danlb_2000
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There is no indication the new policy means "mask between bites".
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There is no indication the new policy means "mask between bites".
correcaminos
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The death certificate - well that's not how it works. They don't ask you what to put down as cause of death. Not even close. Conspiracy theories and lies to promote a twisted narrative and agenda won't fly well here at least.
Not to mention no one says you have to put the mask between bites. That's not what any of that means. Just means you cannot sit around for hours after not eating without your mask just because you are at a table.
danlb_2000
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It's a little to early to claim victory, we do not know if the current downward trend will continue. At the moment the case number trend has flattened out. Still be a week or two before we know if this is a numerical anomaly, a short term slowing, or the beginning of another surge.
lazyboy97o
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It is amazing how so many people have nearly the exact same story of a friend whose relative died and they absolutely know the person didn’t die of COVID but the hospital, not the doctor, reported it as COVID. This latest repeat just left off the lawsuit.
DisneyDebRob
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Correct. Love the positivity of some here, that’s great but we have found out time and time again with this pandemic that trends mean nothing. Keep the masks on.. keep distancing.. keep the vaccines flowing.. don’t open up to fast and just maybe we can continue this trend. Just to many factors to be putting out the “ mission accomplished “ flag.. we see how that sometimes goes.
danlb_2000
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This is why I dont believe X amount died "of covid." They may have been positive, but not died of covid. Just because you die wearing Levis doesn't mean you died of levis.
Quote from the article, not my words: "I mean, it’s 100. It does not make any difference if it’s 99, but the validity that the fact that the individual didn’t die from COVID-19, died in a crash,” he said, “but you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash, so I don’t know the conclusion of that one"
At this point how deaths were counted really doesn't matter much to the bottom line since we now know that from March 2020 to January 2021 there were 527,000 more deaths in the US then in an average year. If these people didn't die from covid, what did they die from? I am sure the conspiracy theorists will come up with some other conspiracy to explain that.
Oh, shut up.
It is not a conspiracy. Here is more data, dare I say, proof, that the data is flawed.
There is no consistency in what a "covid death" is. Some people actually died of covid - no doubt. Some people died and positive. Some people were never tested and listed a covid deaths because they "probably" were.
lazyboy97o
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Polkadotdress
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Kindness matters, as Cinderella would say.
But you are sharing an article from April 2020, when we didn't quite know what we were doing yet. And the article specifically calls out the fact that deaths were likely UNDERCOUNTED due to a lack of access to tests. And the shortage of tests is exactly why many deaths were "likely" Covid, since the symptoms were there, but an access to a test was not.
The first column represents the year, the second the death rate and the third Growth rate. For the last ten years, the death rate has increased each year. With an increasingly aging population, this make sense.
| 2020 | 8.880 | 1.120% |
| 2019 | 8.782 | 1.120% |
| 2018 | 8.685 | 1.220% |
| 2017 | 8.580 | 1.240% |
| 2016 | 8.475 | 1.270% |
| 2015 | 8.369 | 1.270% |
| 2014 | 8.264 | 1.290% |
| 2013 | 8.159 | 0.090% |
| 2012 | 8.152 | 0.090% |
| 2011 | 8.145 | 0.090% |
| 2010 | 8.138 | 0.090% |
GhostHost1000
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That’s one concern I have about disney loosening restrictions. While the sooner they do it the more revenue they would likely get, they are also heavily into image and politics
correcaminos
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Here's my story. My aunt who died had a myriad of issues. Was sporting a fever as many near death do. She was tested negative the day or day before (honestly it's a bit of a blur which) she died and guess what her death certificate said? She died not of covid but of the ALS like disease she developed later in life after living with CP her entire life. Not a hint of covid. It's disgusting to me that people think they add it. Why would they? People disgust me with their lies.
correcaminos
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danlb_2000
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I found the source for this data, and you conviently left off this note:
U.S. Death Rate 1950-2024
Chart and table of the U.S. death rate from 1950 to 2024. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.
www.macrotrends.net
SamusAranX
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Wait, we can ask what is put on our death certificates? Man, i need to leave some cool causes in my will. I don’t want congestive heart failure, give me blunt force trauma with “hang-gliding off Everest” as a co-morbidity please. Sounds way cooler
danlb_2000
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I'm going to put "Overdose of Pixie-dust".
What about achieved total consciousness.
Archie123
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It won't be over in April at all but nice to think it will.
So you are calling my friend who lost her 50 year old son a liar!
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