CoP to b demolished

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
I saw a UFO once. Not saying it was alien, could have been our own. But what I saw was INSANE. My point being that there is a higher chance to see a UFO vs CoP being being torn down, lol

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A W Reezy

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First of all, if you're going to start a rumor, please provide a source and at least attempt to make your post readable. It's ridiculous to think that after the recent renovations, they'd just up and scrap COP. Are you just trying to get us stirred up!?! Cause it's working! It's wor....

Oh wait.... 2001? Oh sweet internet, why do you do this to me?

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Ralphlaw

Well-Known Member
Aah, August of 2001. Just a month before 9/11 changed everything. So much in the World has changed since then. And so much has changed at WDW as well. Nevertheless, for what it's worth:

First, Walt was not really a blind sentimentalist. He embraced change, and never seemed to be one to dwell on the past. Remember, Disneyland was only about 10 years old when he died, so we don't know what he would hold onto and what he would have replaced given time.

Second, Walt did not do squat to buy up old places that were near and dear to his legacy. His former studios were never bought back. I don't think the old Hyperion studios even exist anymore, and the old Kansas City storefronts where he got his start could have been easily purchased by him during his lifetime. He didn't bother, yet those buildings are still standing today, owned by someone somewhere.

Third, the Carousel of Progress at Disneyland closed down in the 1970s when it was moved to Florida. Walt obviously had no part in that.

Fourth, the version we have today is substantially different from what Walt actually saw. The concept is the same, but the details have been changed many times over the years.

Fifth, if we're going to keep it, it needs some serious TLC. At least half the time, something seems to go wrong. Sometimes the seats don't go all the way to the next stage. Sometimes the sound is off. Usually someone's mouth isn't working. The last time we rode it, the sound didn't work, and somehow we ended up having to sit through the whole thing twice because they wouldn't let us off. Instead of 21 minutes, we were on for more than half an hour.

Sixth, it desperately needs updating. We start in the 1900s, go to the 1920s, visit the 1950s, and suddenly we're in some sort of contemporary time that is probably a bit in the future--a leap of more than half a century.

Seventh, is the concept itself still viable? Good question, and I don't have the answer. A revolving theatre is interesting, but can the basic blueprint ever become a "Wow, that's worth flying to Florida to see!" attraction?

Bottom line: I'd be sad to see it go. I was also sad to see the Timekeeper, the old TTA narration, the SE Jeremy Irons narration, Spectromagic, Catastrophe Canyon, Maelstrom, the old Mexican Boat Ride, Tapestry of Dreams, Jammin' Jungle Parade, and LIghts Motor Action go. So be it, but of all the above, I would probably feel the least hurt to see CofP go. Other than a handy sit down break in the day, I feel very little for it.
 
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thomas998

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So how's that destruction of CoP in 2002 coming?
Just to put a stake in the heart of this rumor would someone please push to have the CoP put on the national register of historic places... Then everyone could breath a sigh of relief and know that CoP would never be bothered regardless of how much of an eyesore it ever happens to become..
 

Ralphlaw

Well-Known Member
What if an amazing new attraction or land could be built in the spot, and only in that spot? Like anything else, something should be thrown out only if the replacement is a step up. So often, a knee jerk "Get rid of it/him/her/them" is executed even though no viable replacement is available. This happens in business, sports teams, and families. Dump the employee, the coach and the spouse, and then sit miserably while you rue your decision.

I don't think CofP should be replaced unless something truly great needs that space. If so, then move on.
 

mitchk

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You do know the attraction has an upgrade coming?[/QUOTE]

Hush...hush..my man....lol... let it be a surprise
 

mitchk

Well-Known Member
No, but glad to hear it.

........... yup.... let's hope it really happens this time, don't expect anything major, but there will be upgrades to a few effects , AAs, and hopefully the full updated finale... but let's also keep in mind this is wishful thinking/hoping this is over 10 years in the making
 
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21stamps

Well-Known Member
Aah, August of 2001. Just a month before 9/11 changed everything. So much in the World has changed since then. And so much has changed at WDW as well. Nevertheless, for what it's worth:

First, Walt was not really a blind sentimentalist. He embraced change, and never seemed to be one to dwell on the past. Remember, Disneyland was only about 10 years old when he died, so we don't know what he would hold onto and what he would have replaced given time.

Second, Walt did not do squat to buy up old places that were near and dear to his legacy. His former studios were never bought back. I don't think the old Hyperion studios even exist anymore, and the old Kansas City storefronts where he got his start could have been easily purchased by him during his lifetime. He didn't bother, yet those buildings are still standing today, owned by someone somewhere.

Third, the Carousel of Progress at Disneyland closed down in the 1970s when it was moved to Florida. Walt obviously had no part in that.

Fourth, the version we have today is substantially different from what Walt actually saw. The concept is the same, but the details have been changed many times over the years.

Fifth, if we're going to keep it, it needs some serious TLC. At least half the time, something seems to go wrong. Sometimes the seats don't go all the way to the next stage. Sometimes the sound is off. Usually someone's mouth isn't working. The last time we rode it, the sound didn't work, and somehow we ended up having to sit through the whole thing twice because they wouldn't let us off. Instead of 21 minutes, we were on for more than half an hour.

Sixth, it desperately needs updating. We start in the 1900s, go to the 1920s, visit the 1950s, and suddenly we're in some sort of contemporary time that is probably a bit in the future--a leap of more than half a century.

Seventh, is the concept itself still viable? Good question, and I don't have the answer. A revolving theatre is interesting, but can the basic blueprint ever become a "Wow, that's worth flying to Florida to see!" attraction?

Bottom line: I'd be sad to see it go. I was also sad to see the Timekeeper, the old TTA narration, the SE Jeremy Irons narration, Spectromagic, Catastrophe Canyon, Maelstrom, the old Mexican Boat Ride, Tapestry of Dreams, Jammin' Jungle Parade, and LIghts Motor Action go. So be it, but of all the above, I would probably feel the least hurt to see CofP go. Other than a handy sit down break in the day, I feel very little for it.
I know it's just personal preference, you're not wrong, and I'm not right..
But, CoP is one of the few attractions that I would probably literally cry if it left.
CoP, It's a Small World, Swiss Family Tree House, Tom Sawyer Island, Peoplemover, Space Mountain. I can't even imagine a Magic Kingdom without them. Even though they may not be a reason for a lot of people to get on a plane and head for WDW, they're still so wonderful for what they are.
I was upset over the skyway and mr toads,but not on the same level that I would be with the above listed attractions.
 

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