Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Andrew C]

Consequences of their actions. I'm not even sad anymore.

Texas is ticking up a bit. Cali is ticking up. New York. Illinois. All driven by unvaccinated individuals... Here is the 2 week trend line in the US...

 

[Animaniac93-98]

20% of all US cases are in Florida now.

If only there was a free, widely available form of medicine to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

Oh wait...

 

[SamusAranX]

Again, I am not concerned too much about cases at this point.
If deaths and hospitalizations increase drastically and not just in pockets but nationwide, then we’re facing lockdowns again

 

[Trauma]

Again, I am not concerned too much about cases at this point.
If deaths and hospitalizations increase drastically and not just in pockets but nationwide, then we’re facing lockdowns again

Why wouldn’t they increase drastically?

 

[DisneyFan32]

I'm afraid about this fall and winter for both NJ and NY now...

 

[Andrew C]

Why wouldn’t they increase drastically?

The most vulnerable have a high vaccination percentage rate...

Hospitalizations are going up a bit here and there, but I wouldn't expect it to be like this past winter by any means.

If someone thinks I am going on any sort of lockdown again due solely to the choices of the unvaccinated, they can kiss my you know what. Not doing it.

 

[Trauma]

The most vulnerable have a high vaccination percentage rate...

Hospitalizations are going up a bit here and there, but I wouldn't expect it to be like this past winter by any means.

If someone thinks I am going on any sort of lockdown again due solely to the choices of the unvaccinated, they can kiss my you know what. Not doing it.

Not trying to argue here I’m just dense.

So the line of thinking is the majority of unvaccinated is younger and healthier.

Therefore the logical conclusion IF delta is not more deadly is that we will see less hospitalization and death.

Sound right?

 

[DisneyFan32]

Texas is ticking up a bit. Cali is ticking up. New York. Illinois. All driven by unvaccinated individuals... Here is the 2 week trend line in the US...

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I'm worried about this one by fall/winter now...

 

[Andrew C]

Not trying to argue here I’m just dense.

So the line of thinking is the majority of unvaccinated is younger and healthier.

Therefore the logical conclusion IF delta is not more deadly is that we will see less hospitalization and death.

Sound right?

I think the logic is, delta seems to be more transmissible by all accounts. And it seems to be spreading in certain states because of it and cases are going up a bit (oh, and given the fact that we pretty much opened things up at the same time). And from this, there is going to be some sort of hospitalization increase. But given the most vulnerable have a high vaccination rate (and half the country is vaccinated), it would make sense to me at least that we will not see the numbers we saw in the past.

 

[DisneyFan32]

I guess we will find out in January 2022.

What is find out in January 2022?

 

[KrzyKtty]

This thread is a merry go round LOL. Just keeps going around and around the same discussions. Ring around the rosie...

 

[danlb_2000]

So I’m terrible at charts math everything.

From what I’m seeing here it doesn’t look like hospitalizations are decoupled from cases?

Can someone help me out with that?

You would be correct. Some people have said that we should be less concerned about case numbers and focus more on hospitalizations, but we are now seeing that there are not enough people vaccinated to decouple the two. Unvaccinated people are getting infected and we are now seeing that they are getting sick enough to end up in the hospital. In a couple weeks we will see how this translates into deaths.

 

[JoeCamel]

You would be correct. Some people have said that we should be less concerned about case numbers and focus more on hospitalizations, but we are now seeing that there are not enough people vaccinated to decouple the two. Unvaccinated people are getting infected and we are now seeing that they are getting sick enough to end up in the hospital. In a couple weeks we will see how this translates into deaths.

Every news cast needs to lead with the percentage unvaccinated in hospital. Hammer that out there and many will line up.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I think the logic is, delta seems to be more transmissible by all accounts. And it seems to be spreading in certain states because of it and cases are going up a bit. And from this, there is going to be some sort of hospitalization increase. But given the most vulnerable have a high vaccination rate (and half the country is vaccinated), it would make sense to me at least that we will not see the numbers we saw in the past.

The week ending July 11th, all but 6 states saw an increase in cases. 8 states were single digit percentage increases, but I'm going to be watching the trends. Tennessee was the highest percent increase at 250%, for a total of 2345 cases for the week. Florida, on the other hand, jumped only 44%, but had 23,697 new cases that week.

 

[Chi84]

Every news cast needs to lead with the percentage unvaccinated in hospital. Hammer that out there and many will line up.

They’re too busy leading with how many vaccinated people have died since the beginning of the pandemic and the latest extremely rare side effects from the vaccines.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

You would be correct. Some people have said that we should be less concerned about case numbers and focus more on hospitalizations, but we are now seeing that there are not enough people vaccinated to decouple the two. Unvaccinated people are getting infected and we are now seeing that they are getting sick enough to end up in the hospital. In a couple weeks we will see how this translates into deaths.

Hospitalizations and deaths also seem to be rising too, but not at the same rate.

 

[Andrew C]

The week ending July 11th, all but 6 states saw an increase in cases. 8 states were single digit percentage increases, but I'm going to be watching the trends. Tennessee was the highest percent increase at 250%, for a total of 2345 cases for the week. Florida, on the other hand, jumped only 44%, but had 23,697 new cases that week.

US is averaging about 20K cases a day right now (2 week average). Compared to 68K in April, 240K in January, and 66K last July..

get more people vaccinated....

 

[DisneyCane]

If only there was a free, widely available form of medicine to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

Oh wait...

Don't forget we want one that is safe as well!

 

[DisneyCane]

You would be correct. Some people have said that we should be less concerned about case numbers and focus more on hospitalizations, but we are now seeing that there are not enough people vaccinated to decouple the two. Unvaccinated people are getting infected and we are now seeing that they are getting sick enough to end up in the hospital. In a couple weeks we will see how this translates into deaths.

If you have chosen to be unvaccinated and you end up dead from COVID-19 my attitude is the same as Drago's towards Apollo Creed after the fight in Rocky IV.

 

[Andrew C]

Just some data. At peak in January, Texas had over 14K hospitalizations and was up there most of that month. By June, it was down to 1.4K. Today, sitting at 2.6K. Vaccination rate in Texas...maybe on the lower end, but not the worst. Not top 50% either.