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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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The first time someone does this, it is discussion. By the 4th time it is just argumentative. There are some posters who bring the same "discussion" into multiple threads, with the same arguments, and the same posters respond, so it continues into other threads.
In this instance, pretty much all of the positions - and supporting arguments - have already been posted. Multiple times, so it is the same argument over and over. In the same threads.
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nickys
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Why would all states have to be letting people travel? As I understand it, some people are allowed to travel now, and are visiting other states. There are flights happening every day, and many will choose to drive. So any DVC members who can get to WDW for their reservation can be used to try out procedures. Along with any locals who fit the criteria they set, for example AP holders, who are also able to get there. Then they start opening the resorts and letting resort guests in too.
There is no reason for Disney to wait until all DVC members are free to travel to Florida.
Peter Pan's Shadow
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I've been mulling this topic over as well. So small kids, special needs, etc. and their challenges, of course, will need to be considered. Then add in someone not in those categories that says they need a break from a mask, can't breathe, they're standing all by themselves so what's the harm, someone citing constitutional rights or whatever, etc. What a bag of worms. Then to have a 19 yr old CM ask them to put a mask on and they say no, then what? It's a lot of things to juggle with a "simple mask directive". This is why I like watching all the YT vids of Citywalk to look for this stuff. In the same vid the guy said only managers could tell you to put a mask on, I saw several adults walking without a mask on. And what about the probability of people using street justice to make others put a mask on for their personal safety? It's all going to happen as the numbers of guests increase.
Giss Neric
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What they should do is to put a huge sign at the entrance of parking that says NO MASK, NO ENTRY. People have the option to just turn back around or deal with it. Stores can also turn guests away if they entered without masks.
We cannot be lenient to entitlement cause consequences are huge. I hope Disney Springs is monitoring this closely.
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Polynesia
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How will Disney monitor guests from states that done yet allow travel? Will they ban certain areas of the country? I don’t know what will happen
Miss Bella
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People are still flying. Loads are down because nothing is open, but that should slowly change. There are no non-stops until July on AA from where I live to MCO, but then they are planning on bringing back one flight in July and back up to three in August. If WDW is not open I'm sure those will be reduced back to one.
I think there are still a few states that require a 14-day quarantine, but hopefully, those will be lifted as the Summer tourism season kicks off.
Miss Bella
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I know a handful of states aren't letting people fly in without quarantine, but what states aren't allowing people to fly out?
I think a further restriction will be for people staying at resorts. That way they can monitor where you come from by driver's license. Rental property is not allowed for people from out of country and certain states where they have not moved to a phased status. This would imply that DVC members from abroad would not be admitted.
GoofGoof
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I generally agree with this. I do think Disney needs to wait until most people can freely travel before opening. There was an article posted hundreds of pages back that said 85% of the customer base for WDW comes from outside of Florida. It’s not financially feasible to open WDW with only FL residents for longer than a brief soft opening period and even that would possibly only be a few resorts and a park or two. Even opening for FL only anytime soon is problematic. As you said Miami is just starting phase 1 and that’s the largest population center in FL. Chapek said on the earnings call they would not open the parks unless they could generate positive operating margin so it’s a pipe dream that some people have that WDW will open for FL residents only soon and it will be empty and all attractions will be walk on. That could happen for a few weeks before the full opening but not any time soon.
As far as opening for certain states, I doubt that will happen either. Disney wants no parts of policing people’s state of origin. If it’s not safe to operate with people from those states in attendance then it’s not safe to open. Aside from the obvious issues with enforcing those types of rules the PR hit would be devastating long term. You would be alienating people from the Northeast where a large chunk of your regular customers come. Disney as a business doesn’t want to alienate a valuable chunk of their customer base so that a handful of people can visit the MK a few weeks or a month earlier. It makes little business sense.
If they are from a state that FL has put on the self-quarantine list, they can be arrested, fined, etc. I have read about this happening in Hawaii, but haven't read/heard anything about it happening in FL - but that doesn't mean it hasn't.
As I asked before, do you (general you) feel lucky? Or do you want to spend your vacation dealing with police, courts, etc? If I lived in one of those states, that would be one more thing to add to my list of reasons I won't be going to WDW for a while.
Patcheslee
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I managed to talk my 11yo out of wanting to wear heels to her father/daughter dance onceas no one has ever changed someone else's mind.
Live in Indiana and hoping for an Ohio vacation in June/July, even without spending near my Disney vacation budget, I'd personally not risk it.
CanadianGordon
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As much as it pains me I may not get to visit Disney World again until late next year. Will have to settle for seeing Canada this year. I hope.
nickys
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That isn’t Disney’s job though. If people get to WDW then why would DIsney ban them? Does your local store demand to see your state ID before serving you?
nickys
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The international guests are a moot point. We can’t come into the US period. When we can we’ll probably be told we have to quarantine at first.
I dare say by the time the parks open all domestic travel, if not international travel too, will be operating.
TrainsOfDisney
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I think everyone is free to travel in the USA. When you arrive, you may be told you must self-Quarantine.
I think a lot of people will be vacationing close to home. I’ve visited my local state parks way more then ever before already.
Destinations like Vegas and Orlando are going to have it rough I think.
Disney Analyst
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Thats our plan. A local Canadian trip, if it’s allowed.
GoofGoof
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I agree. This will likely be a Summer of local stuff for most people. Outdoor activities will also dominate for most people. Parks & beaches will be popular. The airlines are going to take a beating too as well as more national attractions.
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