peter11435
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There are no tourists here. You can’t expect it to be anything but dead when dealing with locals alone, even before you factor in a pandemic, mask restrictions, and a tropical storm.
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DisneyDebRob
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I’m from PA and just reading about everywhere, not from national news because they tend to skew things, so I usually go to local papers like this one from Dallas
How many people are in the hospital with COVID-19? Texas just set a record
The Texas Department of State Health Services reported on June 8 that 1,935 people with COVID-19 are being treated in Texas hospitals.
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I’m sure in your state as well as others, there are spots that are slow and others that are increasing. When I see 40% increase in hospitalizations it should get anyone’s attention.
Piebald
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I'll give you the lack of tourists but "tropical storm" is a huge stretch. I understand it is a week day and generally much slower but I'm still shocked at how absolutely dead it is. It feels like walk on and stay on the vehicle 3 times in a row dead.
peter11435
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It’s not really a stretch. The central Florida weather has been impacted by a tropical storm over the last few days. Remember that night of multiple tornados? That was part of the outer bands. I realize it wasn’t a direct hit, but many locals aren’t going to go to an outdoor theme park in the middle of a severe thunderstorm.
Not sure where you are coming up with that. Current numbers for Texas:
Available Hospital Beds: 15,402
Available ICU Beds: 1723
Currently in Texas Hospitals: 2056
So they have over 14,000 beds/ICU beds available. Doesn't look like crushed at all. In addition, daily new fatalities have fallen for the last few days. Daily new cases have also fallen the last few days. There is still a lot of work to do, but at least some things are trending in the right direction.
DisneyDebRob
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Maybe crushed was the wrong word. I’ve posted links last few pages of 40% increases in hospitalizations. I’ve also acknowledged they have plenty of beds and respirators. I’ve also said many doctors are worried about the increase. So I may have used the wrong word, but there is worry from the health officials.
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aliceismad
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Does Everyone Have COVID-19 Already? | National Review
A study out of Oxford notes a hopeful possibility. But only a possibility.www.nationalreview.com
This study, like many others, is a simulated model. It is also preprint and has not been peer reviewed. You can download the actual PDF here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.24.20042291v1
Sirwalterraleigh
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Lol...that’s the “other” side of the coin
Sirwalterraleigh
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...I’m betting on the “under”
As I said on another thread last week: there’s a historical record here over the last 3 months. People “own” their predispositions now. Nowhere to hide.
DVCakaCarlF
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I have nothing to hide...I’ll own anything I say, write, type - it’s an open forum.
Except that 40% is completely misleading, and I have to wonder where they are getting their information from. If they only have a total of 2056 people currently hospitalized, and 1935 were added in one day, that would mean that there only 121 people in the hospital for covid-19. That's obviously not the case. It looks like that data is cumulative, and not necessarily a single daily total. If the 2056 today is accurate, then means that they added 121 yesterday. According to the chart, there were 1878 on June 7. Going from 1878 to 1935 to 2056 is hardly a 40% increase.
Just another news media blowing everything out of proportion to get clicks. It really is sad that they either can't or won't report accurate information nowadays.
Just to clarify things-- Texas has posted the largest number of hospitalizations, that is true. But to say they're being "crushed" right now is bit misleading. The whole point of the lockdown was to make it so the hospitals wouldn't be slammed.
This is the current data for Texas:
So hospitalizations are up, definitely. But the availability numbers don't look like they're being "slammed" or in any danger of being overwhelmed.
Have they made the *right* decision? That's going to require more data over time. If the case load starts rising preciously, there's going to be a problem. We know that cases are going to increase as things open, the concern is making sure we have the right mitigation efforts in place.
How much does Universal rely on Disney? In other words, how many Universal visitors are are going on a day off from Disney and if Disney is closed Universal gets crushed? Just curious. I'm sure there are statistics on this.
DisneyCane
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So, to summarize the clarification:
3 studies were done to try and determine asymptomatic transmission. They all reached the conclusion that they didn't find transmission by asymptomatic patients. A few member-states have made presentations which also reached the same conclusion. No study has been done that reached a different conclusion.
However, there are models, with widely varied estimates of asymptomatic transmission and one model, which is the high end of the range, says that asymptomatic transmission is 40% of spread so, therefore, I can not say that asymptomatic transmission is "very rare" like I said yesterday when talking about the actual studies that all reached the same conclusion.
DisneyDebRob
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See prior answer.
Rider
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The W.H.O. walked back an earlier assertion that asymptomatic transmission is ‘very rare.’
A top expert at the World Health Organization on Tuesday walked back her earlier assertion that transmission of the coronavirus by people who do not have symptoms is “very rare.”
Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, who made the original comment at a W.H.O. briefing on Monday, said that it was based on just two or three studies and that it was a “misunderstanding” to say asymptomatic transmission is rare globally.
“I was just responding to a question, I wasn’t stating a policy of W.H.O. or anything like that,” she said.
Dr. Van Kerkhove said that the estimates of transmission from people without symptoms come primarily from models, which may not provide an accurate representation. “That’s a big open question, and that remains an open question,” she said.
Scientists had sharply criticized the W.H.O. for creating confusion on the issue, given the far-ranging public policy implications. Governments around the world have recommended face masks and social distancing measures because of the risk of asymptomatic transmission.
A range of scientists said Dr. Van Kerkhove’s comments did not reflect the current scientific research.
“All of the best evidence suggests that people without symptoms can and do readily spread SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19,” scientists at the Harvard Global Health Institute said in a statement on Tuesday.
“Communicating preliminary data about key aspects of the coronavirus without much context can have tremendous negative impact on how the public and policymakers respond to the pandemic.”
A widely cited paper published in April suggested that people are most infectious about two days before the onset of symptoms, and estimated that 44 percent of new infections are a result of transmission from people who were not yet showing symptoms.
Dr. Van Kerkhove and other W.H.O. experts reiterated the importance of physical distancing, personal hygiene, testing, tracing, quarantine and isolation in controlling the pandemic.
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Prince-1
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I don't understand this comment at all.
The simple reason you don’t understand it is because it’s made up. I’d say a lie but ya know...mods!!
Prince-1
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I’m going with not reading the articles.
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