Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Polkadotdress

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Absolutely, going to extremes doesn't Help either way at all. There is way to much panic going on largely driven by the media.

One example just yesterday the New Yorker puts out an alarming article that over 12000 people are currently hospitalized today in Florida for Covid, as of this posting still hasn’t been corrected. Only around 2000 people are hospitalized currently with Covid at 3.5% of the beds

Just terrible reporting. That is the Cumulative number since back in March. The incorrect Florida stats are about halfway down In the article.


Then perhaps you should go back and reread the article...particularly the part I quoted for you here: "In Florida, 12,673 people have been hospitalized, compared with a cumulative total of 8,553 a month ago, according to the COVID Tracking Project. "

They are referencing the 12K # as the cumulative number. Not shoddy reporting. Shoddy interpretation by you, looking for a "gotcha" to prove your point about the panic-driven media.
 

DisneyDebRob

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Be prepared more ”records” will be set this week but the overall danger is very low unless you are a high risk individual, hospitals are not being overrun, etc. you wouldn’t know that from the news though. we with constant word surging, records setting, etc. it is really getting ridiculous and is causing much more harm to society than Covid ever will do. Look how closley we follow the numbers on here, posting instantly when they are released.
I have no idea what newscast you watch but I have never seen , or at least I should say , never got the feeling of what you are saying.
Do they say surging? Record setting? Of course they do. That’s what’s happening in the areas they are talking about. That’s not a lie or misinformation. If you take it as scaring people well you take something from it that I don’t.
I also haven’t heard hospitals being overrun since the days of NY and NJ when it was happening. Again, if your getting fear from this I don’t know what to tell you.
If it’s surging, say it.. if it set a record, say it. I don’t want it downplayed, I want to know what’s going so I can make choices for my family.
 
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Lilofan

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Maybe I'm naive but it seems like testing employees wouldn't be a bad idea although my hope was that their safety plans would be enough on their own. Masks, screening, and checking temperature every day is right up there with standards to enter a hospital.
WDW has a workforce that is over 60K cast that work different shift times in hundreds of locations on property. To test every cast member every day all hours of the day and night is not even realistic.
 

legwand77

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There goes that theory then ;)
To clarify, the Disney part was an if , I know they aren’t and can’t test everyone cm , I assumed that would be obvious and common knowledge to everyone on this Disney board that they are not testing everyone. Just making the point that IF Disney did they would have shifted the numbers dramatically just from them alone.

smh
 

legwand77

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I have no idea what newscast you watch but I have never seen , or at least I should say , never got the feeling of what you are saying.
Do they say surging? Recorded setting? Of course they do. That’s what’s happening in the areas they are talking about. That’s not a lie or misinformation. If you take it as scaring people well you take something from it that I don’t.
I also haven’t heard hospitals being overrun since the day of NY and NJ when it was happening. Again, if your getting fear from this I don’t know what to tell you.
If it’s surging, say it.. if it set a record, say it. I don’t want it downplayed, I want to know what’s going so I can make choices for my family.

The news media hasn’t sensationalized any aspect of this in your opinion?
 

legwand77

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Then perhaps you should go back and reread the article...particularly the part I quoted for you here: "In Florida, 12,673 people have been hospitalized, compared with a cumulative total of 8,553 a month ago, according to the COVID Tracking Project. "

They are referencing the 12K # as the cumulative number. Not shoddy reporting. Shoddy interpretation by you, looking for a "gotcha" to prove your point about the panic-driven media.

They corrected it after I posted, see note at the bottom of the article.

Knew they would eventually , why I included “as of this posting” but way late after the article already had its ”life” for such an egregious error.
 
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peter11435

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To clarify, the Disney part was an if , I know they aren’t and can’t test everyone cm , I assumed that would be obvious and common knowledge to everyone on this Disney board that they are not testing everyone. Just making the point that IF Disney did they would have shifted the numbers dramatically just from them alone.

smh
So let me get this straight. You know Disney is not doing this but you’re still suggesting that something you know is not happening could be a factor contributing to the increase in cases?
 

DisneyCane

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At the highest level of the federal government yesterday there was again a call to reduce testing. I would hope the leaders in FL would ignore that and continue to ramp up testing. It should be fairly obvious if testing slows down.

A sarcastic "joke" to drive home the point that more testing = more cases is not a "call." I don't think that FL will be reducing anything considering that all they do is tout how much testing keeps coming on line and how much spare capacity there is at drive through sites for more to get tested.
 

legwand77

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So let me get this straight. You know Disney is not doing this but you’re still suggesting that something you know is not happening could be a factor contributing to the increase in cases?
No , just saying if they did it would really shift the numbers. this gotcha stuff is getting pedantic
 

The Mom

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Then perhaps you should go back and reread the article...particularly the part I quoted for you here: "In Florida, 12,673 people have been hospitalized, compared with a cumulative total of 8,553 a month ago, according to the COVID Tracking Project. "

They are referencing the 12K # as the cumulative number. Not shoddy reporting. Shoddy interpretation by you, looking for a "gotcha" to prove your point about the panic-driven media.

Again, those are the cumulative numbers - are they subtracting numbers when patients are discharged? It isn't clear, and unless they do so we really don't know the true numbers. They appear to be going up, but maybe not as much as it seems.
 

peter11435

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No , just saying if they did it would really shift the numbers. this gotcha stuff is getting pedantic
If anything it would probably shift the numbers in the opposite direction of what you are alluding to. If companies like Disney started requiring all employees regardless of exposure/symptoms to get tested it would lower the percent positive.
 

legwand77

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You should actually see the opposite effect. More mandatory testing of asymptomatic individuals would yield less overall positive results. Therefore driving down the positivity rate.

Ie. Targeted testing of someone with ILI symptoms would more likely be COVID than randomly testing an asymptomatic 20 year old.

Better targeted contact tracing of known COVID cases though would more likely skew your results to higher numbers. Compared to randomly only testing people who present to ED that want a test.
Not if the asymptotic spread of the virus is much more than already is known, we don’t know either way, but we will find out eventually either way
 

The Mom

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A sarcastic "joke" to drive home the point that more testing = more cases is not a "call." I don't think that FL will be reducing anything considering that all they do is tout how much testing keeps coming on line and how much spare capacity there is at drive through sites for more to get tested.

Our drive through sites are full - again. The numbers waiting dropped significantly, and then rose again this past week after the local news story. The waits are also long in other areas - but most of the people waiting to be tested are not "sick" but want to know if they are positive.

Which is a very different situation than it was in March & April. The % of positives were lower despite people being symptomatic. Now the % is higher despite people being asymptomatic. Either this virus has a lot more asymptomatic than symptomatic cases than expected, or the testing is getting better. Or asymptomatic people were never being tested during other mass respiratory viral infections?

Hopefully, we will learn a lot about public health and how to respond to an epidemic when this is all over.
 

DisneyDebRob

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The news media hasn’t sensationalized any aspect of this in your opinion?
Everything in the news is sensationalized . From the opening of a new Italian restaurant, that has the best food in the world to the man down the street who is the best dad in the world because he did something nice for his children. I look at news for what it is. I double and triple check things that I might have a question or worry about. Truth doesn’t put fear in me, exact opposite does.
We know there’s not one newscast on today that doesn’t go for the headlines. It’s up to us to sift through what everyone is telling us to find the truth. Even if it’s not what we first believed.
 
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