Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Heppenheimer

Heppenheimer

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Kevin_W said:
To do a quantified fit test takes a trained technician, but getting any sort of respirator to fit properly is really quite easy, from my experience. And even a poorly fitting mask (N95 or not) is going to do a decent job of stopping you from expelling aerosols as long as it covers nose/mouth.
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True, but I was responding to a poster who asked about protecting themselves. An improperly fit N95 would provide the same amount of protection for others as a surgical mask.

Last time I did a fit test they had me move around while I wore it, and it was really eye-opening how easy it is to inadvertently lose your seal.
 
Prince-1

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Hawg G said:
That was my point, DUH. Everyone flips out about Disney or Universal employees with Covid, like they seem to think no one they dealt with at big box stores the last 4 months had it.
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Guess that whole sarcasm thing gets lost when you have to type it out. 👍
 
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Touchdown

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Walmart is not a safe place to be in a pandemic, there are risks associated with going there. However people need to eat to live, Walmart is a grocery store. Since you die without food, going to Walmart with all precautions is an acceptable risk if you need food, it’s an unacceptable risk to go there to people watch.

Disney World is not a safe place to be in a pandemic (it’s safer then it was in February but still not safe, that’s why the warning is on the website,) there are risks with going there. WDW is a luxury and optional, you can live without it, therefore WDW is an unacceptable risk in this time.

It’s not hard people, Going to WDW is not analogous to going to a grocery store.
 
NickMaio

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Casper Gutman said:
Man, that Fox 35 report sure does show up a lot along with sweeping claims that it absolutely doesn’t support. Almost like people really, really want to use any small confusion in an unprecedentedly confusing crisis to dismiss the reality of a raging global pandemic the has caused unfathomable suffering. Any bets on how often the article or some version of it gets reposted here on in the reclosing thread over the next three days?

On another issue, the headline on Hollywood Reporter is about how WDW is now fully open as numbers in Florida skyrocket. They really did themselves a favor by spreading out the opening to let the PR hit fester as much as possible.

At this point, why did WDW even bother closing? They did so when the numbers in FL were massively better then they are now. They probably could have required masks, limited attendance, closed indoor restaurants, and spaced out lines overnight or, at most, with a couple days closure and been about as safe as they are now. If they’re going to ignore deteriorating conditions, they might as well just have stayed open.
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ always makes up the decisions for many men.
It's sad
 
jaklgreen

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GoofGoof said:
At this point I’m not sure why just about every state hasn’t just moved towards a mask rule. It would just make things so much easier if it was a consistent message. People just need to give in to the notion that the only way to move forward and keep as much of the economy open as possible is to follow some simple protocols including masks and social distancing. Masks have been a reality where I live for months now and I think for the most part people have just accepted the new norm. There was some apprehension at first and it was pretty uncomfortable (mentally, not just physically) but people are more adaptable than we realize. Now it’s second nature.
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I think that is a good idea for most states. There are still those few that are doing well. I am actually pretty surprised at how well my state is doing. We have had about 250 deaths total, which is less then what we see in a normal flu season. And our hospitals never go to the point of being even close to full. Masks have never been required though many would wear them. But since we opened back up a few weeks ago, many go about their day without a mask and it does not seem to have made any significant impact. We are still getting people testing positive, but few are hospitalized and those very few that die, are either older or have underlying issues. I don't know the reason why we are doing so well compared to many other states. My grandmother was just in the hospital and they never temperature tested me when I went to visit and they don't test patients for Covid unless they are showing symptoms. The only things still on lock down are the nursing homes. It's weird because it is almost like back to normal but with some people still wearing masks at the stores.
 
GoofGoof

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jaklgreen said:
I think that is a good idea for most states. There are still those few that are doing well. I am actually pretty surprised at how well my state is doing. We have had about 250 deaths total, which is less then what we see in a normal flu season. And our hospitals never go to the point of being even close to full. Masks have never been required though many would wear them. But since we opened back up a few weeks ago, many go about their day without a mask and it does not seem to have made any significant impact. We are still getting people testing positive, but few are hospitalized and those very few that die, are either older or have underlying issues. I don't know the reason why we are doing so well compared to many other states. My grandmother was just in the hospital and they never temperature tested me when I went to visit and they don't test patients for Covid unless they are showing symptoms. The only things still on lock down are the nursing homes. It's weird because it is almost like back to normal but with some people still wearing masks at the stores.
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I have a lot of friends and co-workers in TX and we talked about something similar back in April/May. They really got off rather easy at that point in time and a lot of people thought masks weren’t necessary for their area. We were talking about it in context of opening our offices back up and they felt it wasn’t right to have the same rules as the office in NJ since the situation was so different up here. Flash forward to today...they shoulda had that mask rule all along. In certain very rural places it’s possible to never need masks, but even then, it won’t kill anyone to wear one.
 
Casper Gutman

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GoofGoof said:
I have a lot of friends and co-workers in TX and we talked about something similar back in April/May. They really got off rather easy at that point in time and a lot of people thought masks weren’t necessary for their area. We were talking about it in context of opening our offices back up and they felt it wasn’t right to have the same rules as the office in NJ since the situation was so different up here. Flash forward to today...they shoulda had that mask rule all along. In certain very rural places it’s possible to never need masks, but even then, it won’t kill anyone to wear one.
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A big part of the reason we're stuck in this mess is the idea, "Well, sure, New York/DC/Miami/Houston is suffering, but it can't happen here."

Oh well. At least we don't have any huge international tourist resorts open that all but ensure people from less effected areas mingle with those from more effected areas and then carry the virus back home. That could really make things worse.

*very faintly in background* "...there's so much that we share that it's time we're aware it's a small world after..." *fades out*
 
GoofGoof

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I was just flipping around channels and guess who is on CNN.....the Chief Medical Officer of Moderna talking about the positive results from their phase 1 trial and the start of their phase 3 trial later this month. Seems they are pretty confident that the antibodies produced by the vaccine are stronger than those produced by natural infection. Side effects seem pretty mild and similar to a flu shot: pain at the injection site, flu like symptoms for a few days, etc. He got about 8 to 10 minutes of air time which is a lifetime on cable news.
 
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oceanbreeze77

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GoofGoof said:
I was just flipping around channels and guess who is on CNN.....the Chief Medical Officer of Moderna talking about the positive results from their phase 1 trial and the start of their phase 3 trial later this month. Seems they are pretty confident that the antibodies produced by the vaccine are stronger than those produced by natural infection. Side effects seem pretty mild and similar to a flu shot: pain at the injection site, flu like symptoms for a few days, etc. He got about 8 to 10 minutes of air time which is a lifetime on cable news.
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now to see how long these particular antibodies last...
 
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oceanbreeze77

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Touchdown said:
as long as the vaccine can induce them again, you can get the shot again, it’s called a booster. Tetanus needs to be given every ten years (or after 5 years if you have a deep penetrating wound)
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yes, but hopefully these antibodies last much longer than the current study of natural antibodies lasting only around 3 months
 
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