Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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GoofGoof

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I'm curious, when does the U.S. start hitting 2 million shots a day? I'm still pretty hopeless about the rollout
Sometime soon I would think. Pfizer and Moderna both confirmed their delivery projections for Q1 and so we should have 220M doses by March 31. In order to reach that number they will need to ramp up to an average of close to 20M shots a week delivered. That’s more than enough to hit 2M a day or closer to 3M. That also doesn‘t count JnJ which should ramp up starting March and could be around another 10M doses a week delivered. By April 1 there‘s no reason to assume we won’t be doing over 3M shots a day.
 

Polkadotdress

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CNN John King just reported that a over the counter test that is coming soon can detect if someone is positive or not for Covid in about 15 min. Curious if WDW would use this test to screen incoming guests.

That will probably depend on how much it costs.
Likely not, as it’s a logistical nightmare to “socially distant” hold that many guests at the main entrances to the parks while they await their test results. The temp check is a quick 3 second interaction, which usually doesn’t delay entry into the park.
 

Patcheslee

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Likely not, as it’s a logistical nightmare to “socially distant” hold that many guests at the main entrances to the parks while they await their test results. The temp check is a quick 3 second interaction, which usually doesn’t delay entry into the park.
I wouldn't personally risk the $ for an on-site test to enter the parks at Disney. Temp check is still a risk, but what if I'm one of the false positives and symptomatic? I'd rather know before I even hop on a plane.
 

hopemax

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DH's company (cloud based, mobile IT solutions) went remote in March. Only maintaining a tiny office for the CFO and some equipment storage. The 2021 plan was to open a smaller office than pre-pandemic, with people working from home some days, and coming to the office some days. Last week, they announced they are officially a "work-from-home" company, pandemic or not.
 

DCBaker

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Any idea where or how these will be purchased? like online only, or at CVS, etc.?

When it was announced back in December that the FDA granted the emergency authorization for this test, it was reported the test would be available to purchase at pharmacies, drug stores and online sites.
 

Lilofan

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Likely not, as it’s a logistical nightmare to “socially distant” hold that many guests at the main entrances to the parks while they await their test results. The temp check is a quick 3 second interaction, which usually doesn’t delay entry into the park.
Logistical nightmare , wearing / enforcing masks not going to happen etc etc. We have heard it all however WDW drew up a plan and made it happen.
 

DCBaker

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Numbers are out - there were 206 new reported deaths, along with 8 Non-Florida Resident deaths.

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mmascari

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That will probably depend on how much it costs.




"$30"
"available over the counter in pharmacies, drug stores and online"
"95 percent accuracy within 15 minutes"
"ship 100,000 test kits per month to the U.S. from February through July"
"$230 million deal"
"Thanks to this contract, they’ll be able to scale the production to manufacture over 19 million test kits per month by the end of this year, 8.5 million of which are guaranteed to the U.S. government."
"appropriate for people ages 2 and older,"
"They can be used if you feel symptoms of Covid-19 and also for screening for people without symptoms, so they can safely go to work, to school and to events."

Those are the bullet points. At that cost, it's to expensive to just do one every day. Plus there wouldn't be supply, at least for a long time. Hopefully as they ramp up scale, the unit cost will go down. Still, it'll be something that could be done every week. In a K-6 school, first grade on Monday, second Tuesday, ..., fifth and sixth on Friday. That kind of surveillance testing should give an early warning before an outbreak get's huge.

I don't think it's likely for every guest at the front gate. There probably isn't $30 of profit in every ticket that they're willing to just give up. But, test every park employee every week is certainly possible. They could test every resort guest on check in. It's not full proof, but some early surveillance testing to even catch a few.
 

Bill in Atlanta

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Who wasn’t considering the economy? Why was anything reopened then? If the economy was no concern then we would have went into full lockdown until a vaccine and never opened anything to maximize public health impact. Obviously nobody did that and we all tried to reopen as much as was safe when it was safe. This whole narrative on the economy was false from day 1. People want to do what they want without restrictions which I totally get, but it has little to do with the economy or lost jobs. The best thing for unemployment would have been to reduce cases and hospitalizations similar to Australia and New Zealand. Opening everything and ignoring the virus worked for nobody.
Remember this graph from last March?
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There was a line of thinking that once the curve was flattened (this would take a few weeks, we thought), and hospital overload was no longer a concern, then our next logical step would be: Protect the vulnerable, and get back to normal. We knew by then that the most vulnerable were those age 75+, and those with certain health conditions.

There was a lot of support for this line of thinking, but it did not win out. Governors, rather than warning the vulnerable to stay away from restaurants and shops, closed them to everyone instead.

Was this the right move? I say no. So what could have been done differently?

A concerted, world-class operation to identify & protect those at highest risk of death from covid-19 should have been the priority. Most of these would have been in nursing homes & hospitals. We could have provided them with protocols & funding to keep those residents & patients as safe as possible. All others in the high-risk category should have been warned to avoid public gatherings (a la "expecting mothers should not ride").

As you do that, keep everything open. Would there be an economic slowdown anyway? Sure, but 20 million people wouldn't have lost their jobs in a month either.

In addition, immune health 101 should have been taught to every person willing to learn. There are certain actions you can take to boost your immune system (broccoli sprouts FTW), although you'd never know it by listening to our elected officials.

Instead, we crashed the economy, sent millions into unemployment & despair, creating a ripple effect that will damage the fabric of our society for generations, and told everyone to hide under their beds until a vaccine is ready. And now that the vaccine is ready, that's still not good enough to get back to normal because it's only 95% effective.🤦‍♂️

The continuous goal post shifting tells me that we are searching for a zero-risk world, which simply does not exist.
 

Touchdown

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Remember this graph from last March?
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There was a line of thinking that once the curve was flattened (this would take a few weeks, we thought), and hospital overload was no longer a concern, then our next logical step would be: Protect the vulnerable, and get back to normal. We knew by then that the most vulnerable were those age 75+, and those with certain health conditions.

There was a lot of support for this line of thinking, but it did not win out. Governors, rather than warning the vulnerable to stay away from restaurants and shops, closed them to everyone instead.

Was this the right move? I say no. So what could have been done differently?

A concerted, world-class operation to identify & protect those at highest risk of death from covid-19 should have been the priority. Most of these would have been in nursing homes & hospitals. We could have provided them with protocols & funding to keep those residents & patients as safe as possible. All others in the high-risk category should have been warned to avoid public gatherings (a la "expecting mothers should not ride").

As you do that, keep everything open. Would there be an economic slowdown anyway? Sure, but 20 million people wouldn't have lost their jobs in a month either.

In addition, immune health 101 should have been taught to every person willing to learn. There are certain actions you can take to boost your immune system (broccoli sprouts FTW), although you'd never know it by listening to our elected officials.

Instead, we crashed the economy, sent millions into unemployment & despair, creating a ripple effect that will damage the fabric of our society for generations, and told everyone to hide under their beds until a vaccine is ready. And now that the vaccine is ready, that's still not good enough to get back to normal because it's only 95% effective.🤦‍♂️

The continuous goal post shifting tells me that we are searching for a zero-risk world, which simply does not exist.
This is the song that never ends,
Yes it goes on and on my friends!
Some people started singing it,
Not knowing what it was!
But they’ll be singing it forever just because,
This is the song that never ends,
Yes it goes on and on my friends!
Some people started singing it,
Not knowing what it was!
But they’ll be singing it forever just because...
 

correcaminos

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Remember this graph from last March?
View attachment 528624
There was a line of thinking that once the curve was flattened (this would take a few weeks, we thought), and hospital overload was no longer a concern, then our next logical step would be: Protect the vulnerable, and get back to normal. We knew by then that the most vulnerable were those age 75+, and those with certain health conditions.

There was a lot of support for this line of thinking, but it did not win out. Governors, rather than warning the vulnerable to stay away from restaurants and shops, closed them to everyone instead.

Was this the right move? I say no. So what could have been done differently?

A concerted, world-class operation to identify & protect those at highest risk of death from covid-19 should have been the priority. Most of these would have been in nursing homes & hospitals. We could have provided them with protocols & funding to keep those residents & patients as safe as possible. All others in the high-risk category should have been warned to avoid public gatherings (a la "expecting mothers should not ride").

As you do that, keep everything open. Would there be an economic slowdown anyway? Sure, but 20 million people wouldn't have lost their jobs in a month either.

In addition, immune health 101 should have been taught to every person willing to learn. There are certain actions you can take to boost your immune system (broccoli sprouts FTW), although you'd never know it by listening to our elected officials.

Instead, we crashed the economy, sent millions into unemployment & despair, creating a ripple effect that will damage the fabric of our society for generations, and told everyone to hide under their beds until a vaccine is ready. And now that the vaccine is ready, that's still not good enough to get back to normal because it's only 95% effective.🤦‍♂️

The continuous goal post shifting tells me that we are searching for a zero-risk world, which simply does not exist.
So we should just let health care workers get burned out because the ICUs are overrun and even the funeral homes have no more room.

Or you can realize what they thought based on good science wasn't enough and we need to do more. Info changes and I suggest you change with it too.

Once people are vaccinated I suspect we will get back to normal.
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
Last March I left my coffee cup on my desk without cleaning it out first on the day they shut the office down. I figured I’d be back soon to take care of it. Now I’m assuming I can donate the cup to science once I go back. Who knows maybe a new antibiotic is growing in there as we speak ;)

Or maybe the newly spawned life form is trying to figure out your equipment.
 
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