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Coco ride? (Image on new Imagineering Site)
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Kman101
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It didn't. But then again they were "shocked" Frozen was so popular, weren't they?
Coco's more popular than some realize I think. Especially as others have said, at DCA. But I've also seen large crowds show up for the Coco show in Epcot (that they dumped, then briefly brought back). I don't think merch is flying off the shelves though for it. So I imagine that plays a factor. I also think they didn't want to allocate the budget right now for such a large overhaul of Mexico while everything else is going on. It makes sense to save it for later, along with Figment and other things.
Bocabear
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What "Later" are they saving things for? The parks have languished for decades...they need to just get in there and get it all done...
If they wanted to put anything off it should have been the EPCOT spine project....which will add absolutely nothing to your EPCOT experience... Attractions are needed...not more blank green space and rentable party venues.
If they wanted to put anything off it should have been the EPCOT spine project....which will add absolutely nothing to your EPCOT experience... Attractions are needed...not more blank green space and rentable party venues.
RSoxNo1
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Was Ratatouille?
The question shouldn't be "was it popular enough?" it should be "does it fit thematically?" We've been brainwashed by our corporate overlords to think the way they're thinking and it's not productive.
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RSoxNo1
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Um... Frozen was a no-brainer IP integration? Or did you mean that generally that Frozen deserves to go in the parks (and not Epcot)?
I agree that Frozen absolutely should have an attraction in the parks. I disagree that Frozen should have a ride in Epcot. Conversely, I would have zero issue with a Coco ride in Epcot.
Sir_Cliff
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Coco's popularity in China is also something that has occurred to me as making an attraction potentially more likely. The fact that they are building a Zootopia land there after ignoring it in the US parks shows that they are paying attention to what films have particularly hit with the Chinese market. As Coco was a huge hit for them there (Pixar's biggest, I think), it would be a natural candidate for an attraction. Sharing the costs across the resorts could help this make more sense financially.
PatF generally is a perfect example of a film that has lived on far beyond what the initial box office of the film would have suggested. In this case, the debate we're having about Coco is different in that everyone acknowledges it was a hit whereas PatF was considered a bit of a flop at the box office. The fact that Coco's presence only seems to be growing in the parks suggests that Disney similarly sees this as having an enduring appeal.
Disney recently ran this really nice television campaign for DCA, for example:
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RobbinsDad
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Yeah that's what I meant. Should have specified.
Kman101
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LOL of course. But you know as well as I do they only allocate so much budget. Of course I agree with you ... I'm still not satisfied with Hollywood Studios ... and Animal Kingdom needs more ...
And you have to think like them. "Later" means they can market these new things to keep the momentum going, should they so choose. I'd rather they go all in now but we know they aren't and won't. Even if they should. They are doing a lot in Epcot. You can't have everything have walls, it's "bad enough" according to some. #WallCOT
KimAnnFran
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quite popular here among my students....
General Mayhem
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Where? Almost nothing has been added or announced after the film left theaters 2 years ago...
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In WDW, first, the merch in the Mexico pavilion. Then the mariachi make their fall set all about Coco. Then they added the Día de los Muertos display with an interactive feature to Mexico. Then they added the Miguel puppet for the Fall mariachi set. Coco gets a big section in the new projection show at DHS.
Over at DCA, they got an even longer Coco Día de los Muertos party with full sized puppets. Then their own party section was supersized.
Each year, something new gets added. I really don't know how you could have missed all of that.
General Mayhem
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I said after it left theaters but apparently you missed that. Also seasonal attractions which started during the initial release don't count as new.
disneylandcm
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While I rarely see Brave merchandise being worn at DLR (the occasional princess dress), I do see Coco apparel on guests every day. And the live show performed around Halloween-Time is still well attended. Coco may not have staying power elsewhere but it certainly does here.
Those things showed up after it left theaters. Making up the rule "but seasonal doesn't count" is silly.
Regardless, I hope this executes a better story than Frozen Ever After. I don't want a glorified meet and greet for a ride, even if the animatronics are impressive. I think they could really create something that captures the beauty of the Land of the Dead, and the culture, and create a fun adventure, if they really wanted to budget for it.
Pumbaa1222
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Part of the reason merch isn't flying is because it sucks for Coco. As a white person in the Northeast, Coco is one of my I favorite movies of all time. But because of cultural appropriation, I can't go around with a bunch of sugar skulls. I have searched for merch of Pepita, and have found almost nothing. They can do better if they wanted to.
While I would hope for an edutainment element with a story focused on familia, togetherness and the learning of Mexican culture... we're likely getting a "Where's Miguel?" action/adventure chase ride. One being classic Disney/Epcot the other, ripped from Universal's playbook. A bit early to speculate but it's worth a discussion. What are we thinking for story concept?
For a bit of armchair: I'd like to see a "Wonder Years" approach with the narration and story of Coco being told through a series of flashback-like movie scene tableaus, thrilling chase sequences where needed. Ending with a big reveal that it was grown Miguel telling this story to his children in preparation for their Dia de los Muertos celebrations.
For a bit of armchair: I'd like to see a "Wonder Years" approach with the narration and story of Coco being told through a series of flashback-like movie scene tableaus, thrilling chase sequences where needed. Ending with a big reveal that it was grown Miguel telling this story to his children in preparation for their Dia de los Muertos celebrations.
jaxonp
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Coco was actually one of the weaker performers in the US market. It did well worldwide but doesn't hold up domestically to older, non-sequel, Pixar Films like UP or Rat when you take inflation into consideration.
Here are the breakdown of Pixar films takings:
m.the-numbers.com
That said, I don't see why they wouldn't do this attraction. Makes a lot more sense to do it for many more reasons than just comparing it's performance at the box office.
Here are the breakdown of Pixar films takings:
Disney-Pixar Production Company Box Office History - The Numbers
Disney-Pixar production company box office earnings
m.the-numbers.com
That said, I don't see why they wouldn't do this attraction. Makes a lot more sense to do it for many more reasons than just comparing it's performance at the box office.
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Timothy_Q
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"Nightmare Before Christmas during halloween and christmas doesn't count"
Kman101
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Oh for sure. A lot of the merchandise isn't very good, agreed. And not to mention how overpriced anything is anymore, nothing is really flying off the shelves like it used to.