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spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
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MA Screamin' said:
7% chance on Snow Day Calculator lmao
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Sephirenn

Sephirenn

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Brer Oswald said:
These are great ideas.
View media item 2621Again, I'll post this picture to show you what I was thinking for Peter Pan. Like you said, the queue would start in the London nursery, then transition to Neverland.
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I like it, great picture!

Of course I read through a few pages AFTER I posted, so I have a better idea now. As for the 101 dalmatian search thing, it was part of one of my One Sentence Comp entries, so the write-up so far is basically what you've seen :)

For the Frozen Matterhorn thing, the more subtle approach would be something like the main mountain would be the one with the ice castle on it, and the queue/load area would be the Arnedale castle / village. Then you see a few of the characters at different spots on the mountain. No need for the music or anything, unless you would want to go FULL FROZEN and turn it into a dueling sister vs. sister bobsled family coaster with the music blasting in the background and character animatronics galore. This may also already be the plan, but you could even have the peoplemover/train thing travel up the mountain and pass through the ice castle too, kind of how the peoplemover goes through space mountain in MK.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
Sephirenn said:
I like it, great picture!

Of course I read through a few pages AFTER I posted, so I have a better idea now. As for the 101 dalmatian search thing, it was part of one of my One Sentence Comp entries, so the write-up so far is basically what you've seen :)

For the Frozen Matterhorn thing, the more subtle approach would be something like the main mountain would be the one with the ice castle on it, and the queue/load area would be the Arnedale castle / village. Then you see a few of the characters at different spots on the mountain. No need for the music or anything, unless you would want to go FULL FROZEN and turn it into a dueling sister vs. sister bobsled family coaster with the music blasting in the background and character animatronics galore. This may also already be the plan, but you could even have the peoplemover/train thing travel up the mountain and pass through the ice castle too, kind of how the peoplemover goes through space mountain in MK.
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Yes! Peoplemover transit type ride will be in the park - and having it go through the mountain would be really cool.

I'd probably lean towards the subtle approach to the Frozen Mountain but what are your thoughts for it?
 
MA Screamin'

MA Screamin'

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spacemt354 said:
Yes! Peoplemover transit type ride will be in the park - and having it go through the mountain would be really cool.

I'd probably lean towards the subtle approach to the Frozen Mountain but what are your thoughts for it?
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Brer Oswald said:
Space, just watch the first Fantasia if you get the time. The second isn't that great.
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Hey, I think it had some good scenes! :D Not all, but some... Symphony No. 5, Pines in Rome, Pomp and Circumstance, and The Firebird are pretty much the highlights. The others are good, but not good enough.
 
MA Screamin'

MA Screamin'

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spacemt354 said:
@Sephirenn and everyone here's a rough draft of the Frozen Matterhorn
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Here's my thing about the Matterhorn (great work with the art, Space!): I feel like the nostalgia really outweighs the attraction itself. I'm gonna be very critical, just for the sake of discussion, but since I haven't ever rode the ride, please call me out if my statements are faulty or straight inaccurate.

The mountain itself is placed in a way that really pulls away from any true opportunity for immersion. The reason Everest works is because it was given the space so that Imagineers could create an environment around it, instead of having any constraints that could pull away from the cohesiveness of the attraction. That goes the same way for Splash and Thunder, I suppose. Beyond that, the same sort of principle would have to apply to just the ride. The Matterhorn is a rather small ride, despite the large facade, I believe. So, to have the forced perspective work after guests have viewed Elsa's castle, the ride would have to have that grand, open feel when the castle is approached, inside of it or just surrounding it. Frozen is a classic and deserves something, and I don't have a strong desire for Matterhorn in our Fantasyland. If we do an EPCOT Center, not like 1966 but more like "if EPCOT Center was made today," then maybe I'd be down.

What I'm trying to get to is that I feel like, while the Matterhorn is a classic attraction, we shouldn't follow it's template, as compared to today's standards, I find it to be rather faulty. But that's my two cents, and if it makes the final cut, I'll stand by our group's decision all the way!
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
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MA Screamin' said:
Here's my thing about the Matterhorn (great work with the art, Space!): I feel like the nostalgia really outweighs the attraction itself. I'm gonna be very critical, just for the sake of discussion, but since I haven't ever rode the ride, please call me out if my statements are faulty or straight inaccurate.

The mountain itself is placed in a way that really pulls away from any true opportunity for immersion. The reason Everest works is because it was given the space so that Imagineers could create an environment around it, instead of having any constraints that could pull away from the cohesiveness of the attraction. That goes the same way for Splash and Thunder, I suppose. Beyond that, the same sort of principle would have to apply to just the ride. The Matterhorn is a rather small ride, despite the large facade, I believe. So, to have the forced perspective work after guests have viewed Elsa's castle, the ride would have to have that grand, open feel when the castle is approached, inside of it or just surrounding it. Frozen is a classic and deserves something, and I don't have a strong desire for Matterhorn in our Fantasyland. If we do an EPCOT Center, not like 1966 but more like "if EPCOT Center was made today," then maybe I'd be down.

What I'm trying to get to is that I feel like, while the Matterhorn is a classic attraction, we shouldn't follow it's template, as compared to today's standards, I find it to be rather faulty. But that's my two cents, and if it makes the final cut, I'll stand by our group's decision all the way!
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I agree that nostalgia definitely plays a role in the Matterhorn --- you're talking to someone who likes the WDW Space Mountain more than any other, even though it's falling apart. Talk about nostalgia haha

I went on the Matterhorn in 2013 -- it's got some decent space


But even with that -- I don't think your fears about copying the ride will be needed because if I'm interpreting correctly...this isn't a bobsled ride:bookworm: It's an original attraction (just based around a mountain -- heck it could be called Frozen Mountain):p
 
MA Screamin'

MA Screamin'

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spacemt354 said:
I agree that nostalgia definitely plays a role in the Matterhorn --- you're talking to someone who likes the WDW Space Mountain more than any other, even though it's falling apart. Talk about nostalgia haha

I went on the Matterhorn in 2013 -- it's got some decent space


But even with that -- I don't think your fears about copying the ride will be needed because if I'm interpreting correctly...this isn't a bobsled ride:bookworm: It's an original attraction (just based around a mountain -- heck it could be called Frozen Mountain):p
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Okay, but it'll be a rollercoaster, right, just like Seven Dwarfs?

After seeing that video, some parts feel congested to me, but I suppose that's by virtue of the style of ride we're going for. Everest has room because of big drops, etc. Still though, there will have to be the balance in the actual ride to counteract the forced perspective of the castle. That's my only complaint at this point, thanks for the clarification :)

Speaking of Seven Dwarfs, are there still plans for that coaster, as well? I think the consensus was that it was wanted, if the dark ride scenes were build upon to tell a fuller story, and if it was a tad darker, a la Scary Adventures... I want one, and then a small cottage quick-service, but only for things like pastries and coffee. I don't think seeing whopping triple-patty burgers being ate around Snow White and her animal friends would be appealing, and I love me a good burger :hilarious: What do you all think?
 
FigmentPigments

FigmentPigments

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spacemt354 said:
I agree that nostalgia definitely plays a role in the Matterhorn --- you're talking to someone who likes the WDW Space Mountain more than any other, even though it's falling apart. Talk about nostalgia haha

I went on the Matterhorn in 2013 -- it's got some decent space


But even with that -- I don't think your fears about copying the ride will be needed because if I'm interpreting correctly...this isn't a bobsled ride:bookworm: It's an original attraction (just based around a mountain -- heck it could be called Frozen Mountain):p
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I actually went on this in January with the updated effects. It's only the second time I've ever ridden it so I can't say (for myself) about the nostalgia, but I really enjoyed it. Probably not something I feel I need to ride again, but I can see the appeal and the new effects really add the wow factor.
 
FigmentPigments

FigmentPigments

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MA Screamin' said:
Okay, but it'll be a rollercoaster, right, just like Seven Dwarfs?

After seeing that video, some parts feel congested to me, but I suppose that's by virtue of the style of ride we're going for. Everest has room because of big drops, etc. Still though, there will have to be the balance in the actual ride to counteract the forced perspective of the castle. That's my only complaint at this point, thanks for the clarification :)

Speaking of Seven Dwarfs, are there still plans for that coaster, as well? I think the consensus was that it was wanted, if the dark ride scenes were build upon to tell a fuller story, and if it was a tad darker, a la Scary Adventures... I want one, and then a small cottage quick-service, but only for things like pastries and coffee. I don't think seeing whopping triple-patty burgers being ate around Snow White and her animal friends would be appealing, and I love me a good burger :hilarious: What do you all think?
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I thought someone said a dark ride slowly moving through the mountain and into Elsa's castle.

I'm actually not sure about Snow White anymore. :confused: I thought we were leaning towards a better version of the original Scary Adventures but using some of the same tech and scenes of the coaster?????:bookworm:
 
FigmentPigments

FigmentPigments

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MA Screamin' said:
Okay, but it'll be a rollercoaster, right, just like Seven Dwarfs?

After seeing that video, some parts feel congested to me, but I suppose that's by virtue of the style of ride we're going for. Everest has room because of big drops, etc. Still though, there will have to be the balance in the actual ride to counteract the forced perspective of the castle. That's my only complaint at this point, thanks for the clarification :)

Speaking of Seven Dwarfs, are there still plans for that coaster, as well? I think the consensus was that it was wanted, if the dark ride scenes were build upon to tell a fuller story, and if it was a tad darker, a la Scary Adventures... I want one, and then a small cottage quick-service, but only for things like pastries and coffee. I don't think seeing whopping triple-patty burgers being ate around Snow White and her animal friends would be appealing, and I love me a good burger :hilarious: What do you all think?
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Definitely not burgers. :p the pastries and coffee are spot on though. Special on Apple turnovers? ;)
 

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