JoeCamel
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Chapek and D'Amaro continue the tradition of no bonus or Christmas gift for Disney's Cast Members
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John park hopper
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I take it you are a comedy writer
PixarPerfect
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Plastic straws are the biggest non-issue for Disney theme parks in the USA.
Neither Orange County, California nor Orange County, Florida have landfills that have any refuse that gets close to an ocean. The trash in both Orange County, California and Orange County, Florida not only stays in the ground for the next 50,000 years, as it decomposes it creates gas that fuels a power plant. So the decaying trash of both counties with massive Disney theme parks in them actually creates electricity that allows Disneyland and Disney World to exist and use megawatts of electricity to light Castles and Matterhorns/Everests and Main Streets.
Landfill Gas
As the most economical renewable source of reliable energy, landfill gas is also reliable and sustainable, which is why it’s been part of the OUC energy portfolio since 1998.www.ouc.com
Orange County landfill creates energy from methane gas
The gas from a busy landfill in Irvine is now providing power to homes and businesses all over Anaheim.abc7.com
And yet Burbank pretends that millions of Disneyland and Disney World straws were once being flushed out to the Pacific and Atlantic oceans to get stuck in whale vent holes, which they weren't. But by removing straws from Disneyland and WDW restaurants, Burbank saves a few bucks and gets to pretend it's saving the planet
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Plastic straws, like many single-use plastic items, take hundreds of years to degrade. They're also not the items driving methane capture and aren't recyclable, so not such a hot argument in the above post. Compound millions of straws per year, every year, in a single location like Disneyland or Disney World, and we're talking about a lot of straws piling up in landfills in addition to oceans (along with plastic cuttlery, bags, and similar). So hundreds of years to break down that single straw used for that briefest of brief moment of convenience... Is it really that hard to drink without it?As for Christmas bonuses, I've never received one in an almost 30-year career. Nor have I received a corporate Christmas present. I've worked for some of the world's largest and best-loved brands through to executive level and never expected anything for Christmas. Gifts at the holidays aren't common with bigger companies. Profit-sharing after year-end? Sometimes with companies that share the love for tax purposes. But that's usually in March or April. Never for the holidays.
As for working on the holidays? That's part of being in the entertainment and hospitality world. I routinely work 60+ hours a week throughout the year and have had to travel to boring locations for meetings and events. That includes working and traveling over weekends and being in the office Monday morning. As a salaried professional, I have never received additional pay or time and a half for anything over 40 hours. Different jobs are cruddy for different reasons.
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ImperfectPixie
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I have to admit that I'm stunned at how few here have experienced Christmas bonuses. I've received one at every job I've ever had (save for one year when business was bad and money was tight). Bonuses are a means of a company showing appreciation for the contributions that their hard-working employees make to their success...seems like many in the corporate world could stand an education in what makes a company actually run...
Robbiem
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Thanks for sharing a really interesting read
I've read stories about cast sleeping in their cars , showering in company staff facilities not because of unable to pay rent but for at times a quick turnaround after a long shift then a few hours later going right back into work.
eliza61nyc
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Lol I don't think it's as simple as they don't know how to run a company.
We use to have a company Christmas party, when did they stop you ask... when a group of non Christian employees put in a grievance saying it was offensive.
Next, and I've seen this attitude here plenty of times, enough is never enough. People get a free turkey and complain it's not free park passes, give them free park passes , get complaints about how it's not cash and my favorite "they pay the CEO millions of dollars but can't give me a raise".
I guess I never got one nor expected one so it's not a biggie. My idea of showing appreciation? Fabulous pay, great health benefits and work/life balance. That's all I needed.
I will say we did get other incentives, for example if you had a patent that went to production you got a payout. Things like that.
I guess I'm more like "a Christmas gift is nice but it's not a barometer of the company if I didn't get one"
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Goofyernmost
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Not only that but my wife, an RN and head nurse in the Clinical Research Dept. of our local University supported hospital, was making less then I did as a Staff Sargent in the USAF. She moved down to the states because we paid more then the major hospitals in Montreal. Weird schedules abounded and almost no benefits except that it was a hospital so neither one of our children cost us anything in the form of a hospital charge. Even after she had her two Master's Degree's... one in Nursing and one in Gerontology could not make over $30K per year working as head nurse in an Alzheimer facility.
Here Here!!! Well said. My father ALWAYS worked two jobs, I put myself through college and NO job is beneath me.
matt9112
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Just call it the generic december 25th annual bonus....really easy fix.
ImperfectPixie
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My husband's company has nearly always given out bonuses, save for a two years when some consultant idiot told him to do give-aways instead...which amounted to spending a fortune of scratch tickets (that no one won anything off of), bottles of booze (great gift when you have a bunch of guys working for you who drink too much - one of whom went through DTs), etc. that were really just throwing away money. He finally went back to just giving everyone a check, and as I stated earlier, I was surprised at how generous he was this year and last.
I wouldn't even consider it a Christmas gift...more like a reward for my husband busting his behind all year and for going the extra mile when it was needed.
lazyboy97o
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I’m not surprised by people not experiencing it, but am always dismayed by the the sort of demand that companies not do things except treat their employees as poorly as possible.
Disney needs people. They’re offering hiring bonuses because they are having trouble attracting people. A winter holiday season bonus is the sort of thing that can help attract people who are necessary to keeping the operation running. And as much as people want to deny, Disney needs people on the front lines who work full time. They can’t operate all day, every day with students and retirees who just want some extra cash.
Cesar R M
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Its interesting how far some countries have gone with this concept. Like you can get full toppings pizza with these gigantic machines
Cesar R M
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I hope he does not claim to be a professional one. He would be in the streets already
Many companies nowadays seems to take that "effort" and "hard work" by taking that credit and bonuses for executive compensation.
ImperfectPixie
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EVERY company needs their lower-level employees. Can you imagine if Disney had to rely on Chapek and the other executives for everything that happens in the parks?
Goofyernmost
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Or a Because we love you end of year appreciation bonus. Parties always sucked anyway, and as a manager I was always having to break up a drunken argument or in a couple of incidents take a plastered underaged employee home to his Mother and Father when I didn't even know he was drinking. Other employee's thought it was funny to get a newbie drunk. If only they could have been the ones to explain to the parents how I didn't realize he was being given alcohol. I was so glad when we stopped doing that. Heck I even had to calm down the folks when the owner got drunk and handsy during it.
Bonus's in non-corporate jobs were there on occasion but few and small in size.
What it all boils down to is that many people either died during this pandemic (no, it wasn't just old people), but many took the opportunity to seek out new jobs and didn't return to the entry level positions. Now we are hearing about how bad it is finding people to make places like restaurants run. And even though it isn't a skilled job, wait services are vital. Just last night four of us went to Outback for a birthday dinner for my grandson. The restaurant was large and when we walked in there were no more then 12 customers and in spite of having many open tables we were force to wait. Why? Because they were understaffed and they had called in a person to help and he hadn't arrived yet. We only waited about 15 minutes before he apparently showed up. This guy was trying really hard but I don't think he every waited tables before. It took him two tries to even get the drinks right. One Sprite, One Diet Coke and two waters.
He took our order and had to come back 10 minutes later because he had lost the paper he had written our order on and asked us again what we wanted. One order was partially wrong when it arrived. My grandson ordered a combo with steak (medium) and chicken and he received Steak (cooked to shoe leather) and shrimp. We felt bad for him because even without our asking the Manager came over to apologize for all the screw ups. The meal did turn out to be very good and the problems just became something to chuckle about. It didn't affect his tip. He was doing the best he could. These places are going to have to realize the waiting tables in a higher priced place is really a skilled job if done right. And far more in need of proficiency then pointing two fingers toward the restroom or asking how many are in your party. Pay should reflect that and not be reliant on jacka$$ customers to give them enough money in a tip to make it worth their time, even if it isn't sufficient for full fledged suburban lifestyles.
Cesar R M
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Going with your question.. I now wonder...
Has anyone ever seen Cheapek with a trash bag or telescopic trash picker?
I've seen executives moving around the parks (last time I was by November of this year 2021.. there were quite a few execs going around in DHS and Animal Kingdom). I seen a few of them PICK trash with their bare hands using a napkin and putting it in trashcans.
ImperfectPixie
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They do. And the really sad part is that most of those executives are a dime-a-dozen and sleazebags to boot.I hope he does not claim to be a professional one. He would be in the streets already
Many companies nowadays seems to take that "effort" and "hard work" by taking that credit and bonuses for executive compensation.
ImperfectPixie
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But can they run a cash register? Would they know how to prepare a meal to meet someone's allergy requirements? Could they be Crush or Jack Sparrow and make some kid's trip to WDW a special memory for the rest of their lives? Can they run the rides?
I've met senior retirees working full time at Disney because some cannot survive paying monthly expenses collecting social security. One person I know from Europe vacationed at WDW. Commented on the amount of "senior citizens " working in the theme parks. I take it seniors don't need to work in Europe?