Chapek and D'Amaro continue the tradition of no bonus or Christmas gift for Disney's Cast Members

[Minnesota disney fan]

but here's the thing, it used to be a time where that's what happened. You got a crappy job and said to yourself, "oh hell to the naw" and made plans so you were not stuck in the job. "former" employees is the key. and if the company did not change they have huge turnover and great resignations.

Now people don't take any initiative, they talk about how XYZ got promoted but they didn't, how the company made billions of dollars but didn't "give" them any thing extra.

(again just my anecdotal experiences) My first few entry level jobs were Mcdonald's, a Christmas elf at the Macys department store on 34th street in NYC (lol as close to hell as possible while still living) and walmart. every last one were crappy, low paying jobs. all three made me see that I did not want to get stuck doing them any longer than absolutely necessary.

Okay, Eliza, I just have to ask!
What made your job as a Christmas Elf at Macy's as close to hell possible while still living?
LOL
I did laugh at this, but then wondered what in the world you went through to feel that way.
thanks if you decide to reply.

 

[eliza61nyc]

Okay, Eliza, I just have to ask!
What made your job as a Christmas Elf at Macy's as close to hell possible while still living?
LOL
I did laugh at this, but then wondered what in the world you went through to feel that way.
thanks if you decide to reply.

Lol back in the day "department " stores were where EVERYONE and their cousin did their shopping. We're talking before on line and before malls. Macy's at the time was synonymous with Christmas. So think MK on Christmas all stuffed into a department store. We had a huge "Santa land" where kids came to see Santa and parents brought toys. Our job was to try and keep order, get the kids in line to see the big guy and keep the department neat. Tall about on your feet for hours, screaming kids and parents coupled with a few thousand tourist trying to shop thanks to the Christmas window displays.

I still have PTSD from it

 

[John park hopper]

I can remember going to Macy's as a kid with my brother and parents on of all days a Saturday---- it was shear torture (wasted the whole day)for my brother and me I was 8 or 9 and my brother was 6 or 7. Bored to death and playing hide and seek in the cloths racks, which resulted in us getting yelled at for not behaving. I think that is why I tell my wife I go to the store to buy a specific thing ---she goes shopping and looks at everything ----- I refuse to go shopping-- I hate shopping.

 

[Cesar R M]

Plastic straws are the biggest non-issue for Disney theme parks in the USA.

Neither Orange County, California nor Orange County, Florida have landfills that have any refuse that gets close to an ocean. The trash in both Orange County, California and Orange County, Florida not only stays in the ground for the next 50,000 years, as it decomposes it creates gas that fuels a power plant. So the decaying trash of both counties with massive Disney theme parks in them actually creates electricity that allows Disneyland and Disney World to exist and use megawatts of electricity to light Castles and Matterhorns/Everests and Main Streets.

Landfill Gas

As the most economical renewable source of reliable energy, landfill gas is also reliable and sustainable, which is why it’s been part of the OUC energy portfolio since 1998.

www.ouc.com

Orange County landfill creates energy from methane gas

The gas from a busy landfill in Irvine is now providing power to homes and businesses all over Anaheim.

abc7.com

And yet Burbank pretends that millions of Disneyland and Disney World straws were once being flushed out to the Pacific and Atlantic oceans to get stuck in whale vent holes, which they weren't. But by removing straws from Disneyland and WDW restaurants, Burbank saves a few bucks and gets to pretend it's saving the planet for all the clueless Facebook Planeteers who think the USA is actually the problem when it's really Communist China and the rest of the Third World around the Pacific Rim who is flushing all their trash out into the ocean every year.

Brilliant! Burbank saves money, trendy yet clueless American housewives pat themselves on the back, and Communist China and Guatemala still flushes a lot of trash down their rivers to the ocean! It's a win-win-win!

Good point in that!!
Question: Do these plans use the waste food or also mix with other sources like byproduct of farms?

In the last aspect, you're right about the rest of the world.
Just a little non known aspect that not many know...
USA and most of the "1st world" countries ship most of their trash to countries like India and smaller countries.
There was a news that some countries were so full of trash that they had to put a stop of these imports.
Companies might make tiny profits of reusing or re-purposing some trash but the unrecoverable stuff and pollution is insane D:

Where does your plastic go? Global investigation reveals America's dirty secret

A Guardian report from 11 countries tracks how US waste makes its way across the world – and overwhelms the poorest nations

www.theguardian.com

Why some countries are shipping back plastic waste

More and more countries are refusing to be a "dumping ground" for wealthier nations.

www.bbc.com

Malaysia sent 4,120 tons of plastic trash back to 13 rich countries, saying it refuses to be the 'rubbish dump of the world'

Western countries have long shipped their trash to less wealthy Asian countries as they lack stringent environmental regulations.

www.businessinsider.com

Toxic E-Waste Dumped in Poor Nations, Says United Nations - Our World

With consumption of electric and electronic goods skyrocketing around the globe, so too is the amount of e-waste, says UNU collaborative research.

ourworld.unu.edu

So its not always the, "see, we're clean!" its about how its also "we just move all our trash from here.. and move over there."

 

[Cesar R M]

so before I answer, let me tell you a little about myself only because I think age and experience makes a difference in expectations. So I'm over 60, just retired and grew up in a different generation, I also always worked for big international fortune 100 companies. I do think smaller companies and small businesses have leeway to act differently . Now onto your question.

Yes I would probably be "alright". see I did not grow up expecting to "like" every aspect of every job, every day that I worked. I have done crappy jobs with crappy hours, forced over time and lousy pay and without whining that the company was evil and taking advantage of me.

I also grew up with the notion that NOTHING was owed to me except what I shook hands on. which usually meant my compensation. I especially did not expect "extra" simply because the company made money. So do this day, if I get a christmas gift from my boss it's very nice. If I don't get a bonus or Christmas gift that is also cool. again I didn't turn around and start crying that the company made a bunch of money and waa waa waaa they didn't give me a bonus. (this is just me)

Months of vacation? I'm in the US and when I retired this year after 33 years I did not have "months" of vacation. The only people I know who get months of vacation are teachers and policemen/women. and civil service employees usually take a long time to accrue that much vacay

again, when I worked entry level/minimum wage jobs NO ONE got vacation. you were never paid for time off. you could talk it but you didn't get paid and sorry a theme park operator is a low skill entry level job.

IMO the issue is this whole "every job" should get great pay/ full benefits etc etc. again flipping burgers is never going to be a high paying job with benefits. loading guest onto rides is not meant to be designed to be a 50K a year job with bonuses. Society puts values on jobs. waitressing will always be on the low end of the pay scale. I waitressed during college, yep forced overtime, crappy hours (including working holidays). the difference is now people expect that because they do it they should be making a nurses salary and be provided the lifestyle they feel they are entitled to.

Definitively seeing a big gap between cultural issues.
Where I live, by law you get a "bonus" every year that is technically expected and marked on the salaries and jobs.

Also.. wait a second, are you telling me that because you work low and minimum wage you should not get a vacation or rest?
And I wasn't saying "PAID TIME". I'm talking about a "I'm taking my X legal days of vacations by law and you cannot fire me for taking these".
Seems every country in the world have these.. except the USA? ()) or I'm wrong on this?


As for the rest.. yikes.. the complacency to bow down to corporations is .. yikes.. nevermind.. carry on

Elisa61nyc:
Just think if you looked at your first job at McDonalds as a life career where you would be today. We are close enough in age to have realized those were Not career jobs unlike many today who think it is and expect to be paid the mythical living wage. In my younger years I worked some crappy jobs. Thanks to the GI bill I got a college degree in a marketable field.

Serious question. Where you in consistent debt when working in your first minimum wage "back then"? Or where you be able to pay your bills?

I did not want to get stuck doing them any longer than absolutely necessary.

This is definitively one thing that stands out the most.
But if almost every job is like this.. how do you move upward then? you now require either high trained job which requires either work for free ( unpaid intern and bow down to jesus to hope you get hired once your time as intern is over) or go to college (and get in massive debt)

MOST folks knew when they took them they were part time or temporary. Actually they were usually taken by young kids either in school and in addition to other jobs.

Except everything is "entry" nowadays.
Have you seen the hilarious ads that are becoming more and more often lately? There are ads for people with 10+ years of exp, doctorate, 30+ certificates and the pay is barely above minimum wage.

Jobs that are clearly entry jobs (in both function and wage) now are requiring hilarious amount of requirements.

The fact that breaks this hilarious myth about "entry" jobs is that almost 50% of all jobs created are by default "entry".
In this case: 44% were erecorded. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-...nd-there-arent-enough-good-jobs-to-go-around/
Jobs that you claim are "not part time or temporary" are in the minority.

 

[Cesar R M]

I can remember going to Macy's as a kid with my brother and parents on of all days a Saturday---- it was shear torture (wasted the whole day)for my brother and me I was 8 or 9 and my brother was 6 or 7. Bored to death and playing hide and seek in the cloths racks, which resulted in us getting yelled at for not behaving. I think that is why I tell my wife I go to the store to buy a specific thing ---she goes shopping and looks at everything ----- I refuse to go shopping-- I hate shopping.

I always feared the infamous words of " Don't worry, I'm just shopping for this specific thing.. will only take 30 minutes".

And you know these 30 minutes were actually in the minimum.. 3 hours.

 

[eliza61nyc]

Definitively seeing a big gap between cultural issues.
Where I live, by law you get a "bonus" every year that is technically expected and marked on the salaries and jobs.

Also.. wait a second, are you telling me that because you work low and minimum wage you should not get a vacation or rest?
And I wasn't saying "PAID TIME". I'm talking about a "I'm taking my X legal days of vacations by law and you cannot fire me for taking these".
Seems every country in the world have these.. except the USA? ()) or I'm wrong on this?


As for the rest.. yikes.. the complacency to bow down to corporations is .. yikes.. nevermind.. carry on




Serious question. Where you in consistent debt when working in your first minimum wage "back then"? Or where you be able to pay your bills?



This is definitively one thing that stands out the most.
But if almost every job is like this.. how do you move upward then? you now require either high trained job which requires either work for free ( unpaid intern and bow down to jesus to hope you get hired once your time as intern is over) or go to college (and get in massive debt)

So here (Northeast U.S.) benefits and compensation are all over the place. outside of the minimum wage standard employees are pretty free to offer compensation as they see fit. Now there are some outside influences but there isn't any one "standard" that I could think of. Here most part timers don't get benefits. for example Amazon, they purposely keep folks part time so they don't have to pay vacation time and it takes a very long time to accrued sick time. so if you get sick say 3 months in, you take time off with no pay.
Even now many places get only a certain amount of say sick time. When I had my knee replacement done in Feb of 2020 I used up all my sick time so I had to go on short term disability.

Now here is where it gets tricky, a lot of these jobs are based on antiquated eras. So when I worked my minimum wage job and usually they are designed for this, I was a youngin. I was in my late teens or early twenties so my bills were minimal. A lot of these jobs were made for that age. When you work at Mcdonald's it's use to be as a teen/young adult and you worked it to get "experience" or to fund your first car. not to pay the rent. My sons started pumping gas as high schoolers. they knew this was simply an entry level job part time while they went to college. no way would working at Wawa even allow them to get an apartment in Philadelphia

You are right though, our college cost are insane and it's a problem we need to fix but again, I knew that if I wanted to live the kind of life I wanted (vacation, condo in Manhattan, lol) I could not stay as a retail worker. I just couldn't so for me going into debt was a price I was willing to pay

now there are many various ways, my siblings went into the Navy. Excellent choice for them. One made it a career than later went to work for the Pentagon. the other used G.I> benefits to go to college and went on to get his MBA and be a successful businessman.

 

[JoeCamel]

Lol back in the day "department " stores were where EVERYONE and their cousin did their shopping. We're talking before on line and before malls. Macy's at the time was synonymous with Christmas. So think MK on Christmas all stuffed into a department store. We had a huge "Santa land" where kids came to see Santa and parents brought toys. Our job was to try and keep order, get the kids in line to see the big guy and keep the department neat. Tall about on your feet for hours, screaming kids and parents coupled with a few thousand tourist trying to shop thanks to the Christmas window displays.

I still have PTSD from it

I have to ask how did you look in the elf suit?

 

[LaughingGravy]

Did you have to attend? You imply that it was "forced"... Typically, Chanukah is from late November to early December. Was the party during that time? The majority celebrate Christmas at this time of year. If you're in majority Islamic country, it's expected that they'd likely not celebrate Christmas. Rather, they would set time aside to celebrate Ramadah. Interestingly, I've noticed Asian countries celebrate Christmas areligously, focusing on Santa Claus and other traditions associated with the holiday. This is true in the US as well.

Seems that one is looking to be offended when they're boss is setting time aside for team building, even offering an end-of-year bonus. Note, a bonus is just that; something you didn't plan on getting. If you're depending on it, it has a different meaning for you.

It was a required attendance event with no team building, just a PowerPoint on company status. I was in sales and was hired with the explanation that bonuses are every year, but the amount varies depending on company sales for the year.

 

[eliza61nyc]

I have to ask how did you look in the elf suit?

Lol I wish I had a picture but remember this was the late 70s, a horrible fashion decade for sure, add to that I had this horrible "afro". I looked like a cross between little orphan Annie and Don King. It was not pretty

 

[TikibirdLand]

It was a required attendance event with no team building, just a PowerPoint on company status. I was in sales and was hired with the explanation that bonuses are every year, but the amount varies depending on company sales for the year.

If they called it a "party" but you considered it a "required event", then that's what it was. If it's called a "bonus", you can't count on it. Had the same thing going on when I was in sales back in the day. I remember being bummed that we didn't get a big bonus as the previous year. But, I think the term is really "profit sharing" produced as a bonus. But, whatever.

 

[matt9112]

No matter where you live somewhere else always looks better but Its swings and roundabouts.

Here in the UK I get 5 weeks of paid holiday in my job but I think we get less bank holidays. We have our National Health Service so don’t have to pay for a lot of health costs compared to the US but things like housing, food and fuel are more expensive so wages don’t go as far. College costs are also more expensive and a lot of the scholarships etc stateside don’t exist here. Wages have fallen in real terms a lot since 2008

I can’t complain myself as I work in a good job for the railway. A lot of people here aren’t so well off though working zero hours contracts and relying on food banks to get by. Growing up my father worked 12 hour days, seven days a week for a lot of the year so I know I’m lucky to be in the position I’m in.

Whata a zero hour contract?

 

[TP2000]

Lol back in the day "department " stores were where EVERYONE and their cousin did their shopping. We're talking before on line and before malls. Macy's at the time was synonymous with Christmas. So think MK on Christmas all stuffed into a department store. We had a huge "Santa land" where kids came to see Santa and parents brought toys. Our job was to try and keep order, get the kids in line to see the big guy and keep the department neat. Tall about on your feet for hours, screaming kids and parents coupled with a few thousand tourist trying to shop thanks to the Christmas window displays.

I still have PTSD from it

In downtown Portland, Oregon the biggest department store in town was Meier & Frank (now Macy's, like all the rest of America's once regional department stores). They had a thing called Santaland up on the 12th floor every Christmas, and it had a kiddy monorail train that hung from the ceiling and circled the entire toy department and the decorated area where Santa sat and greeted all of the good boys and girls in Portland. Portland's children were stuffed in the tiny monorail cars and sent on a winding route all over the 12th floor, looking out the little mesh windows down at the toy displays and Santa greeting spot below with proud parents waving up at them. Almost always, a few children in each car were crying and/or screaming in panic while some children beamed with pride and simply ignored their fellow crying passengers.

As a child in the mid 20th century, a trip on the Santaland monorail was mesmerizing to me, and Santaland and the monorail lasted until the early 2000's when Meier & Frank was bought out by Macy's. The big downtown store is now closed, along with the rest of downtown Portland that was destroyed and abandoned after the endless riots of 2020-2021.

But I can only imagine the PTSD that the employees had after working a season or two at Santaland, and I can somehow easily imagine the party they all had on December 26th when it was finally over for the year.

 

[TP2000]

Good point in that!!
Question: Do these plants use the waste food or also mix with other sources like byproduct of farms?

These landfill gas plants simply use the gas created by decaying matter, so whatever people throw away.

Here in Orange County, California, at least in my town, we don't have a dedicated recycling program. We just throw all our trash into the same bins and the truck picks it up once per week and throws all the trash into the same truck. What's funny is that each house gets three cans; one with a blue lid for regular trash, one for a grey lid for "recyclables", and one for a green lid for yard waste. Except it all gets dumped into the same truck all at the same time. So I literally just throw everything away and just haul out whatever can or two are the fullest each week. I think the trash company thought they might start doing a recycling program a few years ago, so they gave us all color coded trash cans, but it's been forgotten now. Trash is trash is trash here in OC.

The trash all gets taken to a landfill and dumped, and then as it decays over the next few years it turns into gas that fires a boiler that creates steam that spins a turbine to create electricity.

I do have a lady neighbor who composts much of her own kitchen waste to use as fertilizer for her rose bushes. But that's just a thing she does. And she does have some of the most beautiful roses and garden!

 

[JoeCamel]

These landfill gas plants simply use the gas created by decaying matter, so whatever people throw away.

Here in Orange County, California, at least in my town, we don't have a dedicated recycling program. We just throw all our trash into the same bins and the truck picks it up once per week and throws all the trash into the same truck. What's funny is that each house gets three cans; one with a blue lid for regular trash, one for a grey lid for "recyclables", and one for a green lid for yard waste. Except it all gets dumped into the same truck all at the same time. So I literally just throw everything away and just haul out whatever can or two are the fullest each week. I think the trash company thought they might start doing a recycling program a few years ago, so they gave us all color coded trash cans, but it's been forgotten now. Trash is trash is trash here in OC.

The trash all gets taken to a landfill and dumped, and then as it decays over the next few years it turns into gas that fires a boiler that creates steam that spins a turbine to create electricity.

I do have a lady neighbor who composts much of her own kitchen waste to use as fertilizer for her rose bushes. But that's just a thing she does. And she does have some of the most beautiful roses and garden!

Recycling is a lost cost program. It won't pay the recycler more than the cost of running it so it all goes to the landfill. The bottom dropped out a few years ago and there is little or no market for the goods.

 

[Robbiem]

Whata a zero hour contract?

Its a form of employment here in the UK where people don’t know if or how many hours they will work. Often they have to guarantee to be available to work so can’t take other jobs but have no guarantee they will work. Since 2008 it has become a much bigger way of employing people

Q&A: What are zero-hours contracts?

Ed Miliband has vowed to free workers from zero-hours contracts, but are they so controversial?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[larryz]

Its a form of employment here in the UK where people don’t know if or how many hours they will work. Often they have to guarantee to be available to work so can’t take other jobs but have no guarantee they will work. Since 2008 it has become a much bigger way of employing people

Q&A: What are zero-hours contracts?

Ed Miliband has vowed to free workers from zero-hours contracts, but are they so controversial?

www.bbc.co.uk

I could see that working as long as the employee is paid a retainer and provided appropriate benefits whether they work hours or not.

But to expect someone to be readily available without any compensation for that availability stinks.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

These landfill gas plants simply use the gas created by decaying matter, so whatever people throw away.

Here in Orange County, California, at least in my town, we don't have a dedicated recycling program. We just throw all our trash into the same bins and the truck picks it up once per week and throws all the trash into the same truck. What's funny is that each house gets three cans; one with a blue lid for regular trash, one for a grey lid for "recyclables", and one for a green lid for yard waste. Except it all gets dumped into the same truck all at the same time. So I literally just throw everything away and just haul out whatever can or two are the fullest each week. I think the trash company thought they might start doing a recycling program a few years ago, so they gave us all color coded trash cans, but it's been forgotten now. Trash is trash is trash here in OC.

The trash all gets taken to a landfill and dumped, and then as it decays over the next few years it turns into gas that fires a boiler that creates steam that spins a turbine to create electricity.

I do have a lady neighbor who composts much of her own kitchen waste to use as fertilizer for her rose bushes. But that's just a thing she does. And she does have some of the most beautiful roses and garden!

The only reason I know anything about this is because our town was offering curbside pickup for a relatively low cost as well as transfer station and recycling access also at relatively low cost. Out of the blue, in the middle of the summer maybe 3-4 years ago, they stopped offering curbside and residents had less than 2 weeks to find a new curbside service or to switch to bringing their trash and recycling to the transfer station...even though the price for access nearly doubled overnight. And let's not forget the trash bags you had to purchase to use the town curbside service - we ended up stuck with 4 packages of them (they were hugely expensive, a size that didn't fit a standard kitchen trash barrel, and they ripped VERY easily, to boot).

It turns out China decided to stop purchasing our recyclables. Because of this, the company contracted for the town curbside service tried to tack on $250,000 in fees to cover the new costs associated with getting rid of the recyclables, which was in violation of the contract the town had with them. (The town sued the company...I don't know the outcome.)

Not only did this cause huge hassles at the town level, but it's caused huge issues for recycling in the US overall and bankrupted many recycling programs (last I read up on the situation, there were recycling facilities all over the US with plastic, etc. just piled up because there's nothing they can do with it anymore without paying a fortune.)

Piling Up: How China’s Ban on Importing Waste Has Stalled Global Recycling

China’s decision to no longer be the dumping ground for the world’s recycled waste has left municipalities and waste companies from Australia to the U.S. scrambling for alternatives. But experts say it offers an opportunity to develop better solutions for a growing throwaway culture.

e360.yale.edu

 

[ppete1975]

New Disney Parks Chairman Josh D'Amaro is continuing with the tradition of giving absolutely nothing to the Cast Members for Christmas. In a year when many have been pushed to breaking point and moral is at an all-time low, there is nothing from the company to give any hint of appreciation, unless of course we count this Christmas message from Josh. I'm sure the cast are glad to hear he is proud of them for making the company billions once again.

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I think you watch too much TV. I have worked for several fortune 20 companies.. and have never received a christmas bonus. That may have been popular at one point (like when people retired and got gold watches). Yes lots of companies do have christmas parties or bonus's, but its not something to expect or get mad if you dont get one. You earn a wage, if thats enough for you then awesome, if its not and you expect things that you know wont happen, its time to look for another job.

 

[Cesar R M]

I could see that working as long as the employee is paid a retainer and provided appropriate benefits whether they work hours or not.

But to expect someone to be readily available without any compensation for that availability stinks.

I work in this kind of plan but I sell my availability. If you want me to be ready and have my time for you.. they have to pay.
Time is not free after all.

So I agree that no work hours, no logged hours, no pay and not able to work for other companies or do other tasks in the same time.. is ridiculous.