Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[networkpro]

Stop posting conspiracy theories and misinformation. It muddies the waters.

It’s not a coordinated effort. Health officials shouldn’t have any political reason to do anything. They should just be reporting what’s happening. They are now going back and reclassifying deaths as Covid. That’s not a conspiracy. It’s not a coordinated effort. It’s just what’s happening.

Not a political reason, but an economic one since there is Federal funding for COVID-19 associated care.

Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators

Hospitals are paid more for Medicare patients with COVID-19, but a senator who first said that says he doesn't think the system is being gamed.

www.usatoday.com

 

[kong1802]

Not a political reason, but an economic one since there is Federal funding for COVID-19 associated care.

Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators

Hospitals are paid more for Medicare patients with COVID-19, but a senator who first said that says he doesn't think the system is being gamed.

www.usatoday.com

I wonder if they are also classifying everyone as having medicare?

Will need a graph.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Not a political reason, but an economic one since there is Federal funding for COVID-19 associated care.

Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators

Hospitals are paid more for Medicare patients with COVID-19, but a senator who first said that says he doesn't think the system is being gamed.

www.usatoday.com

Falsifying covid diagnoses for monetary gain would be a conspiracy theory, yes. And a really charming one to level at healthcare providers during a pandemic.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Not a political reason, but an economic one since there is Federal funding for COVID-19 associated care.

Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators

Hospitals are paid more for Medicare patients with COVID-19, but a senator who first said that says he doesn't think the system is being gamed.

www.usatoday.com

Just because it's "TRUE" that hospitals get more insurance reimbursement for COVID cases doesn't mean that they're lying about COVID cases for that sweet extra 12% per fake COVID patient.

For this to be a reason for increased reported numbers of hospitalizations then several other things have to happen:

1. There would have to be a widespread conspiracy for lots and lots and lots of hospitals to be doing it to move the needle on total number of cases.​

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2. So, doctors... a metric tonne of them... would have to lying. But the article says that the guy bringing this up says it's not the doctors. It's the administrators!!! DUHN-Duhn-duhnnnn... Wouldn't want to insult good doctors. It's the evil administrators. And the doctors... don't notice? Don't have to sign off on the reports? Are all these morally good doctors just really dumb?​

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3. States would have to be extraordinarily dumb, too.... all of them. And there's a whole lot of states that would like their COVID numbers to be low. And if they got wind that their hospitals were inflating numbers, they'd be spitting nickels.​

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4. There are no whistle-blowers. No administrator, nurse, doctor who has a twinge of conscience to come forward to blow the whistle (and do so in a reliable way with proof that's actionable by authorities). This also means there's no family member who gets an autopsy report and says, "Hey, Granma didn't have COVID. That's the first thing they tested!" Also, all the medical labs would have to be in on the conspiracy, too.​

Even the guy in the article says he says that he isn't claiming hospitals are doing it. He just wants to point out "they could."

Hospitals *could* be killing their patients using a blend of science and magic to see if they can resurrect the dead. Now, just because I said "they could" doesn't mean I'm accusing anyone of anything. But, did you notice how there's cemeteries everywhere? Hmmm?

 

[hopemax]

Care facilities

Covid-19 Cases Jump in Sunbelt Nursing Homes

The current surge that has mostly infected the young now shows signs of reaching a more-vulnerable elderly population.

www.wsj.com

 

[xdan0920]

Alright, we are in conspiracy land, and on that note, I’ll take my leave.

 

[DCBaker]

Effective immediately, CA is closing some indoor business operations statewide and additional indoor business operations in counties on
@CAPublicHealth Monitoring List for 3 consecutive days.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Essentially...Los Angeles has SHUT DOWN.

 

[Andrew C]

Effective immediately, CA is closing some indoor business operations statewide and additional indoor business operations in counties on
@CAPublicHealth Monitoring List for 3 consecutive days.


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Well that sucks for them.

 

[Touchdown]

California: 0.8% of the population has been confirmed as having had Covid, shutting down

Florida: 1.3% of the population has had Covid

Texas: 0.9% and close to closing down
Arizona: 1.6%

And in case you were wondering, New York: 2.1%

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Effective immediately, CA is closing some indoor business operations statewide and additional indoor business operations in counties on
@CAPublicHealth Monitoring List for 3 consecutive days.


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Card rooms? Does that mean poker and such in a casino? Don’t know why but my mind went to a dark room, behind the door at a bar filled with cigarette smoke.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

California: 0.8% of the population has been confirmed as having had Covid, shutting down

Florida: 1.3% of the population has had Covid

Texas: 0.9% and close to closing down
Arizona: 1.6%

And in case you were wondering, New York: 2.1%

Thank god I live in CA....I mean we fumbled the ball for a bit..but now were back on track.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Card rooms? Does that mean poker and such in a casino? Don’t know why but my mind went to a dark room, behind the door at a bar filled with cigarette smoke.

yes

 

[DisneyDebRob]

yes

But the casino can stay open just not the poker rooms?

 

[Andrew C]

Thank god I live in CA....I mean we fumbled the ball for a bit..but now were back on track.

When cases and hospitalizations flatten and then start to drop, you are back on track.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

But the casino can stay open just not the poker rooms?

correct. They technically can't shut the casinos down here because they are Native American owned. They did close in the Spring to do their part in flattening the curve.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

When cases and hospitalizations flatten and then start to drop, you are back on track.

At least we are headed in the right direction.

 

[DCBaker]

"The city of Key West on Monday ordered everyone over age six to wear face coverings whenever they leave their homes — even if they are able to maintain social distancing outside."

“We have limited medical support on this small island, and the counties north of us are major national hot spots,” said City Manager Greg Veliz. “Please, everyone, take personal responsibility and wear a mask.”

People, however, do not have to wear masks while in their cars or on their boats, according to an exception in the new order.

Also, this new rule doesn’t apply to people who work in offices not open to the public.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article244190357.html

 

[oceanbreeze77]

With the steps CA has taken today I think at this point its safe to say that DL will not be opening for quite some time.

 

[networkpro]

I wonder if they are also classifying everyone as having medicare?

Will need a graph.