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Brevard. About 30 minutes from MCO ( orlando airport). It is also home for Port Canaveral where Disney and others in normal times cruise from.
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DisneyCane
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There is now a state website to register for appointments and also phone numbers for those without internet access. I saw it on the Florida department of health twitter feed.
oceanbreeze77
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We have been doing that in CA but people have been put on hold for HOURS, often times not even having the opportunity to speak to someone for days (theres a callback option). Hopefully Floridas goes way better.
JoeCamel
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You don't talk to anyone here it is automated
willtravel
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Top epidemiologist urges single doses of COVID-19 vaccine
A top infectious disease expert said Sunday the US needs to rush giving out the first doses of the COVID-19 vaccine before an anticipated “Category 5” hurricane-like surge in cases.
www.foxnews.com
Apologize if this has been posted or talked about but this part surprised me from the article. Anyone else read this elsewhere?
One dose of Moderna’s vaccine has proven to be 80 percent effective, while just one shot of Pfizer’s has an efficacy rate of 52 percent, the drugmakers said.
JoeCamel
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Well that will stir urgency among a certain demo. Maybe that is what it's designed to do?Top epidemiologist urges single doses of COVID-19 vaccine
A top infectious disease expert said Sunday the US needs to rush giving out the first doses of the COVID-19 vaccine before an anticipated “Category 5” hurricane-like surge in cases.
Apologize if this has been posted or talked about but this part surprised me from the article. Anyone else read this elsewhere?
One dose of Moderna’s vaccine has proven to be 80 percent effective, while just one shot of Pfizer’s has an efficacy rate of 52 percent, the drugmakers said.
Still is not what the EUA says to do no matter what he "thinks".
willtravel
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I guess I missed any reports saying that first shot is 80% effective. I would still get the second shot though. That's a plus for Moderna if true.
Heppenheimer
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Convenient that Fox News finds a source that once again pushes the easy solution, not the more difficult one that requires patience.
I lost two patients over the weekend to COVID-19, at least one of whom followed bad advice on mitigation measures and probably got 4 other people sick as a result. Suffice it to say, I've had enough of the grifters, hucksters, whataboutisms, "fake news" declarers, self-defined "patriots", "free-thinkers", anti-vaxxers, and just general contrarians.
We all hate this pandemic. We all want to it end as soon as possible. But pretending that there's some kind of magic loop hole that will get us out of the pandemic sooner, rather than doing the necessary but harder things is why January of 2021 will go down as one of the deadliest months in American history. 95.3K lives lost in the US, by my count, between December 31st and January 31st. That's about the equivalent of losing an Albany-sized city in one month.
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Kevin_W
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For what it's worth, I saw that same recommendation from a different (non-Fox) news source.
It's not an easy decision either way, as there is merit to both approaches. The NYT had a nice article this morning about the unfortunate use of the word "effective" for these vaccines.
"In the official language of research science, a vaccine is typically considered effective only if it prevents people from coming down with any degree of illness. With a disease that’s always or usually horrible, like ebola or rabies, that definition is also the most meaningful one. |
But it’s not the most meaningful definition for most coronavirus infections." |
Not sure where you are, but I totally get the sentiment. Since cases up here in the great white north have been falling steadily for 2 straight months, we’ve got a lot more hope up here that this thing is ending. Personally, I’m really happy I’ve made it to day 14 with my 2nd vaccine and am now protected. My colleagues and I feel like we’ve entered the top of the ninth inning and if we can just hold out a little longer this thing will be over soon.
Heppenheimer
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I'm pretty far to the north too (almost on the border with Quebec). We had the same spike that everyone experienced over the holidays, but it was at a much lower baseline than most of the country. The spike appears to be over now, as new cases have started to sharply decline, but we still have the residuals remaining from the holiday bump.
Neither of the two deaths I referenced were unexpected, but considering that heretofore none of the patients on my panel had died from the disease, it still felt like we passed a grim milestone.
Kevin_W
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Congrats on the vaccination.
I'm feeling fairly optimistic these days, though I know doom predictions are still out there. The # of people int he hospital with Covid has dropped in half since mind-December in my state, as as the daily number of infections. Coupled with rising #'s of vaccinations (and the targeting of the most at-risk) has me hopeful this trend will continues and that the bleak projections of yet another spike from UK/SA variants won't happen.
correcaminos
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So the reality with Pfizer/BioNTech is that " But according to the FDA analysis, strong protection of about 82% occurred after the first doses and was 52% between the two doses."Top epidemiologist urges single doses of COVID-19 vaccine
A top infectious disease expert said Sunday the US needs to rush giving out the first doses of the COVID-19 vaccine before an anticipated “Category 5” hurricane-like surge in cases.
Apologize if this has been posted or talked about but this part surprised me from the article. Anyone else read this elsewhere?
One dose of Moderna’s vaccine has proven to be 80 percent effective, while just one shot of Pfizer’s has an efficacy rate of 52 percent, the drugmakers said.
Which means it drops. The 'efficacy' rates are using much lower numbers.
FDA documents show Pfizer COVID vaccine protects after 1 dose
Why do we keep arguing against the science and the trials though? This is getting to be a dangerous line of thinking. The end result is that 80 or 50 or whatever percentage is not as known as the 95%. We need to stop pushing against advice given out of fear. We could cause more issues in the end. If our government had actually been looking out for us, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
danlb_2000
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What isn't known is how long the protection lasts if you only get one dose. Do you get the 80% for the same amount of time as you would if you got both doses, or does the protection drop of faster if you you only got one?
You mean the predicament of having 3 successful vaccines less than a year after the pandemic started?So the reality with Pfizer/BioNTech is that " But according to the FDA analysis, strong protection of about 82% occurred after the first doses and was 52% between the two doses."
Which means it drops. The 'efficacy' rates are using much lower numbers.
FDA documents show Pfizer COVID vaccine protects after 1 dose
www.cidrap.umn.edu
Why do we keep arguing against the science and the trials though? This is getting to be a dangerous line of thinking. The end result is that 80 or 50 or whatever percentage is not as known as the 95%. We need to stop pushing against advice given out of fear. We could cause more issues in the end. If our government had actually been looking out for us, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
willtravel
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I just asked a simple question.
Horizons '83
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I'm getting confused now 
Does it really matter which one I take when available (Pfizer vs. Moderna)?
Does it really matter which one I take when available (Pfizer vs. Moderna)?
I'm getting confused now
Does it really matter which one I take when available (Pfizer vs. Moderna)?
No!
Whatever choice you are given, be it Pfizer, Moderna or eventually JnJ - just get vaccinated.
They will all get the job done of stopping severe disease (if you get infected at all).Disney Experience
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Pfizer and Moderna are very close in many ways, so I would get whichever of those two was available.I'm getting confused now
Does it really matter which one I take when available (Pfizer vs. Moderna)?
I am in the Phase 3 Pfizer study, and my wife is in the Moderna study. The resulting efficacy after two shots of either was almost tied. Side effects similar, etc. Now duration of effectiveness is still going to be determine as participants have more time since second shot ( I am going to be five months since second shot this month).
JnJ, astrazeneca, Novavax are not as effective in studies so far. But if I could not get Moderna or Pfizer I would get them.
Sinovac is barely above FDA minimum standards (But is not being given in USA).
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Kevin_W
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Again, it depends what you define as "effective". All have been effective at preventing hospitalization and death.
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