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JoeCamel
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AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine study put on hold due to suspected adverse reaction in participant in the U.K.
AstraZeneca's Covid-19 vaccine study has been put on hold due to a suspected adverse reaction in participant in the U.K.
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Rut roh
AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine study put on hold due to suspected adverse reaction in participant in the U.K.
AstraZeneca's Covid-19 vaccine study has been put on hold due to a suspected adverse reaction in participant in the U.K.
Science is working, this is good. It’s not being rushed, also this is why multiple vaccines are in development.
hopemax
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Was hopping on to post, but you beat me too it. It sounds like it's a routine stoppage, and could have been predicted that there would be something that would pop up to slow down things that would disrupt the optimistic timelines some have in their heads. People should expect some speed bumps, IMO. Hopefully, it is just a non-Covid related illness, not related to the vaccine development and after the appropriate period of review, things can get restarted. But the whole world will be watching very carefully.Rut roh
AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine study put on hold due to suspected adverse reaction in participant in the U.K.
AstraZeneca's Covid-19 vaccine study has been put on hold due to a suspected adverse reaction in participant in the U.K.
"The spokesperson described the pause as “a routine action which has to happen whenever there is a potentially unexplained illness in one of the trials, while it is investigated, ensuring we maintain the integrity of the trials.” The spokesperson also said that the company is “working to expedite the review of the single event to minimize any potential impact on the trial timeline.” "
JoeCamel
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How do you pause the trial if you have already received the vaccine? Too bad for the ones that had the shot and you just stop giving them more?
GimpYancIent
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It sounds like a lets wait and see what happens to the guinea pigs that were already tested on for after effects. Then move on to a second batch of guinea pigs.
That’s why you have to volunteer to be in a trial. You are accepting that you are a guinea pig and we don’t fully know what is going to happen.
GimpYancIent
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Good question. Then there is the what happened to the deadly Zika virus? Let's face it COVID19 is going to spread through out the global community and when that is complete the community spread issue will have been addressed.
GoofGoof
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The US trial started recently so they weren’t even halfway done signing people up. A pause means nobody else gets vaccinated until they look for repeat occurrences. Remember that a trial participant is a person going about normal life so there’s no guarantee that the adverse reaction is directly related to the vaccine itself. It could be a coincidence. That’s why they pause and let the science play out.
GoofGoof
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In that case this discussion has no value to you so feel free to just ignore it and move on. I was responding to the people who care how the vaccine will eventually be rolled out.
Heppenheimer
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Zika is mosquito-borne or sexually transmitted, so not really comparable to COVID-19. And it didn't just spread througout the world then magically die out, there was a concerted global public health effort to minimize it.
Kevin_W
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Is that the case? I would assume 2 shots = 1 dose, so when they say 300 doses they mean 300 people. But I could very well be wrong.
lazyboy97o
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It says in the article that they have stopped administering trial vaccines. They're not just abandoning those who have received the vaccine, but not adding to the number of test subjects until they can review this potential adverse outcome.
What does this even mean? Is this saying eventually everyone will get it and then spread will stop because everyone has it?
If that’s what it says, that’s a horrible idea full of immense death and defeatist.
There are ways to deal with community spread that are not just infect everyone. TB is rare in the US, highly infectious, nobody in the US takes the vaccine, and yet it’s community spread is under complete control.
Indeed this is the case. Previously, they said they were still adding to their Phase 3 trial participants and that would be complete in September. So, they're not adding more participants at this time. However, they did get already a majority of the slots filled.
FeelsSoGoodToBeBad
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I seriously hope this isn't what happens. One of the major contributing factors in our decision to plan a WDW vacation was BECAUSE of limited crowds. If "record breaking pandemonium" appears to be on the horizon, we'll be cancelling our trip. And I REALLY don't wanna do that.
hopemax
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New York Times is reporting the condition is a case of transverse myelitis, which Google tells me is: inflammation of the spinal cord that can lead to muscle weakness, loss of bladder and bowel control, and paralysis. It is a side effect associated with a viral illness, and a side effect that pops up in vaccine development.
www.nytimes.com
So I'm thinking, not good news. But maybe our actual medical peeps can say more.
Drugmaker Pauses Covid-19 Vaccine Trial for Safety Review (Published 2020)
Britain is expected to limit most social gatherings to six people after a spike in cases. A political uproar quashed plans for targeted lockdowns in Israel. People caught maskless in Indonesia were told to lie in a coffin as punishment.
So I'm thinking, not good news. But maybe our actual medical peeps can say more.
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New York Times is reporting the condition is a case of transverse myelitis, which Google tells me is: inflammation of the spinal cord that can lead to muscle weakness, loss of bladder and bowel control, and paralysis. It is a side effect associated with a viral illness, and a side effect that pops up in vaccine development.
Drugmaker Pauses Covid-19 Vaccine Trial for Safety Review (Published 2020)
Britain is expected to limit most social gatherings to six people after a spike in cases. A political uproar quashed plans for targeted lockdowns in Israel. People caught maskless in Indonesia were told to lie in a coffin as punishment.
So I'm thinking, not good news. But maybe our actual medical peeps can say more.
Well, this condititon can come about from a virus (and the vaccine is a presumably 'safe' virus) or from an immune reaction to an infection (and the vaccine is a 'safe' infection). But it can also come about from a dozen other reasons and 60% of the time, its source is unknown.
Don't know how they can pin this to the vaccine. OTOH, don't know what the established criteria is for halting the vaccine: For example, how many cases of a reaction like this would indicate a link? Does it need to be more than one? Is this serious enough to stop the vaccine? These are things I don't know.
oceanbreeze77
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I KNOW I am probably in a minority when I say this...but I am hoping there will be some sort of system in place that makes it so people HAVE to get vaccinated. Kind of like the vaccine passport Fauci was talking about in the early days. I'm onboard with that idea. Or have y'all seen contagion? They used a wristband barcode. Of course people will be up in arms about it, but what's everyone been saying recently..."it is what it is..."
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