Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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ParentsOf4

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Yes but he met with a person who has a staff that may not be fully vaccinated yet. I don't believe any person should get called out for wearing a mask
Well, by that logic, we have to wait until 100% are vaccinated before we stop wearing masks because somebody somewhere might not be vaccinated. :rolleyes:

Overwhelmingly, the science shows that fully vaccinated people do not need to wear masks. We continue to do so only out of an abundance of caution (and to set a good example).

Enough with reporters who brag about wearing double-masks while being fully vaccinated and out jogging.
 

mickeymiss

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It doesn't matter if they knew there was a line or not. The sign on the door says exit only, and over a year into the pandemic, those signs are something we're all used to seeing at this point so that stores can control guest flow and capacity.

There's no excuse that makes what those people did okay.
I've entered through an exit door before by accident especially when other people are doing it.

I didn't say it was okay. I said it wasn't newsworthy or malicious. It's hard for me to watch that video which would have been a completely normal day at Disney a few years ago and be outraged.
Again, my opinion ✌️
 

ImperfectPixie

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Well, by that logic, we have to wait until 100% are vaccinated before we stop wearing masks because somebody somewhere might not be vaccinated. :rolleyes:

Overwhelmingly, the science shows that fully vaccinated people do not need to wear masks. We continue to do so only out of an abundance of caution.

Enough with reporters who brag about wearing double-masks while being fully vaccinated and out jogging.
I will never call out anyone for choosing to be extra-cautious, regardless of what position they hold.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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I've entered through an exit door before by accident especially when other people are doing it.

I didn't say it was okay. I said it wasn't newsworthy or malicious. It's hard for me to watch that video which would have been a completely normal day at Disney a and be outraged. Again, my opinion ✌️
Same. In the real world “exit only” signs are more of a suggestion to help with crowd flow at retail stores.
 

Rich Brownn

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Well, by that logic, we have to wait until 100% are vaccinated before we stop wearing masks because somebody somewhere might not be vaccinated. :rolleyes:

Overwhelmingly, the science shows that fully vaccinated people do not need to wear masks. We continue to do so only out of an abundance of caution (and to set a good example).

Enough with reporters who brag about wearing double-masks while being fully vaccinated and out jogging.
Remember anywhere from 5-10% of vaccinated people can still get sick, just not hospitilized or die. So its also common sense until we hit herd immunity
 

mickeymiss

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Well, by that logic, we have to wait until 100% are vaccinated before we stop wearing masks because somebody somewhere might not be vaccinated. :rolleyes:

Overwhelmingly, the science shows that fully vaccinated people do not need to wear masks. We continue to do so only out of an abundance of caution (and to set a good example).

Enough with reporters who brag about wearing double-masks while being fully vaccinated and out jogging.

I always thought the purpose of masking even after vaccinating was because other people are not vaccinated and you can't tell who has been or not? People who say ditch the mask only IF you've been vaccinated would still have to wear it at the grocery store because employees can't tell by looking at you if you've been vaccinated. Unless there's a glow we get? 😉 That is not to suggest we should be masking much longer but I personally would like to see how the vaccine is performing first.

It would need to be a "ditch the masks" policy for everyone or a gradual approach based on vaccine performance. I vote for the latter.
 

ParentsOf4

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Remember anywhere from 5-10% of vaccinated people can still get sick, just not hospitilized or die. So its also common sense until we hit herd immunity
I agree, the vaccines are not 100% effective.

However, several scientific studies have now stated that' the rate of transmission in non-crowded outdoor settings is practically nil.

We're talking about a bunch of government officials getting together, where the overwhelming majority (if not all) are fully vaccinated.

As the article I posted suggests, it's time for leadership to show hope, to show what life is like in a post-vaccine country.

If they continue to wear masks where the science says masks are not needed, a lot of people are going to say, "why bother to get vaccinated?"

Exactly who is following the science and who is virtue signaling?
 

correcaminos

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That’s well into conspiracy theory collaboration on keeping quiet.

And we do know that study participants here are well past 6 months and still showing plenty of antibodies.

If participants were not, of the thousands, some would have talked long ago.
Yep, we give the data as time goes on. I go in for my next blood draw in September. Honestly those that say they are hiding things make me wonder about agendas. Or they really do not get science. The trials will keep track of how well we have antiboides. There is no hiding or conspiracy theories with it. Just we only can have so much data.
I agree, the vaccines are not 100% effective.

However, several scientific studies have now stated that' the rate of transmission in non-crowded outdoor settings is practically nil.

We're talking about a bunch of government officials getting together, where the overwhelming majority (if not all) are fully vaccinated.

As the article I posted suggests, it's time for leadership to show hope, to show what life is like in a post-vaccine country.

If they continue to wear masks where the science says masks are not needed, a lot of people are going to say, "why bother to get vaccinated?"

Exactly who is following the science and who is virtue signaling?
Remember though mandates are in effect. They make some of what you say is virtue signaling to be a mandate. I don't wear indoors to be holier than thou, I do it for the mandates and there are some on federal properties too.
 

GoofGoof

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I don't know from that 5 second video if these people all knew about the standby line. There had to be a few that didn't. I don't think ride lines compare to store lines either especially since stores don't usually have outdoor lines. I like to occasionally give humanity the benefit of the doubt. People should follow the rules and Disney should enforce them if it's important to them. I agree that it would be frustrating for people waiting in line. I just don't think this was malicious or newsworthy. That's my own opinion. I rarely align with any one side of anything all the time which is why I don't participate in this forum much 😉 I wanted to share that perspective even though I knew it would get a reaction like yours. We will one day go back to normal and it's going to be a very interesting adjustment socially.
This is certainly not newsworthy for the general public. I agree with that. The people in the video knew they were entering through an exit only door as the signs were clearly marked. I agree we don’t know if they did it intentionally to beat the line at the entrance or if they just did it because they didn’t think they had to follow the rules, but either way that type of behavior wasn’t acceptable before covid and definitely is not acceptable during Covid times when an effort is being made to keep people safe by limiting capacity and crowd size and anyone who is at Disney World is aware of that. I didn’t really have much of a reaction one way or the other to the video. After the video of the people grilling hot dogs at an outdoor table when DS first re-opened nothing will really surprise me:).
 

ImperfectPixie

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Yep, we give the data as time goes on. I go in for my next blood draw in September. Honestly those that say they are hiding things make me wonder about agendas. Or they really do not get science. The trials will keep track of how well we have antiboides. There is no hiding or conspiracy theories with it. Just we only can have so much data.
There's a good portion of the country that believes - even to a small degree - that the government cannot be trusted to be truthful about anything.
 

Chi84

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As stated, it was in response to a private school saying they would fire staff who received the vaccine. State officials have confirmed that this is legal. So the state officials have essentially confirmed that in Florida it will be illegal to discriminate against unvaccinated persons but legal to discriminate against vaccinated persons.
Somehow I just don’t think this is going to be a thing. Most employers act sensibly because they want people to continue working for them. Sounds like someone was looking for their 15 minutes.
 

mmascari

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Well, by that logic, we have to wait until 100% are vaccinated before we stop wearing masks because somebody somewhere might not be vaccinated. :rolleyes:

Maybe, humor me a second, mask wearing rules were never about an individual persons vaccine status but always about community levels.

Hence, once community levels are met, nobody will need a mask, vaccinated or not. Not forever.
 
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