Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DCBaker]

Vaccine status for the country via Bloomberg Vaccine Tracker -

Bloomberg Vaccine Tracker

 

[DisneyFan32]

NY needs to SPEED up vaccine ramping now. They are too slow to reach herd immunity by 13-17 months. NY needs to faster from 13-17 months to 5-6 months or 3-5 months now. I want go back to NYC so badly this year.

 

[DCBaker]

The Orlando Sentinel has a new Q&A feature that will be regularly updated about COVID-19 vaccines in Florida -

"How does the state classify someone as ‘extremely vulnerable to COVID-19?’

It doesn’t. State health officials have left this category to the hospitals to decide — and, so far, the hospitals are the only ones authorized to provide vaccines to people they deem “extremely vulnerable.” That varies from hospital to hospital, and information has been limited. So far, AdventHealth has been the most forthcoming, and it has started with its organ- and bone-marrow transplant patients. Orlando Health has a long list of categories, from people with COPD to kidney disease to Down syndrome, but neither hospital has anywhere near the amount of vaccine necessary to inoculate all the people who qualify. We’ll provide more information as we get it."

Dispelling COVID-19 Myths: Your vaccine and other pandemic-related questions answered

The worst may be behind us. After rapid growth of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations over the last two months across Florida, both figures have trended down over the past week, signaling the …

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[danlb_2000]

Not just deaths but cases and also healthcare workers were in our first roll out - before elderly. Those in congregate living quarters. Those made up a large number of cases. Add it with holidays and yes numbers drop. Not sure why both working together is hard to believe.


Haven't heard of that either unless they are caregivers.

Smart to wait too. 3 or 4 weeks depending on the shot. Add in 2 weeks for immunity to build after 2nd shot

I find it hard to believe

The Orlando Sentinel has a new Q&A feature that will be regularly updated about COVID-19 vaccines in Florida -

"How does the state classify someone as ‘extremely vulnerable to COVID-19?’

It doesn’t. State health officials have left this category to the hospitals to decide — and, so far, the hospitals are the only ones authorized to provide vaccines to people they deem “extremely vulnerable.” That varies from hospital to hospital, and information has been limited. So far, AdventHealth has been the most forthcoming, and it has started with its organ- and bone-marrow transplant patients. Orlando Health has a long list of categories, from people with COPD to kidney disease to Down syndrome, but neither hospital has anywhere near the amount of vaccine necessary to inoculate all the people who qualify. We’ll provide more information as we get it."

Dispelling COVID-19 Myths: Your vaccine and other pandemic-related questions answered

The worst may be behind us. After rapid growth of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations over the last two months across Florida, both figures have trended down over the past week, signaling the …

www.orlandosentinel.com

So the federal government left this sort of thing up to the states, Florida is leaving it up to the hospital. Is the hospital going to leave it up to individual doctors!?

 

[GoofGoof]

@GoofGoof when we will go back to normal by summer or fall then COVID-19 will be no longer threat in US by fall as the pandemic ends in US soon.

If it were up to me it would be tomorrow...but I don’t control the virus. If the vaccine rollout continues to ramp up and people continue to get the vaccine we will be out of this pandemic sometime sooner than later. There‘s no reason to believe a return to somewhat normal isn’t likely for the Fall and possibly even sooner

 

[correcaminos]

I find it hard to believe


So the federal government left this sort of thing up to the states, Florida is leaving it up to the hospital. Is the hospital going to leave it up to individual doctors!?

I already guessed that before. I said it was in conjunction though. That does line up exactly with the end of holidays.

A personal story, a friend of mine was diagnosed with covid almost 2 weeks ago. Her mom was vaccinated with 1 dose only about 10 days before my friend got sick. Now we are not out of the woods yet, but 5 days is really close to average for onset of illness. She didn't get sick, which would've been devastating. So while you don't want to believe that getting this out of congregate facilities, and into the arms of first responders and then add in holidays ending doesn't matter, it all does. Every day we have a million people getting at least some strong immunity. We spiked so so so hard too it's not hard to believe people behaving and getting immunity didn't help some. Otherwise screw it and don't do a thing to mitigate. Every step from vaccinating, to distancing helps. Just look at Isreal. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00316-4

 

[Figgy1]

The current admin (which is actually being staffed...for a change...) is sandbagging those numbers. The targets I’m sure are much higher in private...

Can’t get votes (which equals money) if you come in under the bar.

Scotty always fixed the warp drive in 1/4 the time he said it would take...ya know?

Gotta like any post mentioning Scotty

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Interesting tidbit.
My friend who is a season ticket holder for a local sports team had heard rumblings on the internet of different requirements for crowds in stadiums for the season. He called the season ticket holder line (or whatever it is) and he was told to expect covid safety protocol, and proof of Vax.

Of course the ticket customer service line operators are some of the last people to know what's really happening, but its obvious the idea is being discussed.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I find it hard to believe


So the federal government left this sort of thing up to the states, Florida is leaving it up to the hospital. Is the hospital going to leave it up to individual doctors!?

So lemme get this straight? You’re doubting the ability to doubt Florida?

 

[JoeCamel]

OC Man Tests Positive For COVID-19 Weeks After Getting Second Vaccine Dose

Monday marked three weeks since a Lake Forest man received his second dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, and one day since he got a positive COVID-19 test result.

losangeles.cbslocal.com

We knew it was a possibility. Did anyone else see this? Sorry if it was posted.

The vaccine does not prevent you from having the virus it triggers your system to manufacture antibodies against so you may be positive but you don't get very ill if at all hence the need to continue covid safety procedures. You can still test positive. And..... the vaccine is NOT 100% effective.

 

[GhostHost1000]

If the vaccine doesn’t keep you from getting it or spreading it and probably half the population won’t even get the vaccine, at what point then do things return to normal or are we just going to wear masks forever? That is my concern here. This virus will never go away fully just like the flu so what does this mean. Something has to give somewhere sometime

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The vaccine does not prevent you from having the virus it triggers your system to manufacture antibodies against so you may be positive but you don't get very ill if at all hence the need to continue covid safety procedures. You can still test positive. And..... the vaccine is NOT 100% effective.

The vaccine doesn’t prevent someone from getting it...

It is meant to protect them from spending 3 weeks in the icu and/or dying from it.

As this thing cycles...many will technically be infected/reinfected...but most wont notice and shed far less...helping everyone.

 

[correcaminos]

The vaccine doesn’t prevent someone from getting it...

It is meant to protect them from spending 3 weeks in the icu and/or dying from it.

As this thing cycles...many will technically be infected/reinfected...but most wont notice and shed far less...helping everyone.

The vaccine is 95% effective. That means you have a small chance of getting it. That's what the studies tried to show. That article talking about mutant strains irks me. That's not why this happened, it just did. I'm curious if he was retested and it sounds asymptomatic too.

People will still get sick. That's what 95% means.

It absolutely does keep people from getting it though. That numbed is not about severity, it's about number of flat out positive.

 

[bdearl41]

The vaccine is 95% effective. That means you have a small chance of getting it. That's what the studies tried to show. That article talking about mutant strains irks me. That's not why this happened, it just did. I'm curious if he was retested and it sounds asymptomatic too.

People will still get sick. That's what 95% means.

The key is no one who’s been vaccinated is getting very sick. All results point to mild cases at worst after vaccination, regardless of strain or shot. When enough are vaccinated this will no longer hospitalize or kill people. Who cares if you feel a little tired for a couple days. The cold does that.

 

[correcaminos]

The key is no one who’s been vaccinated is getting very sick. All results point to mild cases at worst after vaccination, regardless of strain or shot. When enough are vaccinated this will no longer hospitalize or kill people. Who cares if you feel a little tired for a couple days. The cold does that.

Yep, as this guy showed no symptoms he's one of the few who will test positive. Out of those who do, they will be less severe or so all vaccine trials have shown. So you are 95% protected, but if you're the unlucky few you'll still not get really sick. Helps keep mutations down as well. If this is mild to nothing for all, it will turn into just another cold coronavirus.

 

[DisneyCane]

OC Man Tests Positive For COVID-19 Weeks After Getting Second Vaccine Dose

Monday marked three weeks since a Lake Forest man received his second dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, and one day since he got a positive COVID-19 test result.

losangeles.cbslocal.com

We knew it was a possibility. Did anyone else see this? Sorry if it was posted.

Stories like this are counterproductive and irresponsible click bait. It's these type of stories that will have people say the vaccine doesn't work so why bother getting vaccinated.

Part of the issue is the sensationalized semantics change with COVID where anybody who tests positive is considered a "case" of COVID. There should have been a distinction between confirmed infections (people who carry the virus and can spread it) and confirmed cases (people who carry the virus, can spread it AND become ill).

Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines appear to be nearly 100% effective in preventing severe cases which is, by far, the most important metric. Johnson & Johnson also seems to be very effective in doing that, especially the longer the time period from getting the shot.

Garbage, click bait "reports" like this have the potential to do serious harm to the vaccination effort by giving excuses to people for not getting vaccinated.

 

[hopemax]

Watching blue dots on the Publix site is vey boring. I am expecting no-joy today. Next chances are apparently Friday and Monday according to the Orlando Sentinel.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The vaccine is 95% effective. That means you have a small chance of getting it. That's what the studies tried to show. That article talking about mutant strains irks me. That's not why this happened, it just did. I'm curious if he was retested and it sounds asymptomatic too.

People will still get sick. That's what 95% means.

It absolutely does keep people from getting it though. That numbed is not about severity, it's about number of flat out positive.

I have read a great deal of these articles...but not all...

And this is where it gets confusing. It’s being presented...most definitely this last month...as preventing different degrees of infection. That has been very muddled with the Johnson and Johnson data.

I’m no expert...but it seems more dynamic than “95 out of 100” don’t get anything.

Shades of gray

 

[Heppenheimer]

I have read a great deal of these articles...but not all...

And this is where it gets confusing. It’s being presented...most definitely this last month...as preventing different degrees of infection. That has been very muddled with the Johnson and Johnson data.

I’m no expert...but it seems more dynamic than “95 out of 100” don’t get anything.

Shades of gray

I'm still waiting to see J&J's published results. Maybe they're waiting for the FDA meeting.

 

[hopemax]

Watching blue dots on the Publix site is vey boring. I am expecting no-joy today. Next chances are apparently Friday and Monday according to the Orlando Sentinel.

We got one! First shot scheduled for Friday!