Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[ParentsOf4]

Poor messaging, she (head of CDC) really needs a team to clean up their output. The headline buried the lead which should have been "cleaning surfaces has reduced colds and flu to nothing this season but surfaces are a low covid risk") Really needs help

IMO, the headline should have been something along the lines of:

Regular Cleaning Reduces COVID Transmission​

But then that would not have resulted in as many clicks as the sensationalized headline.

 

[correcaminos]

Well it depends on who officially calls the summer season. Disney calls the summer season after Memorial Day but the summer season doesn't start for most until around July

Depends on where you live too. July is mid summer for us. We're done with school Memorial Day. July means back to school preparing if not back at school at the end of July for some (we do not but some do)

 

[Parker in NYC]

I may be wrong about my usual (what some people call doom and gloom) hitherto historically accurate COVID timeline predictions. You heard it here first. Broadway could be back a lot earlier than originally thought.

 

[Mark52479]

Very interesting remarks from Mayor Demings today. I did not see that coming at all.

If this does happen, that would pretty much be a domino effect in most counties in the state of Florida. Could very well happen by July for most counties.

If this does happen, and if other parks go a head and remove their mask mandates, I really dont see Disney sticking with masks past Sept or October.

But then again who knows..........

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Very interesting remarks from Mayor Demings today. I did not see that coming at all.

If this does happen, that would pretty much be a domino effect in most counties in the state of Florida. Could very well happen by July for most counties.

If this does happen, and if other parks go a head and remove their mask mandates, I really dont see Disney sticking with masks past Sept or October.

But then again who knows..........

If Disney ends masks and distancing they will have to think up a new excuse for no fireworks and live shows!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Also, despite what the headline says, nothing in the article quotes the CDC as saying to stop with the "hygiene theater." Whoever wrote that headline for Yahoo was irresponsible at best and intentionally dishonest at worst.

Indeed, the article describing the contents of the CDC statement is criminally misinformed.

We've known for a long time that touching things was a low (but not non-zero) risk for transmission. This is not new information from the CDC. Everyone continuing to wash their hands is a better solution than trying to wipe down *everything*, especially since touching one's own mask/face or other people are vectors of transmission as well as surfaces, to a lesser extent. Hand-washing solves them all.

We've known for a long time that transmission by air was as big a vector as by droplets.

Some extreme measures of disinfectants (like UV machines roaming supermarkets) has already been known to be overkill for COVID (but, hey, if you got the machine, let's knock out bacteria and virus that do indeed lurk on surfaces).

But it's not exactly "theater." Sanitization of surfaces really does produce sanitized surfaces. It's not pretend.

But the original overkill -- from when we didn't know how risky or non-risky surface transmission was -- can take it down a notch or two.

But we've known that. This isn't new. And wiping surfaces many touch isn't theater. Gassing a whole building for a day, is.

 

[Parker in NYC]

If Disney ends masks and distancing they will have to think up a new excuse for no fireworks and live shows!

Don't you remember? People don't go to Disney for fireworks or live shows or indoor dining. Unless opinions changed since last spring.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Don't you remember? People don't go to Disney for fireworks or live shows or indoor dining. Unless opinions changed since last spring.

I did forget! My bad. Ha.

 

[Patcheslee]

I’ve also recently been in a hotel where the “seal” sticker was clearly theater. I let the national parent of the franchise know and didn’t complete my stay. It’s that kind of thing that popped in my head when I read the original post.

What has been good in all of this, though, is an increased awareness of cleanliness. Like others, I hope at least that much sticks around.

I don't trust some hotel "standards". We booked a hotel room (not in Disney or even Florida) which also happened to also be 2 days after they had reopened for guests. The shower still had a hardened, slightly cracked, used bar of soap in it. Bar soap takes a long time to dry to the point of cracking open. Still the manager insisted the room had been "thoroughly cleaned with enhanced standards due to covid". I never received even a response email.

 

[GoofGoof]

If Disney ends masks and distancing they will have to think up a new excuse for no fireworks and live shows!

....or they could bring some of that back

 

[Parker in NYC]

I don't trust some hotel "standards". We booked a hotel room (not in Disney or even Florida) which also happened to also be 2 days after they had reopened for guests. The shower still had a hardened, slightly cracked, used bar of soap in it. Bar soap takes a long time to dry to the point of cracking open. Still the manager insisted the room had been "thoroughly cleaned with enhanced standards due to covid". I never received even a response email.

I still think anyone can throw a remote control in a plastic bag and call it sanitized.

 

[Figgy1]

Very interesting remarks from Mayor Demings today. I did not see that coming at all.

If this does happen, that would pretty much be a domino effect in most counties in the state of Florida. Could very well happen by July for most counties.

If this does happen, and if other parks go a head and remove their mask mandates, I really dont see Disney sticking with masks past Sept or October.

But then again who knows..........

IMHO Disney will remove the mandate when both legal and the unions agree to it not one nano second before

 

[Mark52479]

IMHO Disney will remove the mandate when both legal and the unions agree to it not one nano second before

That's a good point. The unions will probably have a say.

 

[correcaminos]

Don't you remember? People don't go to Disney for fireworks or live shows or indoor dining. Unless opinions changed since last spring.

Actually we don't really. If we do fireworks I prefer non park viewing or the cruise into Epcot. We don't do shows really. We're weird compared to many Disney fans I've found

 

[JoeCamel]

I may be wrong about my usual (what some people call doom and gloom) hitherto historically accurate COVID timeline predictions. You heard it here first. Broadway could be back a lot earlier than originally thought.

Yes, it is awakening.

Home - St George Musical Theater

New Theater Coming 2026 Learn More Donate The new theater will be around 20,000+ sq/ft and accommodate around 375 patrons while maintaining our exciting theater-in-the-round style of stunning performances. We hope that having this building will breathe life into this part of town and

www.sgmusicaltheater.com

 

[mmascari]

His graph is cases per 100,000 so it adjusts for population size. It’s cumulative cases not current cases. I think the point is that Michigan looks really bad with current cases but that’s just a catch up to some of the hardest hit areas overall. The current surge in MI is why their curve is almost straight up.

That graph adjusts for population (cases per 100k) this again shows your flaw of focusing on daily numbers, you need to look at trends. Michigan up until a month ago had done very well with Covid cases compared to the national norm, unfortunately, the bells now toll for Michigan. That graph shows why what’s happening in Michigan now isn’t happening everywhere, it’s because it already happened. And why for now I still remain optimistic. So long as we keep chugging with vaccinations this should pass soon.

Somehow I read that as Michigan watched NY cross the street and forget to look left. NY was hit by a truck. Then, having witnessed this event, Michigan went to cross the street, using all the new knowledge. Instead, they forgot to look left and got hit by the same truck. Now they both feel cumulatively bad.

It’s not a great look for learning from others misfortune instead of your own.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Yes, it is awakening.

Home - St George Musical Theater

New Theater Coming 2026 Learn More Donate The new theater will be around 20,000+ sq/ft and accommodate around 375 patrons while maintaining our exciting theater-in-the-round style of stunning performances. We hope that having this building will breathe life into this part of town and

www.sgmusicaltheater.com

Well, Utah.

 

[ABQ]

Actually we don't really. If we do fireworks I prefer non park viewing or the cruise into Epcot. We don't do shows really. We're weird compared to many Disney fans I've found

Well, with the size of the new Epcot monstrosities on the lagoon, they could use the Magic or Wonder cruise ships for fireworks excursions and still not impede views from the shore.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Actually we don't really. If we do fireworks I prefer non park viewing or the cruise into Epcot. We don't do shows really. We're weird compared to many Disney fans I've found

Oh, of course! But I’m referring to the throngs who told Disney they didn’t need any entertainment like that last year - and Disney may have *gulp* listened and now, folks in the performing arts may be further out of luck. Fireworks, eh.

 

[mmascari]

I’m totally fine with extra hand washing and cleaning. I hope that never leaves. I think they are specifically talking about is heavy duty cleaning products. Soap and water is more than enough to kill this particular virus.

Also, despite what the headline says, nothing in the article quotes the CDC as saying to stop with the "hygiene theater." Whoever wrote that headline for Yahoo was irresponsible at best and intentionally dishonest at worst.

There's some truth to the wrong focus on cleaning vs ventilation. We have schools just opening up partial this week. They will still be closed on Wednesday for cleaning and bathrooms are cleaned 4 times a day while they are there. Plus roving cleaning of halls during the day. Very little mention of ventilation in the return plan.