Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Polkadotdress

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So do dentists. I hope people don't get their vaccine info while having a cavity drilled.
Dentists were authorized to administer the vaccine as part of the nationwide outreach program. So, hypothetically one COULD get their vaccine in tandem with a cavity repair.
US is averaging about 20K cases a day right now (2 week average). Compared to 68K in April, 240K in January, and 66K last July..

get more people vaccinated....
And FL says "hold my beer" with 8225 cases today, with is closing in on 50% of the nationwide counts.
 

Mark52479

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Again, I am not concerned too much about cases at this point.
If deaths and hospitalizations increase drastically and not just in pockets but nationwide, then we’re facing lockdowns again
I dont think we will see lockdowns again. Even Blue states this time won't lockdown.
 

Mark52479

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I mean. It’s not Florida. It’s the unvaccinated people in Florida.
This is correct.

There are tons and tons of rural areas in Florida and those are the places we are seeing the big spikes in cases.

Most of the big counties here in Florida have higher percentage of people vaccinated.
 

hopemax

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The most vulnerable have a high vaccination percentage rate...

Hospitalizations are going up a bit here and there, but I wouldn't expect it to be like this past winter by any means.

If someone thinks I am going on any sort of lockdown again due solely to the choices of the unvaccinated, they can kiss my you know what. Not doing it.
Just FYI there are places like around Springfield, MO that are experiencing hospitalizations in greater numbers than last winter. It’s causing more burnout stress among HC workers because they thought they had already seen the worst of things. Plus, the demoralization that comes from having to care for people who had a choice. And why they are talking about finding alternate care sites to house patients.

The potential strain on hospitals is as real as it ever was. Although the big cities with more resources and higher vax rates will not see it, and so the National numbers will not reflect the localized situations. It continues to be the middle population areas trying to handle the burden from the rural areas that surround them.
 

Trauma

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I promise you every single one of these hospitalized unvaccinated people know at least 3 other unvaccinated people.

How has just simple word of mouth not yet gotten around that hey this isn’t a joke?
 

hopemax

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I promise you every single one of these hospitalized unvaccinated people know at least 3 other unvaccinated people.

How has just simple word of mouth not yet gotten around that hey this isn’t a joke?
In the Missouri article I read, at least one patient is still spitting in a nurse’s face, when told they have COVID. Denial is a powerful thing. We’ve heard previously people dying, would more easily assume they have late stage cancer not COVID. Apparently, for some accepting you got “this one wrong and you could have saved yourself” is worse than dying.
 

KrzyKtty

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I find it "funny" that what isn't being reported is that "normal" COVID rates in states like FL, and many other states are increasing as well. The nation average of Delta Variant to COVID cases is about 58%. If this is correct, and if we want to say FL has it "worse" at 70% Delta, that still means of their 7k cases yesterday, over 2k were from COVID other than the Delta variant. This is still an increase over 2 weeks ago. This also times suspiciously with when just about every state in the nation said, "Well, the CDC said those with vaccines can now go maskless. Those without the vaccine, please wear your mask. But we won't enforce it, or check it, or do anything really. Honor system dudes." And now here we are a few short weeks later. And because Disney/Universal has already gone through the wringer this year, they bought into this hook line and sinker. And Disney was even more cautious than others. They still waited weeks longer than Universal to ease restrictions.

This whole, "Pandemic of the unvaccinated" is just as much the fault of those in charge as those who aren't vaccinated, because not everyone can. But because they don't want to admit they made a huge error, it isn't their fault for making a mistake, it is the Delta variant. Even though the Delta Variant isn't the only cause of the increase.... :( Blame shifted. And now that Pandora's box is open, Disney and others have no real choice but to follow, because it would be pandemonium and bad for business to keep enforcing something everyone else has stopped. They are hurting enough after the last year, they can't afford to alienate a large population base that is just DONE.

 

DisneyFan32

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I find it "funny" that what isn't being reported is that "normal" COVID rates in states like FL, and many other states are increasing as well. The nation average of Delta Variant to COVID cases is about 58%. If this is correct, and if we want to say FL has it "worse" at 70% Delta, that still means of their 7k cases yesterday, over 2k were from COVID other than the Delta variant. This is still an increase over 2 weeks ago. This also times suspiciously with when just about every state in the nation said, "Well, the CDC said those with vaccines can now go maskless. Those without the vaccine, please wear your mask. But we won't enforce it, or check it, or do anything really. Honor system dudes." And now here we are a few short weeks later. And because Disney/Universal has already gone through the wringer this year, they bought into this hook line and sinker. And Disney was even more cautious than others. They still waited weeks longer than Universal to ease restrictions.

This whole, "Pandemic of the unvaccinated" is just as much the fault of those in charge as those who aren't vaccinated, because not everyone can. But because they don't want to admit they made a huge error, it isn't their fault for making a mistake, it is the Delta variant. Even though the Delta Variant isn't the only cause of the increase.... :( Blame shifted. And now that Pandora's box is open, Disney and others have no real choice but to follow, because it would be pandemonium and bad for business to keep enforcing something everyone else has stopped. They are hurting enough after the last year, they can't afford to alienate a large population base that is just DONE.

Believe or not, NJ and NY are possibity not getting hit harder by Delta variant so far as by fall/winter comes as the cases will go way down lower then expect as FDA approval vaccines for all ages soon.
 

hopemax

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As a tag, to my last couple of posts. The article about Missouri, did have a glimmer of positivity. It had a comment from someone who works local clinics to reach the unvaccinated. Events at fire stations, churches, etc. A recent one had 126 people show up. They had gotten to the point where "20 was a good day."

Problem is, unless these people are going into a self-imposed lockdown for 6 weeks, they may not be protected enough before COVID gets them. Some people may decide it's still not worth it, because it's too late.
 
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