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[englanddg]

Another idea if we decide to go this route...we really don't need a straight path to a hub and spoke. The castle could be looming across the harbor and you take a path to the lands similar to the design of Tokyo DisneySEA. Not sure how well it will work but just a late night thought.

The thing is, you want the reveal between areas. The Castle is a massive "destination" from the world of the past as you walk up Main St. to the world of fantasy...and from there you can branch off.

I see where you are going with this, and agree...but, be careful not to go too much into the DisneySEA concept...

It's still, at its base as I understand it...a Castle Park.

 

[D Hulk]

Off the cuff, but what about instead of a circling train (or in complement to it) there is a circling waterway that links the various water portions, and allows for another transit option within the park?

Do it in compliment with the train. Magic Kingdom parks NEED trains (c'mon, Shanghai!)! There's plenty of shared water transportation between the park's entire west side (Pacific Wharf, Frontierland, Critter Country, Adventureland). We could expand that to park-wide if we're going more DisneySea with this.

 

[englanddg]

Do it in compliment with the train. Magic Kingdom parks NEED trains (c'mon, Shanghai!)! There's plenty of shared water transportation between the park's entire west side (Pacific Wharf, Frontierland, Critter Country, Adventureland). We could expand that to park-wide if we're going more DisneySea with this.

I agree. Complementary. It could make for some rather interesting bridge transitions for the two modes as well, providing some unique landscape opportunities for both the train and the boats...

I do agree that a train berm is needed.

 

[spacemt354]

Personally I would like this to be a unique design (at least from other parks) and even myself I'm going more towards DisneySEA with basically different named lands

I guess one thing to discuss is with this new entry...how to reveal the castle.

 

[D Hulk]

I agree. Complementary. It could make for some rather interesting bridge transitions for the two modes as well, providing some unique landscape opportunities for both the train and the boats...

I do agree that a train berm is needed.

And depending on where we are with the ocean, the train could even sometimes travel on trestles over the waters (with a shore break beyond that acting as the berm for that area).

 

[englanddg]

Personally I would like this to be a unique design (at least from other parks) and even myself I'm going more towards DisneySEA with basically different named lands

I guess one thing to discuss is with this new entry...how to reveal the castle.

The entrance to a fantasy garden is...unique. I think you mentioned it earlier?

Just cut to the chase?

 

[spacemt354]

The thing is, you want the reveal between areas. The Castle is a massive "destination" from the world of the past as you walk up Main St. to the world of fantasy...and from there you can branch off.

I see where you are going with this, and agree...but, be careful not to go too much into the DisneySEA concept...

It's still, at its base as I understand it...a Castle Park.

You're right...one of the things I had with the old Colonial Concept was to go from New England...to Old England (which since Fantasia doesn't have a castle in the film...we were going to base the design of that castle off of old English architecture)

Now I'm trying to visualize going from Sydney to the castle

 

[englanddg]

And depending on where we are with the ocean, the train could even sometimes travel on trestles over the waters (with a shore break beyond that acting as the berm for that area).

Exactly! And it would be visually stimulating for those on the train, those passing underneath on a boat, and those taking in the scene itself.

Layers layers layers.

That's where I think Disneyland beats the socks out of WDW...they layer things so well (in Disneyland).

 

[englanddg]

Mind you, I'm not in the project, I'm just giving you all a sounding board and my opinions. I love what you all have put together, so please do not take this as anything more than that!

 

[englanddg]

You're right...one of the things I had with the old Colonial Concept was to go from New England...to Old England (which since Fantasia doesn't have a castle in the film...we were going to base the design of that castle off of old English architecture)

Now I'm trying to visualize going from Sydney to the castle

Not sure it works.

However, a berm with an entrance of Sydney (which is really nothing more than a facade, not an experience...maybe a few "pre-ticket" shops and restaurants or something...)...but after you pass the berm, you jump straight into an enchanted forest that blocks you from views of anything?

 

[spacemt354]

Mind you, I'm not in the project, I'm just giving you all a sounding board and my opinions. I love what you all have put together, so please do not take this as anything more than that!

They're very good suggestions! Much to think about!

 

[englanddg]

Idea being, you land, and in the ticket area, you already start the transition....into the past...to complement the berm, basically. From here you can take a boat or the train, or you can continue through the berm, and BAM....enchanted forest...

Flip the park around backwards, basically....

 

[englanddg]

You work your way through the enchanted forest, and find the central part (the castle, it is a castle park)...and work your way around from there.

Sortof a reverse analysis of the modern psyche, where imagination is actually more common, but reality and history is not. (ok, that is a bit political, but don't read into it)

 

[spacemt354]

Not sure it works.

However, a berm with an entrance of Sydney (which is really nothing more than a facade, not an experience...maybe a few "pre-ticket" shops and restaurants or something...)...but after you pass the berm, you jump straight into an enchanted forest that blocks you from views of anything?

An Australian authentic/enchanted forest? Featuring the Rescuers Down Under!

 

[D Hulk]

You work your way through the enchanted forest, and find the central part (the castle, it is a castle park)...and work your way around from there.

Sortof a reverse analysis of the modern psyche, where imagination is actually more common, but reality and history is not. (ok, that is a bit political, but don't read into it)

Been reading Baudrillard's analysis of Disneyland and false consciousness?

 

[englanddg]

An Australian authentic/enchanted forest? Featuring the Rescuers Down Under!

A highly underrated movie. @Voxel and I did an Animal Kingdom thing with it once.



An Aussie theme to the forest could be interesting...though the movie really didn't take place in the parts of Aussie where the rainforests are.

 

[englanddg]

Been reading Baudrillard's analysis of Disneyland and false consciousness?

Who and what?

 

[spacemt354]

A highly underrated movie. @Voxel and I did an Animal Kingdom thing with it once.



An Aussie theme to the forest could be interesting...though the movie really didn't take place in the parts of Aussie where the rainforests are.

This one right? It was good!

Challenge 3: The Countdown to Paradise

Team Air

This time around, every team has 24 hours to think up a new, cultured continent for Disney's Animal Kingdom. You have 20 sentences (no run-ons) or less and only 3 pictures to put your best on display.

Go crazy. As many rides, as many restaurants, as many shows, and as many shops as you want. Just make sure it all realistically fits within the park's current boundaries.

Furthermore, you are forbidden from developing outside of your new land, including tearing down current infrastructure. So, what will it be?

Australia: Wonders from Down Under
​

Australia is a land of beauty, amazing culture, fantastic animals, breathtaking vistas, and adventure.

Now, in an unprecedented attempt to capture what Australia is, Disney's Animal Kingdom is bringing all this to a new theme park experience.

The new continent coming soon, offers a variety of attractions that range from immersive animal encounters and cultural interactions, unique shopping and dining, and an exciting ride for all ages to enjoy!

The experiences include:

​

• 52 - Rescuers Down Under - The Ride
• 53 - Glendambo Outback Outfitters
• 54 - Glendambo Wallabe Festival
• 55 - Adelong Walkabout Trails
• 56 - Ballarat Petting Zoo
• 57 - Coolamon Restaurant
• 58 - Grong Grong Insect and Reptile House
• 59 - Kaaiti Voyage and Jungle Tour, indicated by black circles with dots on the map

This area will be located in the expansion plot next to Asia, just north of Yak and Yeti, and south of Rafiki's Planet Watch.


Guests will be able to access the area either by walking south from Rafiki's Planet Watch, walking south after exiting the Train Station, or walking north from the paths just past Yak and Yeti.



Additionally, all Cast Members in this area will be recruited from Australia, to add to the authenticity of your experience.



52 - Rescuers Down Under - The Ride



Based on the film, the fanciful ride is an omnimover that will take you into the world of the Rescuers, and through the basic plot points and scenes of the movie.



The ride vehicles will be similar to the Little Mermaid ride, allowing for grand vistas, as well as intimate scenes, to be portrayed.



The exterior will be themed to Uluru, the giant rock formation in the Australian Outback, and when combined with the surrounding area, complete the illusion and offer excellent photo opportunities.



53 - Glendambo Outback Outfitters



Themed as a shop in a small town in the Outback, this shop offers a variety of authentic wares, such as:

​

• Australian Clothes and T-Shirts
• Rainsticks
• Digeridoos
• Authentic Sweets, such as Tim Tams and Cherry Ripes
• Authentic Drinks, such as Solo and Bundaberg Root Beer
• Disney Themed Merchandise

54 - Glendambo Wallabe Festival



The small Outback town of Glendambo is celebrating the 10th annua Wallabe Festival, and you're invited to join in!



Two smoke pits sell grilled prawns off the barbie and other fare served on skewers, such as vegetables and beef, as you and your family enjoy hourly live shows that feature traditional Australian jokes, stories and songs around a large, wooden outdoor amphitheater.





55 - Adelong Walkabout Trails



An interactive walkthrough, you and your family will enjoy wandering these trails and discovering all about Australian wildlife through interactive exhibits and helpful Cast Members to inform you about the details of these delightful plants and animals through unique and interactive presentations.

56 - Ballarat Petting Zoo



This petting zoo will allow you and your family to meet and feed:

​

• De-venomed Platypus
• Penguins
• Koala with clipped claws
• Kangaroos
• Wallabees

57 - Coolamon Restaurant



Themed on the exterior as an Aboriginal Cultural Village, the interior of this restaurant offers three dining rooms and a unique menu that offers everything from seafood, to Australian savory pies, to steaks.



The three rooms are:

​

• Barrier Reef with live fish tanks with reef life table side
• Jungle outdoor eating on elevated platforms that overlook the jungle and river
• A small theater in the round with live Aboriginal entertainment

58 - Grong Grong Insect and Reptile House



A creepy and crawly attraction; this house, themed to a run down shanty in the outback, offers guests the ability to view the unique and amazing insects and reptiles of the Australian continent.



59 - Kaaiti Voyage and Continental Tour



Part transportation system and part show; the Kaaiti Voyage and Continental Tour serves to transport guests around the area, as well as inform them about the animals and plant life surroundingthem.



The highlight is the tour through Crocodile Valley, near the Coolamon Restaurant, as Guests will be brought close to these magnificent predators during their voyage.

 

[D Hulk]

Who and what?

Never mind. High-fallutin' philosopher in the 1960s saying something similar to what you said, only pretentiously.

 

[englanddg]

This one right? It was good!

Challenge 3: The Countdown to Paradise

Team Air

This time around, every team has 24 hours to think up a new, cultured continent for Disney's Animal Kingdom. You have 20 sentences (no run-ons) or less and only 3 pictures to put your best on display.

Go crazy. As many rides, as many restaurants, as many shows, and as many shops as you want. Just make sure it all realistically fits within the park's current boundaries.

Furthermore, you are forbidden from developing outside of your new land, including tearing down current infrastructure. So, what will it be?

Australia: Wonders from Down Under
​

Australia is a land of beauty, amazing culture, fantastic animals, breathtaking vistas, and adventure.

Now, in an unprecedented attempt to capture what Australia is, Disney's Animal Kingdom is bringing all this to a new theme park experience.

The new continent coming soon, offers a variety of attractions that range from immersive animal encounters and cultural interactions, unique shopping and dining, and an exciting ride for all ages to enjoy!

The experiences include:

​

• 52 - Rescuers Down Under - The Ride
• 53 - Glendambo Outback Outfitters
• 54 - Glendambo Wallabe Festival
• 55 - Adelong Walkabout Trails
• 56 - Ballarat Petting Zoo
• 57 - Coolamon Restaurant
• 58 - Grong Grong Insect and Reptile House
• 59 - Kaaiti Voyage and Jungle Tour, indicated by black circles with dots on the map

This area will be located in the expansion plot next to Asia, just north of Yak and Yeti, and south of Rafiki's Planet Watch.


Guests will be able to access the area either by walking south from Rafiki's Planet Watch, walking south after exiting the Train Station, or walking north from the paths just past Yak and Yeti.



Additionally, all Cast Members in this area will be recruited from Australia, to add to the authenticity of your experience.



52 - Rescuers Down Under - The Ride



Based on the film, the fanciful ride is an omnimover that will take you into the world of the Rescuers, and through the basic plot points and scenes of the movie.



The ride vehicles will be similar to the Little Mermaid ride, allowing for grand vistas, as well as intimate scenes, to be portrayed.



The exterior will be themed to Uluru, the giant rock formation in the Australian Outback, and when combined with the surrounding area, complete the illusion and offer excellent photo opportunities.



53 - Glendambo Outback Outfitters



Themed as a shop in a small town in the Outback, this shop offers a variety of authentic wares, such as:

​

• Australian Clothes and T-Shirts
• Rainsticks
• Digeridoos
• Authentic Sweets, such as Tim Tams and Cherry Ripes
• Authentic Drinks, such as Solo and Bundaberg Root Beer
• Disney Themed Merchandise

54 - Glendambo Wallabe Festival



The small Outback town of Glendambo is celebrating the 10th annua Wallabe Festival, and you're invited to join in!



Two smoke pits sell grilled prawns off the barbie and other fare served on skewers, such as vegetables and beef, as you and your family enjoy hourly live shows that feature traditional Australian jokes, stories and songs around a large, wooden outdoor amphitheater.





55 - Adelong Walkabout Trails



An interactive walkthrough, you and your family will enjoy wandering these trails and discovering all about Australian wildlife through interactive exhibits and helpful Cast Members to inform you about the details of these delightful plants and animals through unique and interactive presentations.

56 - Ballarat Petting Zoo



This petting zoo will allow you and your family to meet and feed:

​

• De-venomed Platypus
• Penguins
• Koala with clipped claws
• Kangaroos
• Wallabees

57 - Coolamon Restaurant



Themed on the exterior as an Aboriginal Cultural Village, the interior of this restaurant offers three dining rooms and a unique menu that offers everything from seafood, to Australian savory pies, to steaks.



The three rooms are:

​

• Barrier Reef with live fish tanks with reef life table side
• Jungle outdoor eating on elevated platforms that overlook the jungle and river
• A small theater in the round with live Aboriginal entertainment

58 - Grong Grong Insect and Reptile House



A creepy and crawly attraction; this house, themed to a run down shanty in the outback, offers guests the ability to view the unique and amazing insects and reptiles of the Australian continent.



59 - Kaaiti Voyage and Continental Tour



Part transportation system and part show; the Kaaiti Voyage and Continental Tour serves to transport guests around the area, as well as inform them about the animals and plant life surroundingthem.



The highlight is the tour through Crocodile Valley, near the Coolamon Restaurant, as Guests will be brought close to these magnificent predators during their voyage.

The fact you had that on quick draw...is disturbing...?

 

[spacemt354]

The fact you had that on quick draw...is disturbing...?

Or we were just talking about rescuers earlier today