Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Lilofan]

How many of your coworkers still show up to your office sick? Yea you may not touch anything and wash your hands but doesn't mean you won't catch it. Now you caught it, you spread to your spouse and kids who will see their teachers etc. Now one of their teachers are immunocompromised. One down. Another is elderly. Two down.

Everyone is so focused on the first order, they are totally ignoring second or third order effects of what this could do.

What's scary is I worked in restaurants while going to school. The staff at times come to work sick and what goes on in a kitchen would make one think twice about eating out.

 

[RustySpork]

Actually was in a debate with someone about this. If you walk into a Disney restroom that does not have a door, walk up to a self flushing urinal or toilet. Only touch yourself while in there, and walk out... You may carry something out to others but are unlikely to catch anything from someone else while in there. Of course this would only apply to males who do not need to touch the seat or anything else to urinate..
Seems the guy I was speaking with has a valid argument for his own safety but not so great for others..

Funny thing about urinals, unless you're the only one using it someone else's germs may jump out while things are flowing.

 

[Lilofan]

The real answer is most, because American work culture demands it.

American live to work not work to live. Now the work culture expects you to check and respond to email/text 24/7 at times.

 

[Rescue Ranger]

We are all booked at Polynesian in DVC end of April into May for 2 weeks. NOTHING will stop me from going on this dream vacation. I don't care if I have to wear a body suit!!!!

I'll be crushed if they close it all down

The other parks worldwide I can more easily see this happening but WDW truly is a world in itself!! To close it all down would be an astronomical undertaking and hit.

2020 has been a horrific year globally. It's been one thing after another. It's unbelievable.

 

[RustySpork]

American live to work not work to live. Now the work culture expects you to check and respond to email/text 24/7 at times.

Only when an employee or their peers enable the behavior. People that let management walk all over them are responsible for their own destinies.

There's obviously a necessity if you're in an operational role and it's required for KTBR, but you are also paid a premium for that position. If you're not, that's a negotiation failure on your part both in work life balance and salary.

Some people will certainly laugh and "not where I work", but again, that's on them for enabling it.

 

[Phil12]

 

[larryz]

Seeing people here sperg out about it and blow it way out of proportion makes me feel sane and cozy.

We've got nothing on New Yawkers...

 

[RustySpork]

We've got nothing on New Yawkers...
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Looks like any other city before a storm.

 

[larryz]

Explain that statement

Maybe he thinks she's a hot blonde?

 

[Lilofan]

We've got nothing on New Yawkers...
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If you can make it NYC, you can make it anywhere.

 

[larryz]

Let's be honest here, these people should just be shot into space.

On the ship with the telephone sanitizers?

 

[UNCgolf]

Only when an employee or their peers enable the behavior. People that let management walk all over them are responsible for their own destinies.

There's obviously a necessity if you're in an operational role and it's required for KTBR, but you are also paid a premium for that position. If you're not, that's a negotiation failure on your part both in work life balance and salary.

Some people will certainly laugh and "not where I work", but again, that's on them for enabling it.

Regardless of this, it's still a fact that in general, American work culture expects far more from employees than most other Western countries. Less vacation, expectations to answer emails after work hours, etc. at least in any type of white collar corporate position. Blue collar positions have their own separate issues.

 

[RustySpork]

Why would you want to give them a free trip to space.
Billionaires are paying good money to take a space tour up there.

Who said we didn't bill them for the trip?

 

[larryz]

Regardless of this, it's still a fact that in general, American work culture expects far more from employees than most other Western countries. Less vacation, expectations to answer emails after work hours, etc. at least in any type of white collar corporate position. Blue collar positions have their own separate issues.

If you're uncomfortable with your company's stance on sick days, either (a) start your own company, or (b) find a job that offers nearly unlimited sick days that accrue and never expire.

 

[UNCgolf]

If you're uncomfortable with your company's stance on sick days, either (a) start your own company, or (b) find a job that offers nearly unlimited sick days that accrue and never expire.

I thought it was obvious that that post wasn't talking about sick days. European employees typically have it much better than American employees in almost every way.

I actually don't have to worry about sick days (to an extent) as an attorney at a large firm. As long as I make my billable hours it doesn't really matter how many days I'm in the office.

 

[RustySpork]

Regardless of this, it's still a fact that in general, American work culture expects far more from employees than most other Western countries. Less vacation, expectations to answer emails after work hours, etc.

No doubt there are some expectations there beyond what other western countries demand, but it's not a dire situation that means people can not ever take time off when they're sick. From a risk perspective, you would have to be a complete idiot as a manager to expect a sick employee to report to work.

 

[RustySpork]

If you're uncomfortable with your company's stance on sick days, either (a) start your own company, or (b) find a job that offers nearly unlimited sick days that accrue and never expire.

They don't even need to be unlimited, just negotiate enough to cover your expectations.

 

[UNCgolf]

No doubt there are some expectations there beyond what other western countries demand, but it's not a dire situation that means people can not ever take time off when they're sick. From a risk perspective, you would have to be a complete idiot as a manager to expect a sick employee to report to work.

I agree, but there seem to be quite a lot of moronic managers out there -- especially in retail positions, which is the last place people should be coming to work sick.

 

[larryz]

I thought it was obvious that that post wasn't talking about sick days. European employees typically have it much better than American employees in almost every way.

I actually don't have to worry about sick days (to an extent) as an attorney at a large firm. As long as I make my billable hours it doesn't really matter how many days I'm in the office.

Well, sick days is just one aspect of American work culture that many people deplore, so thanks for being a foil for my point even if you don't feel it was particularly applicable.

 

[SplashJacket]

For those of you who want an analysis of COVID-19 from a scientific/medical perspective here's one.