Disney Experience
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She is 67 yo, so would fall into the 65+ group, and lives in the Lakewood ranch area.
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DisneyCane
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That chart above is date reported. This chart (out of the State report) shows deaths by date of death. Obviously, the most recent couple of weeks have to be ignored since they haven't been reported yet. The decline is real off of the peak in mid January which was the result of the winter spike:
Lakewood Ranch is one of the faster growing areas for retirees. It has been nationally ranked (Forbes, etc) as one of the most desirable area for retirees - if they can afford it. I've been on multiple European cruises over the past few years, and when I'm talking and tell people that I'm from Florida, at least one or two couples - every trip! - say they are planning to retire to Lakewood Ranch.
It is a rapidly growing area - I've had reasons to be there yearly for over 10 years, and the growth has been incredible form my first visit to my most recent (just before Covid precautions)
There is a very high percentage of people 65+ living there. There are large single family homes, condos, assisted living and nursing homes - all in 55+ communities. Along with a hospital. But also younger families. These are people who looked at The Villages further up the road (I-75) and decided to move here instead because it is not ALL 55+. And yes, they have higher incomes than other areas of the county.
If we are following the science, an area that has a large concentration of people over the age of 65 in various stages of health should have a place to vaccinate residents and a reasonable number of doses to cover as many as possible. The fact that they are prosperous elderly- some of whom donate to political campaigns - should not be used against them.
Epcotfan21
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Professor from John Hopkins University says we'll have herd immunity by April. Here's hoping...
www.wsj.com
Opinion | We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April
Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.
www.wsj.com
Heppenheimer
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Sounds nice, but although I generally think the Wall Street Journal is a solid paper, their opinion page is sometimes rather suspect on matters of medicine and science, particularly when it intersects with government policy. I'm not sure Dr. Makary makes the strongest case, since a lot of the data he quotes are assumptions. And if the Wall Street Journal needed to quote a surgeon (an excellent one, by all measures) rather than an epidemiologist or infectious disease expert to make the case, it makes the argument a little weaker.Professor from John Hopkins University says we'll have herd immunity by April. Here's hoping...
Opinion | We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April
Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.
Kind of like the time they featured an opinion piece about climate change written by a nutritionist, who got much of the basic chemistry very wrong.
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Tom P.
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I think there is one point he is making, though, that definitely stands out as correct in my mind: public health officials, as well as the media, are doing everything they can right now to tamp down any "good" news or "positive" reporting for fear that it will cause people to stop being cautious about Covid. But the problem is that the strategy is counterproductive. It is, IMHO, actually causing fewer people to agree to be vaccinated.
The mantra we are hearing over and over and over, ad infinitum, is "the protection is not 100%, you can still transmit the disease to others, you still need to wear your mask and socially distance, herd immunity is a long way off, the declining case numbers are deceiving, the variants are concerning" and so forth. Look, I get it. They don't want people to think Covid is over and stop taking precautions. But I guarantee you that for a significant percentage of Americans, the messaging is being distilled down to "even with the vaccine, we're not going back to our normal lives and things will still be bad, so why take the vaccine".
I really, sincerely believe that our public health officials, our news media, and, yes, our politicians, need to start accentuating more of the positive news. I don't think that will cause the American public to just willy nilly abandon Covid precautions. On the contrary. I think it will give them hope that we do now have a path out of this, that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that if we will all buckle down for just a few more months, plus take the vaccine when it's offered to us, we really can defeat this thing and go back to a fully normal life.
Disney Experience
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I think the one mistake they made was to create a VIP list with herself on it.( at least she is 67)
When the commissioner did this she went from public service to self service ( and of course no politician does this /sarcasm) . Did congress and other politicians do this too? Yes. It just looks like favoritism and privilege. When exposed it never looks good and makes the true primary intent of getting shots into arms of high pop 65+ areas conflated with the self service.
Chi84
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For the past few months we get the mail - once (maybe twice) a week - held together with a rubber bandCome to Chicago. It happens weekly!
There's an article in today's paper about trying to fire the Chicago postmaster."Two younger-looking women “came dressed up as grannies” to the Orange County Convention Center on Wednesday to try to get COVID vaccinations, health official Dr. Raul Pino said Thursday.
“The bonnets, the gloves, the glasses, the whole thing,” Pino said at an Orange County coronavirus news briefing.
The women were seeking their second coronavirus shots, Pino said.
Pino said he lacked details on how they could have gotten first dosages but said the women carried valid Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccination cards on Wednesday.
But “there were some issues with their IDs and their driver’s licenses,” he said.
The Orange County Sheriff’s Office told Spectrum News in an email late Thursday that personnel from the Florida Department of Health in Orange County asked deputies to “issue trespass warnings to two women who arrived at the (Convention Center) site for Covid vaccinations, with dates of birth that did not match those they had used to register for the vaccines. The names, however, did match the registration.”
The sheriff’s office said it took no other action.
The women were ages 34 and 44, according to dates of birth that the sheriff’s office provided.
The sheriff’s office said it had no other information. “And we don’t have any information about whether they were wearing disguises or how they were dressed,” it said.
Pino, the health official, noted a “very high demand” for the vaccinations in Orange County, as elsewhere, and said “there have been a few” such cases of residents misrepresenting themselves in attempts to get vaccinated.
In another case, Pino said, a man with the same name as his father showed identification that included a different birthday than his father.
“They’re all different and creative,” Pino said of such vaccination attempts. “But we have access to a lot of information, so we can quickly verify who is who.”"
www.mynews13.com
“The bonnets, the gloves, the glasses, the whole thing,” Pino said at an Orange County coronavirus news briefing.
The women were seeking their second coronavirus shots, Pino said.
Pino said he lacked details on how they could have gotten first dosages but said the women carried valid Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccination cards on Wednesday.
But “there were some issues with their IDs and their driver’s licenses,” he said.
The Orange County Sheriff’s Office told Spectrum News in an email late Thursday that personnel from the Florida Department of Health in Orange County asked deputies to “issue trespass warnings to two women who arrived at the (Convention Center) site for Covid vaccinations, with dates of birth that did not match those they had used to register for the vaccines. The names, however, did match the registration.”
The sheriff’s office said it took no other action.
The women were ages 34 and 44, according to dates of birth that the sheriff’s office provided.
The sheriff’s office said it had no other information. “And we don’t have any information about whether they were wearing disguises or how they were dressed,” it said.
Pino, the health official, noted a “very high demand” for the vaccinations in Orange County, as elsewhere, and said “there have been a few” such cases of residents misrepresenting themselves in attempts to get vaccinated.
In another case, Pino said, a man with the same name as his father showed identification that included a different birthday than his father.
“They’re all different and creative,” Pino said of such vaccination attempts. “But we have access to a lot of information, so we can quickly verify who is who.”"
Official: 2 People Dressed as "Grannies" to Get COVID Vaccine
“The bonnets, the gloves, the glasses, the whole thing”
www.mynews13.com
Disney Experience
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I was at a local breast cancer center yesterday. They were calling patients to reschedule appointments for anyone who had 1 or 2 covid vaccine shots in the last 8 weeks due to the risk of false positive mammogram results.
JoeCamel
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If all they wanted to do is get doses in arms all they had to do was give them to the county. There is a wait list with a bunch of people on it, call them and don't circumvent the process. That is why it looks like elitism.
BTW - I am on that waiting list.....
GimpYancIent
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Visible results, actual actions, real experiences and daily activities are over powering the, often, contradictory words and messaging. Slow but sure is the public understanding of what is actually going on rather than the media story. It will be interesting to see how many of the now familiar public figure's will be around after the next election cycle. It is not just about the vaccine itself.
Right, so the headline should have been - "vaccine can result in false positive mammograms" not "vaccine and cancer scare".
ABQ
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As this is a WDW forum, focusing on FL, I know that DeSantis tries to frame his statements in a positive light and he just gets berated endlessly as either, being clueless or just being a covid denier. Though it's very hard for me to objectively accept all that criticism as being level headed and not just partisan political spin. But it would help the populations morale if they weren't being slammed with news of a dark cold winter all the time.
"Federal officials will soon begin vaccinating thousands of Floridians at Valencia College’s West Campus, a boon for the region’s fight against COVID-19 and race to swiftly reach herd immunity.
Gov. Ron DeSantis announced the site in an email blast to reporters Friday, along with the Tampa Greyhound Track, the Gateway Mall in Jacksonville and Miami Dade Community College’s North Campus.
Each site will vaccinate about 2,000 per day, the email said, and will have two smaller satellite sites that can inoculate about 500 each per day in under-served areas. The sites are due to open March 3, from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. seven days a week.
To schedule appointments, the state will use its existing preregistering platform and use local organizations to help schedule appointments, DeSantis office said."
www.orlandosentinel.com
Here are the locations -
Tampa Greyhound Track
755 E. Waters Ave.
Tampa, FL 33604
Valencia College – West Campus
1800 S. Kirkman Road
Orlando, FL 32811
Gateway Mall
5200 Norwood Ave
Jacksonville, FL 32208
Miami Dade Community College (North Campus)
11380 NW 27th Ave.
Miami, FL 33167
Gov. Ron DeSantis announced the site in an email blast to reporters Friday, along with the Tampa Greyhound Track, the Gateway Mall in Jacksonville and Miami Dade Community College’s North Campus.
Each site will vaccinate about 2,000 per day, the email said, and will have two smaller satellite sites that can inoculate about 500 each per day in under-served areas. The sites are due to open March 3, from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. seven days a week.
To schedule appointments, the state will use its existing preregistering platform and use local organizations to help schedule appointments, DeSantis office said."
Feds to use Valencia College’s West Campus as COVID vaccine site
Federal officials will soon begin vaccinating thousands of Floridians at Valencia College’s West Campus, a boon for the region’s fight against COVID-19 and race to swiftly reach herd im…
www.orlandosentinel.com
Here are the locations -
Tampa Greyhound Track
755 E. Waters Ave.
Tampa, FL 33604
Valencia College – West Campus
1800 S. Kirkman Road
Orlando, FL 32811
Gateway Mall
5200 Norwood Ave
Jacksonville, FL 32208
Miami Dade Community College (North Campus)
11380 NW 27th Ave.
Miami, FL 33167
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Well there are other high risk groups than 65+. If we count the number of *everyone* who is high risk, are the doses distributed proportionally?
The poor and minorities are also of a higher risk... following the science. So, are special distribution sites being set up for them?
I don't know the demographics of FL. I don't know which counties and towns have the highest number of at-risk human beings. But the optics of targeting a rich, elderly community isn't good unless they can show the demographics that, indeed, this area of FL has a much higher percentage of at risk people than others.
Heppenheimer
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This sounds like it should be a Monty Python sketch."Two younger-looking women “came dressed up as grannies” to the Orange County Convention Center on Wednesday to try to get COVID vaccinations, health official Dr. Raul Pino said Thursday.
“The bonnets, the gloves, the glasses, the whole thing,” Pino said at an Orange County coronavirus news briefing.
The women were seeking their second coronavirus shots, Pino said.
Pino said he lacked details on how they could have gotten first dosages but said the women carried valid Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccination cards on Wednesday.
But “there were some issues with their IDs and their driver’s licenses,” he said.
The Orange County Sheriff’s Office told Spectrum News in an email late Thursday that personnel from the Florida Department of Health in Orange County asked deputies to “issue trespass warnings to two women who arrived at the (Convention Center) site for Covid vaccinations, with dates of birth that did not match those they had used to register for the vaccines. The names, however, did match the registration.”
The sheriff’s office said it took no other action.
The women were ages 34 and 44, according to dates of birth that the sheriff’s office provided.
The sheriff’s office said it had no other information. “And we don’t have any information about whether they were wearing disguises or how they were dressed,” it said.
Pino, the health official, noted a “very high demand” for the vaccinations in Orange County, as elsewhere, and said “there have been a few” such cases of residents misrepresenting themselves in attempts to get vaccinated.
In another case, Pino said, a man with the same name as his father showed identification that included a different birthday than his father.
“They’re all different and creative,” Pino said of such vaccination attempts. “But we have access to a lot of information, so we can quickly verify who is who.”"
Official: 2 People Dressed as "Grannies" to Get COVID Vaccine
“The bonnets, the gloves, the glasses, the whole thing”
Disney Experience
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I think Florida has set up special sites in underserved communities. I believe they used churches and synagogs in a few cases hoping that would make vaccination more attractive in certain locales where vaccination rate is low.
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