Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Jrb1979]

Is there nothing fun to do in Canada.

We don't have as many or as good theme parks as the US does.

 

[legwand77]

It's this one graph, if you read the details in the PDF. The poster is conflating the two. I don't even think this is put on the dashboard.

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ah yes correct it is that one graph, the number of "additional tests" looks to be about 2000 based on the daily numbers, 6/27 is 10,088 positives vs real 8577. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Lilofan]

A lot of us go to Rocky point,Mexico to vacation. We drive through that land and into Mexico. It’s a very popular spot for Arizonans.

Rocky Point ( Puerto Penasco ) in the Sonora region is Sinaloa drug cartel land. You are certainly brave to vacation there.

 

[Miss Bella]

We don't have as many or as good theme parks as the US does.

My favorite vacation iinvolves a cruise. I haven’t taken a vacation in 9 years that didn’t involve getting on a ship. How depressed do you think I am right now. LOL I’ve booked some land based trips over the next year. I’m going to make the best of it.

 

[Jrb1979]

My favorite vacation iinvolves a cruise. I haven’t taken a vacation in 9 years that didn’t involve getting on a ship. How depressed do you think I am right now. LOL I’ve booked some land based trips over the next year. I’m going to make the best of it.

Now you can see why I get frustrated seeing so many trying to justify the spike in cases in many states. It severely affects the majority of my vacation plans. If we would all just practice social distancing, wear makes when needed, like most do here in Canada, and if the government would help enforcing the rules things would be over much quicker.

 

[Miss Bella]

Rocky Point ( Puerto Penasco ) in the Sonora region is Sinaloa drug cartel land. You are certainly brave to vacation there.

Ive only been once years ago but my coworkers and neighbors go a lot. It’s actual a very safe resort area. Just don’t leave the resort area. Like I saI’d I’m a cruise fanatic. They were supposed to build a cruise port there. I’m not sure if it’s still happening.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

We don't have as many or as good theme parks as the US does.

But you have Niagara Falls and Clifton Hill and the street of fun! Which deserves a trip from me once a year. Niagara brewery has some of the finest beers I’ve ever had.

 

[DisneyCane]

It's this one graph, if you read the details in the PDF. The poster is conflating the two. I don't even think this is put on the dashboard.

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Correct. The new cases aren't counted multiple times. This is just the report of all test results for the day, which includes re-tests of prior positive patients.

 

[legwand77]

Florida is in the 14 day window of new cases dramatically rising, yet hospitalizations are steady and might even have go down overall. Hospitals are currently operating as normal. We would have really started to see a significant jump in hospitalizations by now. It will be much more evident this week. Probably won't see that in a headline.

 

[xdan0920]

One thing with Sweden that is misrepresented is that they just continued with life and accepted the virus infection. They didn’t. Here is the mobility charts for the US and Sweden:

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So while there was more moving around in Sweden than the US it was far from business as usual. By April 1 they had around a 30% drop in mobility nationwide which continued mostly for several months. The US peaked around -50% and is still around 10% below where Sweden currently sits. The point is that there’s a false narrative out there that Sweden decided to just keep everything open and it was business as usual. Clearly that was not the case. Many people reduced activity, stayed home more and practiced the same social distancing we did here. Unfortunately the uptick in mobility in Sweden did very little to help their economy.

Sweden actually did help their economy though.

Sweden's economy actually grew in the first quarter after it opted against a full virus lockdown

It comes at a time when the country has the highest coronavirus death rate in the world.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Miss Bella]

Now you can see why I get frustrated seeing so many trying to justify the spike in cases in many states. It severely affects the majority of my vacation plans. If we would all just practice social distancing, wear makes when needed, like most do here in Canada, and if the government would help enforcing the rules things would be over much quicker.

I understand your disappointment, but you have no control over it. Being angry or depressed about won’t change it. Sometimes you have to adapt and overcome.

 

[xdan0920]

Just like it was basically over in Florida, right? WHO still won’t take them off the at-risk list and their infection to test rate is still at 12%.

Swedish Disease Expert Calls WHO's COVID-19 Warning 'A Total Mistake'

Anders Tegnell says the WHO misinterpreted Swedish data when it included Sweden in a list of nations with a resurgence. Days before the WHO warning, Sweden saw a surge of 1,699 new coronavirus cases.

www.npr.org

WHO, the CDC, the media need Sweden to be a failure. Because if they aren’t. What have we done?

 

[legwand77]

Sweden actually did help their economy though.

Sweden's economy actually grew in the first quarter after it opted against a full virus lockdown

It comes at a time when the country has the highest coronavirus death rate in the world.

www.cnbc.com

and the jury is still out as far as the yearly excess deaths, most likely by the end of the year their excess deaths will not be any different from previous years

 

[Heppenheimer]

We don't have as many or as good theme parks as the US does.

According to the Wikipedia article on Canada's Wonderland, that location was once briefly considered for Walt's second park. I guess a review of the region's average temperatures in winter probably quickly killed the GTA for consideration.

And then, there was that great April Fool's Day article about the Disney company opening a resort on the Toronto islands.

Finally, I'm of the opinion that if the Disney Company ever developed a ski resort, it would look like Mont Tremblant.

 

[Miss Bella]

Did someone say they couldn’t?

The person I asked the question seemed to understand what I was asking and she answered it . It wasn’t meant as an insult to Canada.

 

[Jrb1979]

I understand your disappointment, but you have no control over it. Being angry or depressed about won’t change it. Sometimes you have to adapt and overcome.

I am adapting. I no longer have any interest in going to any theme park anywhere. Not til this gets much better. I'm no longer angry or depressed all I do now is shake my head.

 

[GoofGoof]

Sweden actually did help their economy though.

Sweden's economy actually grew in the first quarter after it opted against a full virus lockdown

It comes at a time when the country has the highest coronavirus death rate in the world.

www.cnbc.com

Their Q4 2019 was probably fine too. How did the second quarter look? Q1 ends 3/31. Parts of the US didn’t even lock down until April.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Swedish Disease Expert Calls WHO's COVID-19 Warning 'A Total Mistake'

Anders Tegnell says the WHO misinterpreted Swedish data when it included Sweden in a list of nations with a resurgence. Days before the WHO warning, Sweden saw a surge of 1,699 new coronavirus cases.

www.npr.org

WHO, the CDC, the media need Sweden to be a failure. Because if they aren’t. What have we done?

The conspiracy theories continue. If you read the link you provided the increase was over the first quarter of the year. As they stated open while others shut down, well of course they would be doing good.

A year to forget’

Last month, Sweden’s central bank said the pandemic had damaged the country’s business and supply chains and warned many companies would be “hit hard,” with lots of people likely to lose their jobs over the coming months.

The National Institute of Economic Research, a respected think tank, said in a statement published April 29 that it believed Sweden’s economy would shrink 7% this year, with unemployment anticipated to rise to 10.2%.

They just delayed the bad economy they are facing now and through the end of the year, and let the deaths pile up.

 

[xdan0920]

The conspiracy theories continue. If you read the link you provided the increase was over the first quarter of the year. As they stated open while others shut down, well of course they would be doing good.

A year to forget’

Last month, Sweden’s central bank said the pandemic had damaged the country’s business and supply chains and warned many companies would be “hit hard,” with lots of people likely to lose their jobs over the coming months.

The National Institute of Economic Research, a respected think tank, said in a statement published April 29 that it believed Sweden’s economy would shrink 7% this year, with unemployment anticipated to rise to 10.2%.

They just delayed the bad economy they are facing now and through the end of the year, and let the deaths pile up.

April 29th.

 

[GoofGoof]

April 29th.

A month later than March 31...the end of Q1.