Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You are partially right. They are hoping to use education over fining people. But they have resorted to fining people already. Halloween weekend they fined 3 home owners for having parties. Each were fined $2300. 2 of the parties only had 20 to 25 people at them. Fining people has worked as it has made most people listen.

Interesting...

...damn Halloween shenanigans

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Let’s all remember, we are playing Russian roulette with a gun that will not fire 99.8 percent of the time even when the live chamber is lines up with the barrel....

What on earth are you talking about?

 

[Kevin_W]

Yeah, me and my wife normally host Thanksgiving, but this year we are doing dinner on our own and will probably just stop by relatives to drop off deserts and maybe hang out outside for a bit.

We normally get together with 25-30 of my wife's extended family for Thanksgiving. This year, we're staying home and hoping the weather is nice enough that her parents can come up and share a meal with us outdoors.

 

[MrMcDuck]

But “you do you”

That’s the idea. And I’m pleased with my choices. But thanks for the thought.

And now back to masks.

 

[Chi84]

You are partially right. They are hoping to use education over fining people. But they have resorted to fining people already. Halloween weekend they fined 3 home owners for having parties. Each were fined $2300. 2 of the parties only had 20 to 25 people at them. Fining people has worked as it has made most people listen.

That happened in Chicago too, but I think the house party involved something like 100 people. That type of thing is easy to find - having Thanksgiving dinner with one’s family would not be so detectable.

 

[dreday3]

The pro-Biden fools going out to celebrate in large crowds during this pandemic shows what many of them are really like. Lots of hypocrisy to go around.

[And yes, I voted for Trump, as a protest vote against the system since I appreciate how he’s a disruptive force (as ignorant and self-absorbed of one as he is). I don’t vote for neoliberals or neoconservatives, no matter how “smart” some people think they are. But the old crowd predictably has regained its full power, the war machine continues on, and the USA continues its rightful decline. Happy holidays.]

I'm sorry, i stopped pretending to pay attention after "I voted for Trump".

 

[MrMcDuck]

I'm sorry, I stopped listening after "I voted for Trump".

Someone is like farming... But jokes aside, that’s about the extent of the response I expected from you.

 

[GoofGoof]

Cases are going up pretty similarly everywhere in you country, it seems, so I don't feel more in danger going out-of-state than I do at home. And getting there doesn't seem bad (data on air travel is pretty good.)

I agree that indoor dining is probably the riskiest thing at WDW. We ahd a couple meals there last month inside and they were doing far more than local restaurants I've seen around here (or in Wyoming/Idaho, where they pretended the virus didn't exist). At WDW, we couldn't have been closer than 20' to any other table, they thoroughly cleaned everything, and the servers wore both masks and face shields. So while it might still have been the riskiest, they were taking every precaution they could. (And I'd forgotten how wonderful it is to give someone money and in exchange they both bring me food and clean up the dishes afterwards!)

It’s not just traveling into or out of a hot spot, it’s staying more local to have less exposure overall. For example, if you live in Orlando you can visit WDW for a day, arrive at noon, stay until 7PM and maybe eat a quick service meal outdoors and have a few drinks. If I go to WDW from PA I’m likely to stay multiple days and even with a DVC villa I’m still eating 2 out of 3 meals a day in a restaurant plus staying in a hotel over night (pool, lobby, buses, etc) plus the time at the airport and on the plane itself including the shuttle to/from the off airport parking lot. Lots more potential exposure for me. Staying closer to home allows people to have less overall exposure to strangers. While cases are spiking it makes more sense to me to avoid unnecessary extended travel. I acknowledge it’s tough to know when cases will spike. That’s what makes WDW travel so tough.

 

[Jrb1979]

That happened in Chicago too, but I think the house party involved something like 100 people. That type of thing is easy to find - having Thanksgiving dinner with one’s family would not be so detectable.

Our Thanksgiving was in October so there shouldn't be an issue with families having big get togethers. They haven't really been going after people doing that. The ones who have big family gatherings are the ones they will go after.

 

[MrMcDuck]

Let’s all remember, we are playing Russian roulette with a gun that will not fire 99.8 percent of the time even when the live chamber is lines up with the barrel....

This is one of the worst COVID-related analogies I’ve seen.

 

[dreday3]

Someone is like farming... But jokes aside, that’s about the extent of the response I expected from you.

Obviously you are too smart for me because I haven't a clue what your first sentence means.
Or not.

 

[GoofGoof]

Let’s all remember, we are playing Russian roulette with a gun that will not fire 99.8 percent of the time even when the live chamber is lines up with the barrel....

Not sure how you get to that percentage. We would have to see how many people took part in an activity that’s risky and then see how many got infected. You can’t just take total infections as a percentage of all people. Remember half the country is just hiding in their basements. I suspect the percent of people not following recommendations who are getting infected or spreading the virus is far greater. Just like the CDC study that showed you are twice as likely to be infected if you regularly eat indoor at a restaurant.

Math exercise aside, would you really play Russian roulette even if the gun had a hundred chambers? Or even a thousand? All it takes is being that one unlucky person.

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

would you really play Russian roulette even if the gun had a hundred chambers?

Don't think I would have the strength to hold a gun that size, so

 

[Archie123]

The pro-Biden fools going out to celebrate in large crowds during this pandemic shows what many of them are really like. Lots of hypocrisy to go around.

[And yes, I voted for Trump, as a protest vote against the system since I appreciate how he’s a disruptive force (as ignorant and self-absorbed of one as he is). I don’t vote for neoliberals or neoconservatives, no matter how “smart” some people think they are. But the old crowd predictably has regained its full power, the war machine continues on, and the USA continues its rightful decline. Happy holidays.]

A disruptive force lol.

 

[_caleb]

So while it might still have been the riskiest, they were taking every precaution they could.

Well, not every precaution. They could close the dining room. And you weren’t taking every precaution you could, because you went to Disney World during a pandemic and ate in a indoor restaurant.

 

[MrMcDuck]

Obviously you are too smart for me because I haven't a clue what your first sentence means.
Or not.

I liked the emoticon you had before the edit better.

First part was a joke as I said. I was suggesting your response would be popular here and receive a lot of likes. I worded it as “like farming” (farming for likes) to suggest you were intentionally doing so, but I wasn’t actually being serious, which is why I wanted to make it clear I was just playfully teasing about the comment.

But jokes that have to be explained are failed jokes. I obviously have a lot of work to do before starting a stand up career.

Best wishes.

 

[Chi84]

Cases are going up pretty similarly everywhere in you country, it seems, so I don't feel more in danger going out-of-state than I do at home. And getting there doesn't seem bad (data on air travel is pretty good.)

I agree that indoor dining is probably the riskiest thing at WDW. We ahd a couple meals there last month inside and they were doing far more than local restaurants I've seen around here (or in Wyoming/Idaho, where they pretended the virus didn't exist). At WDW, we couldn't have been closer than 20' to any other table, they thoroughly cleaned everything, and the servers wore both masks and face shields. So while it might still have been the riskiest, they were taking every precaution they could. (And I'd forgotten how wonderful it is to give someone money and in exchange they both bring me food and clean up the dishes afterwards!)

I’m glad they’re doing everything they can to keep people safe! Disney generally does things better than its competition, so I’m not surprised that extended to their COVID precautions.

We’ve dined out twice since February - when this is over I’m going to put some extra effort into supporting local restaurants

 

[DCBaker]

"Pfizer and partner BioNTech said Monday that their vaccine against Covid-19 was strongly effective, exceeding expectations with results that are likely to be met with cautious excitement — and relief — in the face of the global pandemic.

The vaccine is the first to be tested in the United States to generate late-stage data. The companies said an early analysis of the results showed that individuals who received two injections of the vaccine three weeks apart experienced more than 90% fewer cases of symptomatic Covid-19 than those who received a placebo. For months, researchers have cautioned that a vaccine that might only be 60% or 70% effective.

The Phase 3 study is ongoing and additional data could affect results.

In keeping with guidance from the Food and Drug Administration, the companies will not file for an emergency use authorization to distribute the vaccine until they reach another milestone: when half of the patients in their study have been observed for any safety issues for at least two months following their second dose. Pfizer expects to cross that threshold in the third week of November."

Covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech is strongly effective, early data from large trial indicate

Pfizer and partner BioNTech said Monday that their vaccine against Covid-19 was strongly effective, exceeding expectations with results that are likely to be met with cautious excitement — and relief.

www.statnews.com

 

[Kevin_W]

"Pfizer and partner BioNTech said Monday that their vaccine against Covid-19 was strongly effective, exceeding expectations with results that are likely to be met with cautious excitement — and relief — in the face of the global pandemic.

The vaccine is the first to be tested in the United States to generate late-stage data. The companies said an early analysis of the results showed that individuals who received two injections of the vaccine three weeks apart experienced more than 90% fewer cases of symptomatic Covid-19 than those who received a placebo. For months, researchers have cautioned that a vaccine that might only be 60% or 70% effective.

The Phase 3 study is ongoing and additional data could affect results.

In keeping with guidance from the Food and Drug Administration, the companies will not file for an emergency use authorization to distribute the vaccine until they reach another milestone: when half of the patients in their study have been observed for any safety issues for at least two months following their second dose. Pfizer expects to cross that threshold in the third week of November."

Covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech is strongly effective, early data from large trial indicate

Pfizer and partner BioNTech said Monday that their vaccine against Covid-19 was strongly effective, exceeding expectations with results that are likely to be met with cautious excitement — and relief.

www.statnews.com

Thanks, DC, I was just coming to post that link. Really good news that it seems to work. they expect to produce 50 million doses in 2020 and up to 1.3 billion in 2021. Let's hope the side effects are minimal and the rollout goes smoothly.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Cases are going up pretty similarly everywhere in you country, it seems, so I don't feel more in danger going out-of-state than I do at home. And getting there doesn't seem bad (data on air travel is pretty good.)

I agree that indoor dining is probably the riskiest thing at WDW. We ahd a couple meals there last month inside and they were doing far more than local restaurants I've seen around here (or in Wyoming/Idaho, where they pretended the virus didn't exist). At WDW, we couldn't have been closer than 20' to any other table, they thoroughly cleaned everything, and the servers wore both masks and face shields. So while it might still have been the riskiest, they were taking every precaution they could. (And I'd forgotten how wonderful it is to give someone money and in exchange they both bring me food and clean up the dishes afterwards!)

Wait a second...I might be delirious (quite possible...the Steelers ALMOST lost that game yesterday and I might have a small brain bleed now...)...

But are you trying to say “well...virus everywhere...might as well go to Disney where it’s safe!”

I HAVE to be misinterpreting that, right?