Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Mark52479]

Like I said in a previous thread, an Executive Order signed by Desantis may or may NOT hold water.......

Today though he mentioned how he will get the state legislature involved. NOW THAT is where the big issues comes into play and we could have a problem.

If the Florida State legislature passes a law saying NO VACCINE PASSPORTS there is absolutely NOTHING a Company Like Disney can do. Can they fight it, probably, I dont think they would though.

The States Legislatures hold all the cards here in FL and other states.

I am thinking more and more now WDW will NOT require vaccine passports. I originally thought it was a big possibility I have now changed my mind.

 

[Roy G. Dis]

Like I said in a previous thread, an Executive Order signed by Desantis may or may NOT hold water.......

Today though he mentioned how he will get the state legislature involved. NOW THAT is where the big issues comes into play and we could have a problem.

If the Florida State legislature passes a law saying NO VACCINE PASSPORTS there is absolutely NOTHING a Company Like Disney can do. Can they fight it, probably, I dont think they would though.

The States Legislatures hold all the cards here in FL and other states.

? Disney can absolutely decide who can enter their properties or am I missing something?

 

[Mark52479]

? Disney can absolutely decide who can enter their properties or am I missing something?

Would have nothing to do with private property at that point.

State legislature would sign a bill saying any entity doing business under the state of florida CAN NOT require vaccine passports.

This is where cruise lines can have some say since a lot do NOT do business as an Entity in Florida.

 

[GoofGoof]

Well that’s....something. I think that all but ends the discussion on WDW ever having a vaccine passport. Takes Disney off the hook to have to decide.

 

[Mark52479]

Well that’s....something. I think that all but ends the discussion on WDW ever having a vaccine passport. Takes Disney off the hook to have to decide.

Exactly my thinking too at this point

 

[MaryJaneP]

And as for vaccine passports, there is this

The state of play: James Koncar's fake vaccination card video — which included the caption "F*ck masks" — was highlighted by Mississippi pharmacist Savannah Malm, who has posted other viral call-out videos linked to the pandemic.

It would be hard to imagine how to tell real from fake.

 

[GoofGoof]

? Disney can absolutely decide who can enter their properties or am I missing something?

Yes, they could close and allow nobody in. If there is a law against businesses requiring vaccine passports I’m not sure private property matters. That’s for the courts to decide I guess.

 

[MaryJaneP]

State legislature would sign a bill saying any entity doing business under the state of florida CAN NOT require vaccine passports.

Wouldn't that encourage "offshoring" ownership? Kinda surprised they haven't already done this as many of the big cruise companies have "flags of convenience" to avoid US laws on thing like labor and safety, among others.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

By forcing private businesses to serve people who endanger others?

More like by protecting our freedoms. He’s done so since we’ve reopened.

 

[GimpYancIent]

That’s what the airlines oppose. They are not opposed to the creation of vaccine passports today (although they do prefer a federal one as opposed to 50 state programs) and they are not completely opposed to using them in the future should the need come. What they are opposed to is a government imposed requirement that they can’t control that requires a vaccination to fly domestically. They want to leave the option open and hope that the community spread is low enough to not need them.

Airlines in particular are looking at their businesses not public health. For a price they will transport anything, anytime, anywhere and do it professionally.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

Never thought I'd see the day when the government stands up to corporations and local leaders, albeit in a way I disagree with. I mean I don't really care either way if we have passports or not.

 

[Chi84]

Well that’s....something. I think that all but ends the discussion on WDW ever having a vaccine passport. Takes Disney off the hook to have to decide.

Yeah we’re going to need the federal government to step in soon.

 

[Mark52479]

Yeah we’re going to need the federal government to step in soon.

Probably would have no say in local state businesses. That would get challenged.

Same reason why President Biden was only able to do the mask mandate for Federal Facilities

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Never thought I'd see the day when the government stands up to corporations and local leaders, albeit in a way I disagree with. I mean I don't really care either way if we have passports or not.

Disney would win if they wanted to. I have no clue what Disney wants or doesn’t want at this point. Their mask rules are very strict - do any other businesses enforce the types of masks you can wear?

I’m all for mask rules and even I can’t figure out why disney doesn’t allow neck gaiters unless someone got it confused with gators which are strictly prohibited in the parks unless your name is Louis.

 

[Roy G. Dis]

You guys are living inside an alternate reality if you think WDW is going to go to no-masks, no-social distancing without any way to verify that people aren't going around spreading Covid. In this very thread on this very page there is a dude saying he'll never get vaccinated. And he's supposed to go butt-to-butt with everyone else with no mask in a huge crowd? You call that freedom? I call that cruel and unusual punishment.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

Disney would win if they wanted to. I have no clue what Disney wants or doesn’t want at this point. Their mask rules are very strict - do any other businesses enforce the types of masks you can wear?

I’m all for mask rules and even I can’t figure out why disney doesn’t allow neck gaiters unless someone got it confused with gators which are strictly prohibited in the parks unless your name is Louis.

Or Tick-Tock

 

[GoofGoof]

Yeah we’re going to need the federal government to step in soon.

That will get ugly. Remember that DeSantis is running for President in 2022 and he’s putting all his eggs in the anti-Covid restrictions basket. If Biden attempted to stop him that would be playing right into his hands politically. I’m hoping the vaccines get less political not more.

 

[Mark52479]

You guys are living inside an alternate reality if you think WDW is going to go to no-masks, no-social distancing without any way to verify that people aren't going around spreading Covid. In this very thread on this very page there is a dude saying he'll never get vaccinated. And he's supposed to go butt-to-butt with everyone else with no mask in a huge crowd? You call that freedom? I call that cruel and unusual punishment.

I could see a negative test. Especially when these rapid tests become more available.

Passports? They might have their hands tied on that one.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

That will get ugly. Remember that DeSantis is running for President in 2022 and he’s putting all his eggs in the anti-Covid restrictions basket. If Biden attempted to stop him that would be playing right into his hands politically. I’m hoping the vaccines get less political not more.

It would be wise for Biden to just continue on what's he's doing. Because apart from the hardcore trump base, he's decently popular. He wants to keep this streak going at least until we're in the post-pandemic timeline. Having him in these cultural war battles is something he can't afford

 

[GoofGoof]

I could see a negative test. Especially when these rapid tests become more available.

Passports? They might have their hands tied on that one.

I like that thinking. Well if they cannot require a vaccine passport they could require a negative Covid test for anyone entering and then say if you show proof of vaccination you are exempt from the test requirement. Problem solved. Then the company is not requiring anyone to get the vaccine to get in. Executive order defeated. Mickey Mouse one, Governor Ron zero