EPCOT Coco and Encanto Fit More at World Showcase. Not at Magic Kingdom.

[Centauri Space Station]

They're still IP dump grounds. Lefou sing-along practically replaced impressions de France and has rat behind it. And mexico got the birds replacing the culture boat ride.

Why would Coco not work here in the same sense

Cuz the capacity there isn’t great and would require to reroute the entrance and would be a bigger nightmare than Frozen

 

[WondersOfLife]

Cuz the capacity there isn’t great and would require to reroute the entrance and would be a bigger nightmare than Frozen

Unrelated to what I originally quoted ..

 

[Skibum1970]

I would rather have part of Animation Courtyard turned into an area dedicated to Silly Symphonies.

Oh, that would be awesome as well but I still think that Coco and Encanto would be better fits for DHS (also due to need for rides in the park) or MK second. MK just doesn't need more rides at this point. DHS needs more to do to absorb maybe some more people.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Unrelated to what I originally quoted ..

wrong

 

[The Lochness Monsta]

I agree with the original poster, it would go good at Epcot. They'd probably have to get rid the African Outpost, but that is totally alright with me. That shouldn't even be there, since we already have Animal Kingdom for Africa.

 

[WondersOfLife]

wrong

Correct. You are wrong. Lol

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Correct. You are wrong. Lol

Nah you are

 

[networkpro]

They're still IP dump grounds. Lefou sing-along practically replaced impressions de France and has rat behind it. And mexico got the birds replacing the culture boat ride.

Why would Coco not work here in the same sense

So do you propose adding in RefugeeLand to better reflect the global experience instead?

 

[WondersOfLife]

So do you propose adding in RefugeeLand to better reflect the global experience instead?

.....Explain. I am confusion.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Nah you are

I know you are but what am I!

*Drops mic*

 

[Centauri Space Station]

I know you are but what am I!

*Drops mic*

Wrong! *mic drop*

 

[Robbiem]

What I don't particularly like seeing right now is an entire LAND dedicated to current popular films that may not be as popular in say 10 years. I'm ruling out franchises here that have sequels & spin-off's etc that make them a little more popular. The Magic Kingdom is solely based on those 5 lands (Adventure, Frontier, Fantasy, Tomorrow & Shopping()) I kind of get the whole villains land because it doesn't really focus on one particular character, but to have quite large areas dedicated to one particular film/attraction? I'd much rather see the entire area just be a really large enclosed dark land (much like Mermaid Lagoon at Disney Sea) as a villain area tbf.

There are only a couple of IPs that have long term staying power to merit a permanent theme park land. I think the castle parks work so well because they use a general themed area to showcase the attractions IP and non IP.

To me coco and encanto would fit perfectly in a latin american land like the lost river delta in TDS but you can also add in other IPs like Indiana Jones or even emperors new groove and some general attractions to make a more rounded experience

 

[networkpro]

.....Explain. I am confusion.

If not adding in Disney intellectual property to add new experiences to the World showcase because its "inauthentic" they why not add in something real and not an ideal condensed trope of what another country is, why not add in a land covering those in transit to another existence ?

 

[WondersOfLife]

If not adding in Disney intellectual property to add new experiences to the World showcase because its "inauthentic" they why not add in something real and not an ideal condensed trope of what another country is, why not add in a land covering those in transit to another existence ?

Ah, gotcha.

Those "ideal condensed tropes" of what other countries are, are quite literally still relevant to the culture and differences in how people live and celebrate their cultures. I hate to break it to you, but those ice sculptures are actually a real thing in Canada. As crazy as that sounds. lol. Each country DOES have positive cultural significances. And since you're at a theme park, and not a museum, you're going to see the positive ones.

...Not even sure why I had to explain all of that. That was a ridiculous response.

 

[networkpro]

Ah, gotcha.

Those "ideal condensed tropes" of what other countries are, are quite literally still relevant to the culture and differences in how people live and celebrate their cultures. I hate to break it to you, but those ice sculptures are actually a real thing in Canada. As crazy as that sounds. lol. Each country DOES have positive cultural significances. And since you're at a theme park, and not a museum, you're going to see the positive ones.

...Not even sure why I had to explain all of that. That was a ridiculous response.

Because in your own words "you're at a theme park, and not a museum". Just as you may not agree with what they may change the theme to, doesn't make it cease to become a park. They choose to portray a fictionalized representation of something from one of their productions which may only portray something that exists in remote areas (such as Norge Sami), not something you're more familiar with like Oslo or Bergen.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Because in your own words "you're at a theme park, and not a museum". Just as you may not agree with what they may change the theme to, doesn't make it cease to become a park. They choose to portray a fictionalized representation of something from one of their productions which may only portray something that exists in remote areas (such as Norge Sami), not something you're more familiar with like Oslo or Bergen.

...I don't see the relevance to the conversation that was originally at hand in comparison to this conversation.

 

[networkpro]

...I don't see the relevance to the conversation that was originally at hand in comparison to this conversation.

Your topic was about appropriateness. Sorry if you can't connect the subjective dots.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

This is one of the most confusing threads I have read on here in a long time.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Your topic was about appropriateness.

Correct.

Sorry if you can't connect the subjective dots.

Apology accepted.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

One thing that occurs to me about Coco and Encanto and whether they would fit into World Showcase is that it has only been relatively recently (with some exceptions) that Disney has made films like those two which are explicitly set in and to some extent attempt to celebrate the culture of specific countries. For most of the classics, they are not really grounded in any real place and only have hints of their national origins (if they are acknowledged at all). I'd argue even Beauty & the Beast is not really set in "France" in any meaningful way despite the references to the country and use of some French accents in the way that Ratatouille clearly takes place in France.

I don't know if this goes any way to bridging the IP gap for World Showcase, but Coco is very clearly based on Mexican traditions and did such a good job that it was beloved in Mexico. Encanto also has a whole song celebrating Colombia and draws on Colombian history (La Violencia) and cultural motifs such as the butterflies that are associated with Gabriel García Márquez. In that sense, I could see an Encanto attraction as arguably an appropriate way to represent Colombia in the context of a theme park more so than, say, Disney's Cinderella could represent France.