Horizons '83
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So wrong on so many levels. We did a half shut down and just when it started to work, we raced to reopen, which is why we are basically the worst in the world now.
Something tells me if some of your loved ones died from tis and you knew that better leadership could have led to better outcomes, you'd be quite upset.
Flugell
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In the quote I was answering the cases had dropped from 64 in 4 weeks down to 6 in the last week and a drop in infection from 27 to 7. So sensible or madness?
I feel very sorry for business owners who are losing money hand over fist but as you said “everyone just wants to stay home and limit everything.” Just like WDW there is little or no money to be made until it is felt to be safe by the majority and fewer cases and localised shutdowns will hopefully speed up and ensure that situation. It’s a truly dreadful scenario for everyone and we are all entitled to approach it in our own way.
Jrb1979
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I never said we've won. What did is working here and with having cases low we can do contact tracing. I do expect cases to rise with things open but if we manage it with contact tracing it shouldn't be that bad. All that's closed down now is theme parks and live sports.
October82
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Which is the point of "the lockdowns" - to get cases to a level they are manageable and will remain manageable with much of the economy opened back up.
In the US we did both a poor job of actually doing this and explaining what needed to be done.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Some places in Europe are starting to roll back openings. Some are seriously considering it. Canada is starting to talk about it as well. So, do they expect the cases to remain at a manageable level? If it was going to be manageable, should they even have to roll back anything? I guess we will find out. Maybe they are going to preemptively start to close things again so they do not go the way of the US (rather than using other tools like contact tracing). This all remains to be seen.
As you essentially alluded to, lockdowns are simply a delay mechanism to buy time.
Is there some related Bloomberg content or other supporting article with more information?
All I got from the link was:
- Sweden is looking better
- They didn't lock down.
- They're not big on masks.
- There's one line "That’s amid an increase in testing over the period."
Is it rapid or takes many days or weeks to get a test and results?
How much tracing?
Are they doing random testing to locate hot spots?
Only testing people with symptoms?
What did they actually do to bring the curve down and reduce community spread?
It's obviously not your fault that the reporter didn't include any of these things, but it's disappointing that they didn't include any details on how Sweden improved it's current position. After reading it, there's no information on how another country could get a similar result, other than just hoping for the best.
Tink242424
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You're really not correct. In late March and most if not all of April very little was open and essentially we were in a lockdown. We did not do a half shut down in most of the country.
As for loved ones dying that really is a part of life. Would I be happy, no? And I am lucky enough that none of my loved ones has died from COVID but I wouldn't blame the government for it even if they did. I had COVID at the very beginning of this - mid-March - and still have some lingering issues but I don't blame anyone for that. This is what happens in life - you need to roll with the punches.
The locking down of the country/world was prudent in the beginning as we really didn't know much about the disease. Now we know so much more, have some good idea of what treatments work, what treatments don't work. At this point we need to just be smart but even that is not a guarantee of not getting this virus.
Even countries that have had very low rates of infections have had increases in cases. So you can do everything right and still have spread. SO then the question becomes how do we move forward? We just keep moving forward and allow people to live their lives as safely as possible.
"In a long-awaited and much anticipated decision, Miami-Dade County Public Schools will start the school year remotely and at a later date of Wednesday, Aug. 31."
"Like other districts around the state, Miami-Dade decided to push back its first day of school. An orientation for students and parents will take place over the week of Aug. 24."
"The school district will decide by Sept. 30 on whether conditions allow for the school district to reopen Oct. 5."
"Like other districts around the state, Miami-Dade decided to push back its first day of school. An orientation for students and parents will take place over the week of Aug. 24."
"The school district will decide by Sept. 30 on whether conditions allow for the school district to reopen Oct. 5."
well they still have to take taxes out of that 475 if they don’t want to go at the end of the year. So soon they take out 15% in taxes on themselves. I thought the $14 was current but like you said I guess not. And maybe I’m wrong… But if they are part time do they get the full benefits? I guess if they make over the amount in a given quarter or however it works. At the end of the day it’s not a livable wage and neither is their income from Disney. That’s why you see a lot of cast members that have multiple jobs and multiple roommates.
‘Get by on’.... re-read that. Is that a way to live?
peter11435
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Even after taxes that $475 would be over $400 which is more than many Disney cast members take home. You are correct that the real issue is that both the unemployment amount and Disney wages are not liveable. And remember even full time cast members are only guaranteed 32 hours. Trust me when I tell you many full time Disney cast members are taking home less than $400 per week.
disneygeek90
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This should throw a wrench into the reporting for a couple weeks. Seems a bit knee-jerky to me.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
How many of the total sites are state supported sites?
disneygeek90
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GoofGoof
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On the bright side maybe it gives the labs a chance to get caught up on the backlog of tests out there. I imagine total cases will be down for a period of time as a result of this but it could be delayed up to a week depending how long the labs take.
chrisvee
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Isn‘t the southern state model basically the Swedish model? Open and let the virus burn through the population?
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
No. The southern states didn’t do that at all. And still aren’t.
DisneyDebRob
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Sweden didn’t either.
chrisvee
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seems like it to me
they locked down early which turned out to be before the virus established itself (like in the northeast)
then they opened too quickly without adequate contact tracing, testing, masking, etc which is causing the virus burn through the population
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