Familyof5
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Totally agree. And, let's get a move on approving more vaccines. Astrazeneca - no hospitalizations, no deaths - in vaccinated participants.
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Familyof5
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Depending upon the vaccine....you may need a booster.
DisneyCane
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#4 for the day. Too bad the powerball jackpot isn't big. Today might be the day to buy a winning ticket. Maybe I should give it a shot for the $42 million!I get your point...but it doesn’t matter what I know/think.
What matters is the PR game over the next 6 months. This is a mass exercise...and giving the masses less to chew on is best.
If you say “95%” and people are still having closings/cancellations/hospitalizations hit the media...the “it’s all bull” segment is gonna grow...because it’s their first instinct on EVERYTHING anyway.
And we don’t need that.
Familyof5
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"Full of controversy".... not sure this is accurate. I agree their PR is lacking. However, their efficacy study showed 100% protection against hospitalization and/or death. UK study showed 80% against getting mild/moderate Covid and effective against the UK variant. Goodness, this is amazing science but really bad PR.
Sirwalterraleigh
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18-31-44-7-53-3-22
James J
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This. In terms of the SA variant news, today one of the leading specialists in the UK (Professor Jonathan Van Tam) said that the study has not been peer reviewed and is in a particularly young population and it measured mild disease. People should be very cautious in how the study is interpreted as it doesn't look at protection against severe disease and in the older age groups.
DisneyCane
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You should have PM'd that to me. Now I'm only going to win $150 after the split.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Best sentence on this entire 5,000 page thread
correcaminos
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I guess I don't understand what you think we need. 95% efficacy is what was stated. That's not up for interpretation.I get your point...but it doesn’t matter what I know/think.
What matters is the PR game over the next 6 months. This is a mass exercise...and giving the masses less to chew on is best.
If you say “95%” and people are still having closings/cancellations/hospitalizations hit the media...the “it’s all bull
And we don’t need that.
JAKECOTCenter
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The WHO an hour ago recommended the AstraZeneca vaccine for all ages
Tom P.
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I know I'm going to be called all kinds of bad things, but I wouldn't believe the WHO if they told me that aspirin could help a headache. I'll wait until the FDA weighs in.
Kman
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You clearly have a limited understanding of American history. Ignoring slavery for a moment (which everyone understands was a horrific evil perpetrated on black folks), American racial history since emancipation has been nothing but an unmitigated disaster. Between "reconstruction", Jim Crow and now the "New" Jim Crow (modern-day mass incarceration starting in the early 1980's) black folks, in particular, have been abused and mistreated by the American government and people almost without any interruption since the day they landed on your shores more than 400 years ago. Recently, tens of millions of people voted for a racist xenophobe in your last election. Racism and discrimination are not going anywhere any time soon. There are plenty of people out there who would love to "go back to the good old days". Pathetic
correcaminos
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Based on what findings?
Edit: remember I am pro-vax here and even am in the Pfizer/BioNTech trial. I just know the trials are not addressing teens, let alone kids yet. That's not really something I advocate just like I don't passing out shots when supply for 2nd dose would be unknown.
GoofGoof
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They aren’t talking about kids. When they say all ages they mean 18+ but especially 65+ since some countries were recommending that 65+ not get this vaccine and wait for a “better one”.
Sirwalterraleigh
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My point is that it’s not as simple as you’re making it.
When the J&J numbers came out...they said 67% and 85% - on more nuanced studies - and the perception was immediately “i don’t want that...I want the 95”
But the 95 wasn’t studied under the same conditions...namely no variants
It is grey in the PR lens
Those are pretty strong words to say about President Biden. I'm sure many would disagree with you.
danlb_2000
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"U.S. government researchers found that two masks are better than one in slowing coronavirus spread, but health officials stopped short of recommending that everyone double up.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday reported the results of a lab experiment that spaced two artificial heads 6 feet from each other and checked to see how many coronavirus-sized particles spewed by one were inhaled by the other.
The researchers found that wearing one mask — surgical or cloth — blocked around 40% of the particles coming toward the head that was breathing in. When a cloth mask was worn on top of a surgical mask, about 80% were blocked.
When both the exhaling and inhaling heads were double-masked, more than 95% of the particles were blocked, said the CDC’s Dr. John Brooks.
“The first challenge is to get as many as people as possible masking. And then for those that do mask, to help them get the best benefit out of that mask,” Brooks said.
The study had many limitations: The researchers used one brand of surgical mask and one kind of cloth mask, and it’s not clear if results would be the same with every product. But it echoes some earlier research that suggests two masks are better than one.
“It works,” Brooks said.
The CDC also was updating its guidance to address wearing two masks. If done correctly, a cloth mask worn over a surgical mask can tighten the gaps around the mask’s edges that can let virus particles in, the CDC said."
CDC study finds two masks are better than one vs. COVID-19
NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. government researchers found that two masks are better than one in slowing coronavirus spread, but health officials stopped short of recommending that everyone double up.apnews.com
I think using the term "double-masking" may turn some people off to this, I know I have already seen in on my Facebook feed. What we are really talking about here is the quality of masking. We have probably gotten everyone who is going to wear a mask to wear one, but now we need to focus in more on wearing the best available mask. If you have a good quality, well fitting, multi-layer mask, then double masking really isn't necessary. If that's not what you have access to, then multiple layers of less ideal masks is a good alternative.
LittleBuford
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What is turning them off exactly?
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