Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Heppenheimer]

This research reinforces it, but we know we need N95s. If we had launched a WWII-style, all-hands-on deck, full-production push back in March to make N95s readily available, this is over now.

Any kind of mask is great, cuts transmission to some extent, and thus helps control the virus. N95s would multiply the positive effects of masks significantly.

But in our happy reality, even hospitals can't get enough N95s...

N95 masks are also no better than surgical masks if they are not properly fitted and worn. It really isn't practical to test-fit the entire country, and if we can't even get people to wear surgical masks properly, there's no way they will do better with N95s, which are not exactly comfortable.

So, makes sense to me to reserve this scarce resource for those who have direct contact with sick patients.

 

[Casper Gutman]

N95 masks are also no better than surgical masks if they are not properly fitted and worn. It really isn't practical to test-fire the entire country, and if we can't even get people to wear surgical masks properly, there's no way they will do better with N95s, which are not exactly comfortable.

So, makes sense to me to reserve this scarce resource for those who have direct contact with sick patients.

I absolutely agree with reserving scarce resources... but resources shouldn’t be scarce!

And yes, a lot of people wouldn’t figure out how to wear them properly, but enough would to make a difference.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

N95 masks are also no better than surgical masks if they are not properly fitted and worn. It really isn't practical to test-fit the entire country, and if we can't even get people to wear surgical masks properly, there's no way they will do better with N95s, which are not exactly comfortable.

So, makes sense to me to reserve this scarce resource for those who have direct contact with sick patients.

But they actually protect the wearer of them correct? So if we had enough, we would have the choice on buying them and learning how to wear them properly... correct?

 

[Touchdown]

I absolutely agree with reserving scarce resources... but resources shouldn’t be scarce!

And yes, a lot of people wouldn’t figure out how to wear them properly, but enough would to make a difference.

Healthcare providers don’t even wear them properly a lot. If an N95 is worn properly you feel like you are breathing threw a straw, it’s not a pleasurable sensation.

 

[Heppenheimer]

But they actually protect the wearer of them correct? So if we had enough, we would have the choice on buying them and learning how to wear them properly... correct?

You would need to be test-fired to know that you are wearing it properly. This is about a 15 minute process, and needs to be performed by a trained technician using the proper equipment. It really isn't feasible for people to do this on their own.

 

[DCBaker]

"The 132nd Tournament of Roses Parade will not take place on Jan. 1, 2021, because of the coronavirus pandemic, parade officials announced Wednesday morning.

It’s the first time in 75 years that the parade has been canceled.

Parade officials initially hoped they’d be able to hold the parade safely, but after weeks of assessment, it became clear such a feat would be impossible. Instead, the Tournament of Roses is looking into options for celebrating the new year in a new way, said Tournament of Roses Chief Executive David Eads."

The 2021 Rose Parade is canceled for first time in 75 years

The 2021 Rose Parade in Pasadena is canceled because of COVID-19, but parade officials are looking to find a new way to celebrate.

t.co

 

[Jwink]

Universal is still pretending they are going to have HHN, though they haven't officially announced it yet.

What do you think the covid numbers will be when they announce the event? (Trick question, they won't.)

We all need to escape the land of make-believe.

Of course this is completely word-of-mouth rumor but I have a few friends that work there and they told me that they’ve been called twice saying they’ve been exposed to other positive Performers and they were required to quarantine. They’ve said that there are several people on Medical leave ill but that universal is keeping it quiet

 

[Jwink]

That's too bad.....sorry to hear.
Landing on def ears is not fun.

We have one representative that is listening and she’s gotten a lot of things done but she’s also very busy and obviously cannot attend to everything

 

[Andrew C]

Of course this is completely word-of-mouth rumor but I have a few friends that work there and they told me that they’ve been called twice saying they’ve been exposed to other positive Performers and they were required to quarantine. They’ve said that there are several people on Medical leave ill but that universal is keeping it quiet

Not surprising given the amount of people who work there.

 

[GoofGoof]

Of course this is completely word-of-mouth rumor but I have a few friends that work there and they told me that they’ve been called twice saying they’ve been exposed to other positive Performers and they were required to quarantine. They’ve said that there are several people on Medical leave ill but that universal is keeping it quiet

It would be almost statistically impossible for there not to be anyone working there testing positive. I assume like any retail store or public facing business they would want to keep it as quiet as possible. The last thing they want is for people to perceive there is a risk in going there. It’s good that they are letting workers know when they are exposed and they are letting them quarantine (I assume with pay).

 

[oceanbreeze77]

"The 132nd Tournament of Roses Parade will not take place on Jan. 1, 2021, because of the coronavirus pandemic, parade officials announced Wednesday morning.

It’s the first time in 75 years that the parade has been canceled.

Parade officials initially hoped they’d be able to hold the parade safely, but after weeks of assessment, it became clear such a feat would be impossible. Instead, the Tournament of Roses is looking into options for celebrating the new year in a new way, said Tournament of Roses Chief Executive David Eads."

The 2021 Rose Parade is canceled for first time in 75 years

The 2021 Rose Parade in Pasadena is canceled because of COVID-19, but parade officials are looking to find a new way to celebrate.

t.co

I'm not surprised but I'm surprised they announced it this early

 

[MisterPenguin]

I'm not surprised but I'm surprised they announced it this early

Things like this and the Mummers Parade in Philly require teams to start working now or soon in order to be ready in Dec/Jan. And it's clear they won't be able to get together to work on things for at least a few months, and even if they did, there may still be a ban on large crowds that come out to see a parade. So, they're telling their people, we're not getting together now/soon like you are expecting.

 

[Hawg G]

It would be almost statistically impossible for there not to be anyone working there testing positive. I assume like any retail store or public facing business they would want to keep it as quiet as possible. The last thing they want is for people to perceive there is a risk in going there. It’s good that they are letting workers know when they are exposed and they are letting them quarantine (I assume with pay).

Anybody have the link to the story where Walmart proved they have no employees with Covid?

 

[Kevin_W]

You would need to be test-fired to know that you are wearing it properly. This is about a 15 minute process, and needs to be performed by a trained technician using the proper equipment. It really isn't feasible for people to do this on their own.

To do a quantified fit test takes a trained technician, but getting any sort of respirator to fit properly is really quite easy, from my experience. And even a poorly fitting mask (N95 or not) is going to do a decent job of stopping you from expelling aerosols as long as it covers nose/mouth.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Things like this and the Mummers Parade in Philly require teams to start working now or soon in order to be ready in Dec/Jan. And it's clear they won't be able to get together to work on things for at least a few months, and even if they did, there may still be a ban on large crowds that come out to see a parade. So, they're telling their people, we're not getting together now/soon like you are expecting.

very true

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Anybody have the link to the story where Walmart proved they have no employees with Covid?

Did a search and this is the first thing that came up . Another winner of a guy.

Video: Shopper pulls gun on man in dispute over mask at Florida Walmart

Investigators are searching for a man who they say pulled a gun on a shopper in a Florida Walmart store.

www.google.com

not sure what Walmart you are talking about with the virus but when you do a search multiple stores come up with employees infected from Massachusetts, to New Mexico and many others.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Man, that Fox 35 report sure does show up a lot along with sweeping claims that it absolutely doesn’t support. Almost like people really, really want to use any small confusion in an unprecedentedly confusing crisis to dismiss the reality of a raging global pandemic the has caused unfathomable suffering. Any bets on how often the article or some version of it gets reposted here on in the reclosing thread over the next three days?

On another issue, the headline on Hollywood Reporter is about how WDW is now fully open as numbers in Florida skyrocket. They really did themselves a favor by spreading out the opening to let the PR hit fester as much as possible.

At this point, why did WDW even bother closing? They did so when the numbers in FL were massively better then they are now. They probably could have required masks, limited attendance, closed indoor restaurants, and spaced out lines overnight or, at most, with a couple days closure and been about as safe as they are now. If they’re going to ignore deteriorating conditions, they might as well just have stayed open.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Man, that Fox 35 report sure does show up a lot along with sweeping claims that it absolutely doesn’t support. Almost like people really, really want to use any small confusion in an unprecedentedly confusing crisis to dismiss the reality of a raging global pandemic the has caused unfathomable suffering.

On another issue, the headline on Hollywood Reporter is about how WDW is now fully open as numbers in Florida skyrocket. They really did themselves a favor by spreading out the opening to let the PR hit fester as much as possible.

At this point, why did WDW even bother closing? They did so when the numbers in FL were massively better then they are now. They probably could have required masks, limited attendance, closed indoor restaurants, and spaced out lines overnight or, at most, with a couple days closure and been about as safe as they are now. If they’re going to ignore deteriorating conditions, they might as well just have stayed open.

Well they closed to prepare the WDW parks and resorts for reopening with COVID precautions. It looks like they did lot of work for COVID. I am impressed with all they have done. With all the precautions and the extremely low crowds, right now is a great time to visit the WDW parks.

To me, when in Florida, it seems you are safer inside the gates of WDW than outside the gates of WDW while in Florida.

 

[Prince-1]

Anybody have the link to the story where Walmart proved they have no employees with Covid?

Hate to break it to you but many Walmart employees have contracted CV. Here is just one article showing two employees who had it and unfortunately died from it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/06/supermarket-workers-deaths-coronavirus-/

And just for funs here are a few more:

Walmart employee in Owosso gets coronavirus, possibly exposing customers

The Shiawassee County Health Department is advising anyone at the store on M-21 from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. July 6 and 8 to monitor themselves for coronavirus symptoms over the next two weeks.

www.abc12.com

https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/400-las-cruces-walmart-employees-now-being-tested-for-covid-19

 

[Hawg G]

Hate to break it to you but many Walmart employees have contracted CV. Here is just one article showing two employees who had it and unfortunately died from it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/06/supermarket-workers-deaths-coronavirus-/

And just for funs here are a few more:

Walmart employee in Owosso gets coronavirus, possibly exposing customers

The Shiawassee County Health Department is advising anyone at the store on M-21 from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. July 6 and 8 to monitor themselves for coronavirus symptoms over the next two weeks.

www.abc12.com

https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/400-las-cruces-walmart-employees-now-being-tested-for-covid-19

That was my point, DUH. Everyone flips out about Disney or Universal employees with Covid, like they seem to think no one they dealt with at big box stores the last 4 months had it.