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Changes to dining plan for 2011
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blackthidot
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Sounds like a really dumb thing to do...PERIOD.
Ausdaddy
Active Member
To me, it appears that Disney just continues to focus on the infrequent/less frequent visitors and not those of us that attend consistently. They know that any of us can be replaced with a first time visitor and they won't see the problem with the dining plan. If we don't buy, it's no loss. They just sell it to someone else. I'm still not considering this change as fact, but it would be disappointing.
lilclerk
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The deluxe plan does include appetizers, the regular plan does not.
Dads 2 Boys
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Perhaps they may be adding the appetizer back in while dropping the dessert. :shrug: There would be a lot less wasted food.
PhilharMagician
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If this happens, I wouldn't count on it.
The plan the price went from $37.99 in 06' to $38.99 in 07' which both included appetizer, entree, desert. non alchoholic beverage and tips.
In 08' the price dropped back to $37.99, but in return you lost tips and appetizer. At this point the quality of the food offerings were also on the decrease. Taking away the $5 - $9 appetizer along with the approx 20% tip and this put the DDP out of the money saving catagory. Now the TIW card is more of a cost savings. Now the plan is $39.99 and they are looking to remove the desert? If this is true the only reason that makes sense is all of the free dining that is being offered is the sole reason for this reduction.
Just drop this evil dining plan and be done with it!
http://www.travelcitydirect.com/disney
If you click Disney Dining Plan 2011, have a look at the T and Cs at the bottom.
While it doesn't specify what you get in the table service the addition of another snack is worrying.
If you click Disney Dining Plan 2011, have a look at the T and Cs at the bottom.
While it doesn't specify what you get in the table service the addition of another snack is worrying.
Unfortunately that is not the case,it is now more expensive although it is being offered free to UK customers over a wider range of dates for 2011 than ever before.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the U.S. dollar gained significantly on the UK pound over the last year? If so, then maybe a price increase in the UK is not representative of what others can expect.
I agree with the person about planning the money -- for me, I also like the option of pre-paying. Of course, everyone's financial situation is different. Also, a number of hotels in Carribbean and such are going All-inclusive which the dining plan helps to compete a bit closer to something like this as a prepay option.
I understand why they removed the tips as there were discussions at the time around how the employees receive their money from the tips. I am ok with dropping desert but I do like an appetizer options -- I just wish they would have revised it to include the option of either an appetizer or dessert that you can chose at your actual dinner rather than be all of one or the other.
I personally like the dining plan.
I understand why they removed the tips as there were discussions at the time around how the employees receive their money from the tips. I am ok with dropping desert but I do like an appetizer options -- I just wish they would have revised it to include the option of either an appetizer or dessert that you can chose at your actual dinner rather than be all of one or the other.
I personally like the dining plan.
Buried20KLeague
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My guess is that when it was first introduced, it was positioned as a money-saving move for the consumer, and Disney's benefit was that the guest didn't leave property (more in-park time means more $$).
I would bet that now they're going to position it more from a "you don't have to worry about carrying money!!" standpoint than a savings standpoint.
I could see Disney almost considering that it's fair to charge a PREMIUM for the dining plan (meaning more than you'd normally spend at a dinner), because of its "ease of use".
That, and I'm sure they're banking on a huge number of people not knowing any better.
So basically, change the message and purpose, and lose a whole lot less money.
Sounds like TDO to me... :shrug:
I would bet that now they're going to position it more from a "you don't have to worry about carrying money!!" standpoint than a savings standpoint.
I could see Disney almost considering that it's fair to charge a PREMIUM for the dining plan (meaning more than you'd normally spend at a dinner), because of its "ease of use".
That, and I'm sure they're banking on a huge number of people not knowing any better.
So basically, change the message and purpose, and lose a whole lot less money.
Sounds like TDO to me... :shrug:
I agree - we've always thought a choice of app or desert would be optimal - we always find ourselves forcing desert down because it was there - and the value add for us is not worrying about the food budget every day...we paid for it - we know what the budget was and now we won't go over - instead of thinking about what we've spent and what's left in wallet all week.
MMFanCipher
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I agree with the above. We got the dinning plan mainly because it was prepay. I didn't have to carry hundreds of extra dollars or worry about having enough money for food for the entire trip.
mitchk
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This sucks if it turns out to be true My wife and I were upset when they changed the plan a few years back, but if this happens, no more DDP for us BTW, to those of you talking about having to carry a lot of money with you, Disney will just tell you to put charging priv. on your room key :fork:
My wife and I were upset when they changed the plan a few years back, but if this happens, no more DDP for us BTW, to those of you talking about having to carry a lot of money with you, Disney will just tell you to put charging priv. on your room key :fork:
MMFanCipher
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If I wanted to put the food on my Credit Card I wouldn't have bought the DDP!!
Figment1986
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I can see the advantage of removing dessert... A lot of people would get flled up on drinks, breadm and their main course that they would only have a few bites of their dessert. That and by removing dessert they would have the option of buying it, or leaving thus allowing a better turnover of tables not ordering dessert because they don't want any or dont want to pay more. (and it speeds up the kitchen on desserts for those who wanted some)
mitchk
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make sure you tell them that :wave:
mitchk
Well-Known Member
I see your point,:wave: but at the same time ... come on. The dinning plan has changed a lot from when it was first offered, and it seems like we keep getting less, and less (and the food quality has just gone down with it, along with the service). I was upset when they took away the appetizer, and gratuity (I think they should have just dropped the appetizer) now they want to drop the desert too. Man, it just seems like a rip off to me. I know there will be some people that say, "well if you calculate it all up your still saving money", but if I didn't buy the DDP, I probably wouldn't go out to a TS restaurant every day. If this is true, Im all for Disney dropping The Dinning Plan, maybe then I'll be able to have a few more meals at Canada while I'm there :slurp:
Edit: As far as Disney (or us) being concerned about the wasting of food, I have an idea. Instead of doing away with desert, because people might be to full to eat it, give the option of a desert that they can take with them (you can't put ice cream in a doggie bag, well you could, but it would melt) like a cake, or something of that nature. That way ... there is no wasted food. Animal Kingdom would be proud.
Hey, Figment 1986, you really do make a great point about the turn over of tables. I just miss the old DDP, I think the real problem started when they began offering it for free, that was when everything started to go downhill. Take care
disneyny
Member
I looked at what someone several posts above posted with the link and said for 2011 it may be 1 QS, 1 TS no dessert and 2 snacks instead of one. This could mean they are giving you a second snack instead of a dessert. That could be very interesting! Especially if they let you use the snack for desserts at TS. If this is the case you use your snack to get a dessert anywhere instead of having to take whatever the restaurant offered. To me this would be a plus IF they gave you 2 more snacks BUT in a sense they are taking away 2 desserts (QS and TS) and giving you 1 snack more in exchange. Sneaky and interesting. I will not do the DP again if they do cut the dessert. I am planning to go in 2/2011 so this will matter to me!
I would prefer the two snack credit over the TS and CS desert selections any day of the week. The desert selections at the CS are not all that good.