Sirwalterraleigh
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What on earth are you talking about?Let’s all remember, we are playing Russian roulette with a gun that will not fire 99.8 percent of the time even when the live chamber is lines up with the barrel....
What on earth are you talking about?Let’s all remember, we are playing Russian roulette with a gun that will not fire 99.8 percent of the time even when the live chamber is lines up with the barrel....
Yeah, me and my wife normally host Thanksgiving, but this year we are doing dinner on our own and will probably just stop by relatives to drop off deserts and maybe hang out outside for a bit.
That’s the idea. And I’m pleased with my choices. But thanks for the thought.But “you do you”
That happened in Chicago too, but I think the house party involved something like 100 people. That type of thing is easy to find - having Thanksgiving dinner with one’s family would not be so detectable.You are partially right. They are hoping to use education over fining people. But they have resorted to fining people already. Halloween weekend they fined 3 home owners for having parties. Each were fined $2300. 2 of the parties only had 20 to 25 people at them. Fining people has worked as it has made most people listen.
The pro-Biden fools going out to celebrate in large crowds during this pandemic shows what many of them are really like. Lots of hypocrisy to go around.
[And yes, I voted for Trump, as a protest vote against the system since I appreciate how he’s a disruptive force (as ignorant and self-absorbed of one as he is). I don’t vote for neoliberals or neoconservatives, no matter how “smart” some people think they are. But the old crowd predictably has regained its full power, the war machine continues on, and the USA continues its rightful decline. Happy holidays.]
I'm sorry, I stopped listening after "I voted for Trump".
It’s not just traveling into or out of a hot spot, it’s staying more local to have less exposure overall. For example, if you live in Orlando you can visit WDW for a day, arrive at noon, stay until 7PM and maybe eat a quick service meal outdoors and have a few drinks. If I go to WDW from PA I’m likely to stay multiple days and even with a DVC villa I’m still eating 2 out of 3 meals a day in a restaurant plus staying in a hotel over night (pool, lobby, buses, etc) plus the time at the airport and on the plane itself including the shuttle to/from the off airport parking lot. Lots more potential exposure for me. Staying closer to home allows people to have less overall exposure to strangers. While cases are spiking it makes more sense to me to avoid unnecessary extended travel. I acknowledge it’s tough to know when cases will spike. That’s what makes WDW travel so tough.Cases are going up pretty similarly everywhere in you country, it seems, so I don't feel more in danger going out-of-state than I do at home. And getting there doesn't seem bad (data on air travel is pretty good.)
I agree that indoor dining is probably the riskiest thing at WDW. We ahd a couple meals there last month inside and they were doing far more than local restaurants I've seen around here (or in Wyoming/Idaho, where they pretended the virus didn't exist). At WDW, we couldn't have been closer than 20' to any other table, they thoroughly cleaned everything, and the servers wore both masks and face shields. So while it might still have been the riskiest, they were taking every precaution they could. (And I'd forgotten how wonderful it is to give someone money and in exchange they both bring me food and clean up the dishes afterwards!)
Our Thanksgiving was in October so there shouldn't be an issue with families having big get togethers. They haven't really been going after people doing that. The ones who have big family gatherings are the ones they will go after.That happened in Chicago too, but I think the house party involved something like 100 people. That type of thing is easy to find - having Thanksgiving dinner with one’s family would not be so detectable.
Let’s all remember, we are playing Russian roulette with a gun that will not fire 99.8 percent of the time even when the live chamber is lines up with the barrel....
Someone is like farming... But jokes aside, that’s about the extent of the response I expected from you.
Not sure how you get to that percentage. We would have to see how many people took part in an activity that’s risky and then see how many got infected. You can’t just take total infections as a percentage of all people. Remember half the country is just hiding in their basementsLet’s all remember, we are playing Russian roulette with a gun that will not fire 99.8 percent of the time even when the live chamber is lines up with the barrel....
Don't think I would have the strength to hold a gun that size, sowould you really play Russian roulette even if the gun had a hundred chambers?
The pro-Biden fools going out to celebrate in large crowds during this pandemic shows what many of them are really like. Lots of hypocrisy to go around.
[And yes, I voted for Trump, as a protest vote against the system since I appreciate how he’s a disruptive force (as ignorant and self-absorbed of one as he is). I don’t vote for neoliberals or neoconservatives, no matter how “smart” some people think they are. But the old crowd predictably has regained its full power, the war machine continues on, and the USA continues its rightful decline. Happy holidays.]
Well, not every precaution. They could close the dining room. And you weren’t taking every precaution you could, because you went to Disney World during a pandemic and ate in a indoor restaurant.So while it might still have been the riskiest, they were taking every precaution they could.
Obviously you are too smart for me because I haven't a clue what your first sentence means.
Or not.
I’m glad they’re doing everything they can to keep people safe! Disney generally does things better than its competition, so I’m not surprised that extended to their COVID precautions.Cases are going up pretty similarly everywhere in you country, it seems, so I don't feel more in danger going out-of-state than I do at home. And getting there doesn't seem bad (data on air travel is pretty good.)
I agree that indoor dining is probably the riskiest thing at WDW. We ahd a couple meals there last month inside and they were doing far more than local restaurants I've seen around here (or in Wyoming/Idaho, where they pretended the virus didn't exist). At WDW, we couldn't have been closer than 20' to any other table, they thoroughly cleaned everything, and the servers wore both masks and face shields. So while it might still have been the riskiest, they were taking every precaution they could. (And I'd forgotten how wonderful it is to give someone money and in exchange they both bring me food and clean up the dishes afterwards!)
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Wait a second...I might be delirious (quite possible...the Steelers ALMOST lost that game yesterday and I might have a small brain bleed now...)...Cases are going up pretty similarly everywhere in you country, it seems, so I don't feel more in danger going out-of-state than I do at home. And getting there doesn't seem bad (data on air travel is pretty good.)
I agree that indoor dining is probably the riskiest thing at WDW. We ahd a couple meals there last month inside and they were doing far more than local restaurants I've seen around here (or in Wyoming/Idaho, where they pretended the virus didn't exist). At WDW, we couldn't have been closer than 20' to any other table, they thoroughly cleaned everything, and the servers wore both masks and face shields. So while it might still have been the riskiest, they were taking every precaution they could. (And I'd forgotten how wonderful it is to give someone money and in exchange they both bring me food and clean up the dishes afterwards!)
Like I said, I think we agree that it’s not wise for Disney to expand capacity.
But I’m done with “it’s up to individuals and States.“ That approach and mentality is putting us all at risk. And I’m not willing to let Disney off the hook simply because they put stickers on the ground and plastic dividers on rides. By opening, they are enabling the sort of “individual choice” that is killing people. They’re showing that they will gladly take irresponsible guests’ money even if it puts at-risk people (CMs and even people who don’t go to the parks) at even greater risk.
Indoor dining might be the highest-risk activity at Disney parks, but we don’t know what the risks are of all the activities in the parks. The recommendations for measures to keep us safe as we do essential things (like grocery shopping or essential work) were not designed for leisure activities like riding rides and eating at restaurants and watching cavalcades.
I think is up to Disney to stay open or close, not the state.
You have “experts” that advise the state and you have other “experts” that advise Disney, so it’s expert VS. expert, and while I can’t speak for motivation of the state’s experts, I think we can assume Disney is making the best decision for its most important entity, the shareholder.
We can’t assume Disney would say “stay open at all costs”, because after consulting their experts, it may be in the best interest of the shareholder to close.
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