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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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jensenrick
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The EPCOT pavilion....not the actual country
I can think of several amusing replies, that would just get shuttled off to "politics" so I'll just amuse myself.
Figgy1
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I'm crushed and worried. SRT was a favorite light nosh sans kids place for us, TC was a must do every trip
jensenrick
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Yes, some of my fave pictures I've ever done were while having hummus and pickles at SRT. (sob!)
Chip Chipperson
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By your math, that leaves around 66 million unmasked people. More than enough to account for the number of positive cases.
oceanbreeze77
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not a good place for a monday. Scared for thurs/friday numbers
Sirwalterraleigh
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There’s an absolute wealth of information including a trip planning forum but perhaps this is the wrong thread to get it. What would you like to know about WDW?
As someone who lives in Wisconsin,,,,I can tell you we may have a mask mandate but not everyone is following it...there are counties who state they would refuse to enforce it....I myself have entered many a business only to turn around and walk out cause many people were not wearing masks.
JoeCamel
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First Morocco next WAKANDA!
GimpYancIent
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Disstevefan1
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Contract tracing is a such a wonderful concept... and as for rules at work, there are rules at work I follow every moment of every day because I love my job and want to keep my job, it’s just what you do.
lazyboy97o
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It is not a concept. But its good to know you think something that was done over 100 years ago is somehow impossible.
GoofGoof
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Contact tracing has been used effectively for years to contain outbreaks of infectious diseases. Somehow this time around it got politicized and there’s a resistance to it like it’s some sort of evil plot. Just another sign of the times. Maybe we turn a corner soon...who knows.
_caleb
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Yes. It’s because people have believed disinformation and propaganda.
SamusAranX
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I agree that contract tracing has merit and good results, but I also concede that it difficult due to resources, logistics, and the nature of this virus. so it is limited in it's power.
I will give you this scenario:
Day 1: Dudley goes to Publix for a half hour, stops at Hobby Lobby and waits in line for 5 minutes, then is at home with his wife and two kids.
Day 2: Dudley eats at Cheddar's with his family, then is at home with his family.
Day 3: Dudley goes to work; he is wearing a mask but still is in close contact throughout the day with coworkers.
Day 4: Dudley goes to work, then goes to the park to play football with 3 friends.
Day 5: Dudley goes to work, and makes a Starbucks run and waits inside for 15 minutes for ten iced mocha lattes.
Day 6: Dudley feels a bit more tired then normal, but goes to work.
Day 7: Dudley goes to work, then goes home, nothing other then that.
Day 8: Dudley decides to meet up for lunch with a friend. They go to eat at Carrabba's.
Day 9: Dudley wakes up with cold like symptoms. He also notices his taste decreasing.
Day 10: Dudley goes for testing
Day 11-12: Dudley gets results 2 days later. In the meantime he stayed home. He is positive.
See the problem now? Because of how long this virus can incubate and shed asymptomatically, look at the myriads of people Dudley interacted with; even if a contact tracer contacts him, he has to remember who was at work, football, etc, then remember everywhere he was shopping; if his family is positive, the kids now need to inform the schools, the buses, and their friends, the wife has to remember her interactions. Oh, and did Starbucks, Cheddars, and Carrabba's take down their patrons info? Doubtful. And now you also have to hope you identify enough people positive to even know WHERE Dudley got it (which explains the reason why it's incredibly difficult to trace an "outbreak" to Disney World right now). Oh and then those people Dudley does remember, need to potentially get tested and remember who they were around! And now you need multiple contact tracers to have any hope of sorting this all out.
Now amplify that scenario to hundreds of thousands of people, especially the not so smart ones going to crowded bars, public protests, bike rallies, big beach parties and so on. Aye carumba! On a small scale, yes, contact tracing works. But right now with case numbers so high, it isn't gonna work.
I will give you this scenario:
Day 1: Dudley goes to Publix for a half hour, stops at Hobby Lobby and waits in line for 5 minutes, then is at home with his wife and two kids.
Day 2: Dudley eats at Cheddar's with his family, then is at home with his family.
Day 3: Dudley goes to work; he is wearing a mask but still is in close contact throughout the day with coworkers.
Day 4: Dudley goes to work, then goes to the park to play football with 3 friends.
Day 5: Dudley goes to work, and makes a Starbucks run and waits inside for 15 minutes for ten iced mocha lattes.
Day 6: Dudley feels a bit more tired then normal, but goes to work.
Day 7: Dudley goes to work, then goes home, nothing other then that.
Day 8: Dudley decides to meet up for lunch with a friend. They go to eat at Carrabba's.
Day 9: Dudley wakes up with cold like symptoms. He also notices his taste decreasing.
Day 10: Dudley goes for testing
Day 11-12: Dudley gets results 2 days later. In the meantime he stayed home. He is positive.
See the problem now? Because of how long this virus can incubate and shed asymptomatically, look at the myriads of people Dudley interacted with; even if a contact tracer contacts him, he has to remember who was at work, football, etc, then remember everywhere he was shopping; if his family is positive, the kids now need to inform the schools, the buses, and their friends, the wife has to remember her interactions. Oh, and did Starbucks, Cheddars, and Carrabba's take down their patrons info? Doubtful. And now you also have to hope you identify enough people positive to even know WHERE Dudley got it (which explains the reason why it's incredibly difficult to trace an "outbreak" to Disney World right now). Oh and then those people Dudley does remember, need to potentially get tested and remember who they were around! And now you need multiple contact tracers to have any hope of sorting this all out.
Now amplify that scenario to hundreds of thousands of people, especially the not so smart ones going to crowded bars, public protests, bike rallies, big beach parties and so on. Aye carumba! On a small scale, yes, contact tracing works. But right now with case numbers so high, it isn't gonna work.
lazyboy97o
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This is why getting people to reduce interactions is important. Some places have required restaurants to gather contact information from diners. There could also be an app to help with places like Publix.
SamusAranX
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Very true, but Dudley had to go to work, had to go grocery shopping ,and his family had to go to school/work. Where he might have "messed up" is dining indoors and offering to make the starbucks run lol.
I tried to sign up on my Apple device to be alerted if I was near someone who tested positive; got a notification that its not available in my state.
and good luck trying to get restaurants to do that, it would be bogged down in the courts cause "muh rights!!!", at least in Florida.Regardless, unless cases were in the below 100 per day range in Florida at least, I don't see how contact tracing can work unless they hired massive amounts of people
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