of healthcare resources is people seeking medical attention that isn't necessary because of the "hype" of COVID-19. Under normal circumstances they'd think they had a cold or mild flu and stayed in bed for a few days. Now they go to an ER or doctor because they want to be tested even though it doesn't really matter if they test positive or not.

Well over 80% of the tests run in Florida are negative. Of the ones that test positive, only a small percentage really need medical care. If it wasn't for the hype, only that small percentage would be using up medical resources.

If the new virus hadn't been discovered, the world would have just thought it was a particularly bad flu season.

Every day this goes on we are taking away a day of quality life from 327 million people (just in the US) and causing economic damage that will adversely affect the quality of life of millions of people for months or years to come.

None of these actions are justified without doing studies to determine the real percentage of the population currently infected and what percentage of actual infections require hospitalization or ICU/ventilators.

If the Ohio official is correct and over 100,000 people in the state were already infected several days ago then the actual serious illness and mortality rate is infinitesimal since they have only reported 3 deaths. That would be a mortality rate less than 0.003% if the estimate is true.