JoeCamel
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Wow, I hope someone is dustingJust told our company isn't thinking of returning to the office until 2022. And you wonder why I'm so skeptical. So skeptical at all around this place!
Wow, I hope someone is dustingJust told our company isn't thinking of returning to the office until 2022. And you wonder why I'm so skeptical. So skeptical at all around this place!
CNN John King just reported that a over the counter test that is coming soon can detect if someone is positive or not for Covid in about 15 min. Curious if WDW would use this test to screen incoming guests.
Sometime soon I would think. Pfizer and Moderna both confirmed their delivery projections for Q1 and so we should have 220M doses by March 31. In order to reach that number they will need to ramp up to an average of close to 20M shots a week delivered. That’s more than enough to hit 2M a day or closer to 3M. That also doesn‘t count JnJ which should ramp up starting March and could be around another 10M doses a week delivered. By April 1 there‘s no reason to assume we won’t be doing over 3M shots a day.I'm curious, when does the U.S. start hitting 2 million shots a day? I'm still pretty hopeless about the rollout
Last March I left my coffee cup on my desk without cleaning it out first on the day they shut the office down. I figured I’d be back soon to take care of it. Now I’m assuming I can donate the cup to science once I go back. Who knows maybe a new antibiotic is growing in there as we speakWow, I hope someone is dusting
CNN John King just reported that a over the counter test that is coming soon can detect if someone is positive or not for Covid in about 15 min. Curious if WDW would use this test to screen incoming guests.
Likely not, as it’s a logistical nightmare to “socially distant” hold that many guests at the main entrances to the parks while they await their test results. The temp check is a quick 3 second interaction, which usually doesn’t delay entry into the park.That will probably depend on how much it costs.
That will probably depend on how much it costs.
I'm curious, when does the U.S. start hitting 2 million shots a day? I'm still pretty hopeless about the rollout
Costs are always a roadblock until an incident happens. ( ie Fatal gator attack on 2 year old guest at WDW resort ) and then money was spent to build walls, barriers, signage all over WDW.That will probably depend on how much it costs.
I wouldn't personally risk the $ for an on-site test to enter the parks at Disney. Temp check is still a risk, but what if I'm one of the false positives and symptomatic? I'd rather know before I even hop on a plane.Likely not, as it’s a logistical nightmare to “socially distant” hold that many guests at the main entrances to the parks while they await their test results. The temp check is a quick 3 second interaction, which usually doesn’t delay entry into the park.
Any idea where or how these will be purchased? like online only, or at CVS, etc.?
Logistical nightmare , wearing / enforcing masks not going to happen etc etc. We have heard it all however WDW drew up a plan and made it happen.Likely not, as it’s a logistical nightmare to “socially distant” hold that many guests at the main entrances to the parks while they await their test results. The temp check is a quick 3 second interaction, which usually doesn’t delay entry into the park.
That will probably depend on how much it costs.
Remember this graph from last March?Who wasn’t considering the economy? Why was anything reopened then? If the economy was no concern then we would have went into full lockdown until a vaccine and never opened anything to maximize public health impact. Obviously nobody did that and we all tried to reopen as much as was safe when it was safe. This whole narrative on the economy was false from day 1. People want to do what they want without restrictions which I totally get, but it has little to do with the economy or lost jobs. The best thing for unemployment would have been to reduce cases and hospitalizations similar to Australia and New Zealand. Opening everything and ignoring the virus worked for nobody.
This is the song that never ends,Remember this graph from last March?
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There was a line of thinking that once the curve was flattened (this would take a few weeks, we thought), and hospital overload was no longer a concern, then our next logical step would be: Protect the vulnerable, and get back to normal. We knew by then that the most vulnerable were those age 75+, and those with certain health conditions.
There was a lot of support for this line of thinking, but it did not win out. Governors, rather than warning the vulnerable to stay away from restaurants and shops, closed them to everyone instead.
Was this the right move? I say no. So what could have been done differently?
A concerted, world-class operation to identify & protect those at highest risk of death from covid-19 should have been the priority. Most of these would have been in nursing homes & hospitals. We could have provided them with protocols & funding to keep those residents & patients as safe as possible. All others in the high-risk category should have been warned to avoid public gatherings (a la "expecting mothers should not ride").
As you do that, keep everything open. Would there be an economic slowdown anyway? Sure, but 20 million people wouldn't have lost their jobs in a month either.
In addition, immune health 101 should have been taught to every person willing to learn. There are certain actions you can take to boost your immune system (broccoli sprouts FTW), although you'd never know it by listening to our elected officials.
Instead, we crashed the economy, sent millions into unemployment & despair, creating a ripple effect that will damage the fabric of our society for generations, and told everyone to hide under their beds until a vaccine is ready. And now that the vaccine is ready, that's still not good enough to get back to normal because it's only 95% effective.
The continuous goal post shifting tells me that we are searching for a zero-risk world, which simply does not exist.
So we should just let health care workers get burned out because the ICUs are overrun and even the funeral homes have no more room.Remember this graph from last March?
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There was a line of thinking that once the curve was flattened (this would take a few weeks, we thought), and hospital overload was no longer a concern, then our next logical step would be: Protect the vulnerable, and get back to normal. We knew by then that the most vulnerable were those age 75+, and those with certain health conditions.
There was a lot of support for this line of thinking, but it did not win out. Governors, rather than warning the vulnerable to stay away from restaurants and shops, closed them to everyone instead.
Was this the right move? I say no. So what could have been done differently?
A concerted, world-class operation to identify & protect those at highest risk of death from covid-19 should have been the priority. Most of these would have been in nursing homes & hospitals. We could have provided them with protocols & funding to keep those residents & patients as safe as possible. All others in the high-risk category should have been warned to avoid public gatherings (a la "expecting mothers should not ride").
As you do that, keep everything open. Would there be an economic slowdown anyway? Sure, but 20 million people wouldn't have lost their jobs in a month either.
In addition, immune health 101 should have been taught to every person willing to learn. There are certain actions you can take to boost your immune system (broccoli sprouts FTW), although you'd never know it by listening to our elected officials.
Instead, we crashed the economy, sent millions into unemployment & despair, creating a ripple effect that will damage the fabric of our society for generations, and told everyone to hide under their beds until a vaccine is ready. And now that the vaccine is ready, that's still not good enough to get back to normal because it's only 95% effective.
The continuous goal post shifting tells me that we are searching for a zero-risk world, which simply does not exist.
Last March I left my coffee cup on my desk without cleaning it out first on the day they shut the office down. I figured I’d be back soon to take care of it. Now I’m assuming I can donate the cup to science once I go back. Who knows maybe a new antibiotic is growing in there as we speak
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