Celebrate the 30th Anniversary of Horizons!!!

Mrs.Toad

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This is how much the company loved Horizons. How sickening that they are trying to turn Horizons into a money maker after they demolished it. Hardly an anniversary.

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Gah! I still can't manage these pics. Saw some other ones and…well….

Sorry. I know in my last post people loved Kitchen Kabaret too. I love both. Food Rocks was so stupid and corny it grew on me.

I included that because it was last. KK had been removed before. I guess what I meant to express, and didn't do so clearly, was that even FR was better than taking it out of the Land and leaving nothing. Soarin has been showing its age. Love the ride and concept, time for a new, updated movie. And I just hope the boat ride never goes either. And I would prefer, not gonna happen, but I would like a TS sit down menu that changes from time to time like Coral Reef for the restaurant at the Land.
Because if people prefer QS, Sunshine Seasons provides that service/offerings.
 

Captain Neo

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"Hey we totally didn't know what we were doing and bulldozed a richly themed AA heavy ride with a positive message about the future and replaced it with a forgettable poorly funded space simulator that nobody goes on but you should totally celebrate the 30th anniversary of the ride we demolished in a hurry. We at least have a new t-shirt and thats going to make it all better" - The Walt Disney Company
 

Figments Friend

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So i am typing this after spending part of today visiting Flushing Meadows Park in NY. On a little side adventure...visiting a friend...and had to make the 'pilgrimdge' as a serious EPCOT Center mega-geek.
Home of the famous New York Worlds Fair site, and the still standing Unisphere, it was a great couple of hours wandering around with a vintage map book and finding all the spots where the old Pavilions used to be.
The original walkways are still there, along with many other notable statues and decorative features so it is not difficult to figure out the spots.

As any EPCOT fan knows, the New York Worlds Fair not only helped inspire the construction of WDW, but it most certainly inspired EPCOT Center...at least, the version that ended up being what was eventually built.

I cannot tell you how awesome it was to trace back those roots to this previous event, and stand there in front of the huge Unisphere and know this inspired Spaceship Earth.

How does this all tie into Horizons ....you are probably wondering that right about now.
Well, i will confess that the music from that attraction was swirling around in my head as i was walking around.
The futuristic tone of that Fair from the 60s, and the cool architecture that is still there in remnents ( and old photos ) really reflects the Horizons Pavilion in many ways.

Just a cool day...and i had to gush...and it related to Horizons...so....
There ya go then.

:)
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
So i am typing this after spending part of today visiting Flushing Meadows Park in NY. On a little side adventure...visiting a friend...and had to make the 'pilgrimdge' as a serious EPCOT Center mega-geek.
Home of the famous New York Worlds Fair site, and the still standing Unisphere, it was a great couple of hours wandering around with a vintage map book and finding all the spots where the old Pavilions used to be.
The original walkways are still there, along with many other notable statues and decorative features so it is not difficult to figure out the spots.

As any EPCOT fan knows, the New York Worlds Fair not only helped inspire the construction of WDW, but it most certainly inspired EPCOT Center...at least, the version that ended up being what was eventually built.

I cannot tell you how awesome it was to trace back those roots to this previous event, and stand there in front of the huge Unisphere and know this inspired Spaceship Earth.

How does this all tie into Horizons ....you are probably wondering that right about now.
Well, i will confess that the music from that attraction was swirling around in my head as i was walking around.
The futuristic tone of that Fair from the 60s, and the cool architecture that is still there in remnents ( and old photos ) really reflects the Horizons Pavilion in many ways.

Just a cool day...and i had to gush...and it related to Horizons...so....
There ya go then.

:)

Your visit sounded both pleasant and bittersweet at the same time. It's always thought-provoking when you take a stroll down memory lane. I found it fascinating that there are still some remnants of the old 60's World's Fair to be seen. Thanks for passing along your observations.
 

Figments Friend

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Your visit sounded both pleasant and bittersweet at the same time. It's always thought-provoking when you take a stroll down memory lane. I found it fascinating that there are still some remnants of the old 60's World's Fair to be seen. Thanks for passing along your observations.

Thanks Minnie.
I was actually surprised there was as much as there was left over from the Fair there.
Sure i had heard about a few things still being there, mainly the Unisphere and NY State Pavilion and Towers before visiting.
However, a lot of things like some of the status, fountain fixtures, and original walkways/roadways was a nice surprise.

The big plus was having in hand a old original retro 1965 'Guide Book to the Fair' that was published by Time. This was key to the visit, as it was used to pinpoint exactly where the old Pavilions used to be.
That was a HUGE help...not to mention touring with a local who knew his Fair history well.

It as really neat to stand at a crossroads in certain spots, and know CoP was once there...or the original Small World.
I had read so much about those original WED created attractions over the last three decades i just never dreamed one day i would visit the place where the birth of the idea for a 'East Coast Disneyland' moved from a proposition to a 'yes, we are going to build it' mode.
As fans know, the success of those attractions at that 'testing ground' caused plans to move forward to build what would become WDW and EPCOT.
Fantastic.


I highly recommend anyone interested in the World's Fair, or these famous Disney/WED attractions to pick up one of those neat Guide Books off of eBay.
I am told they are fairly commonplace and not too expensive.
There are some AMAZING color artwork adverts contained within the 65' addition related to the Ford Skyway, GE Pavilion and CoP, Small World, and a few mentions of Mr. Lincoln.
Worth buying just to get the ads,but the book is PACKED with info and some nice black n' white photos.
The Pavilion designs remind me so much of the classic EPCOT Pavilion designs.
So obviously inspired by what came before it....so freaking cool to boot..!

The two maps at the start of the book will look strangely familiar to any EPCOT fan, that is for certain.

So to bring this around back on topic, i can easily see Horizons fitting in exceptionally well at the NY Worlds Fair.
From the Show itself, to the Pavilion design, it just screams it to me now.
I wish EPCOT would try to recapture some of that feeling again....instead of being somewhat of a mish-mash of 'whatever' these days.
 
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Figments Friend

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I thought i would share a great comment i came across recently made by a fan named *Epcot Josh* on a dedicated Horizons fan Facebook Group.
What he posted there probably sums up most Horizons fans feelings on the matter, and EPCOT Center in general, and i felt his words were worth sharing with a larger audience.

So, here it is....and he cuts to the heart of the matter beautifully.

*I miss Horizons as much as anyone, but I don't want to see it rebuilt.
Instead, I want to see an attraction built that captivates people of all ages, inspires a generation to dream about the near future while empowering them to turn those dreams into reality.
That's what Horizons did, and there has not been a single attraction built since then that taps into that power.

To me, the biggest tragedy is not that Horizons is gone, but that it was replaced with a carnival ride.

If Horizons was a symbol of the American spirit that existed in the 80s, then perhaps Mission:Space is an equally accurate symbol of the uninspired, lazy, non-meritocracy that permeates the welfare state that we are turning into.*
 

CDavid

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I thought i would share a great comment i came across recently made by a fan named *Epcot Josh* on a dedicated Horizons fan Facebook Group.
What he posted there probably sums up most Horizons fans feelings on the matter, and EPCOT Center in general, and i felt his words were worth sharing with a larger audience.

So, here it is....and he cuts to the heart of the matter beautifully.

*I miss Horizons as much as anyone, but I don't want to see it rebuilt.
Instead, I want to see an attraction built that captivates people of all ages, inspires a generation to dream about the near future while empowering them to turn those dreams into reality.
That's what Horizons did, and there has not been a single attraction built since then that taps into that power.

To me, the biggest tragedy is not that Horizons is gone, but that it was replaced with a carnival ride.

If Horizons was a symbol of the American spirit that existed in the 80s, then perhaps Mission:Space is an equally accurate symbol of the uninspired, lazy, non-meritocracy that permeates the welfare state that we are turning into.*

Well said, and I agree, though I cannot go so far as to say I wouldn't want Horizons rebuilt (updated version of the original). Admittedly, however, it is very hard to see a practical rationale for rebuilding the original design when there is nothing left.
 

omurice

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If Horizons was a symbol of the American spirit that existed in the 80s, then perhaps Mission:Space is an equally accurate symbol of the uninspired, lazy, non-meritocracy that permeates the welfare state that we are turning into.*
RE Josh's quote -
I have to disagree, both are fairly optimistic attractions. M:S posits that we're exploring space, that's optimistic though the ride is disappointing - an advanced simulator with tiny screens, locked and harnessed in a 4 person cabin.
M:S gets a Pass on general optimism, a Pass on thrills (if you're thrilled by being spun around), but a Fail on inspiring, and an Incomplete on whole family able to ride.

No arguments M:S is mediocre in its execution. And no arguments here that Horizons was awesome too, total agreement. But leaping from those opinions (which I share), into the "America is doomed" scenario - relating the tone of Disney attractions to the Fate of the Nation is impractical.
We got a lack-luster attraction, but it does not follow from that since I miss Horizons, the country is doomed.
 

bhg469

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I am really fascinated by mission space but I wish it was just an addition to horizons and not a replacement. Its just so sad to see all these attractions close and re open as a new thrill, when a refresh would be more popular.
 

Figments Friend

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One of the nicer collectibles released in recent years was this neat pin -



Sure the 'retro' design adds to the appeal, but what is really neat is the fact this was a pin that had a inner rotating wheel.
You could literally 'Choose Your Own Ending' by moving the wheel's edge and revealing the various Horizons destinations in the small window located in the center of the pin.

Worth picking one of these up second hand....if you can find one.
 

bhg469

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One of the nicer collectibles released in recent years was this neat pin -



Sure the 'retro' design adds to the appeal, but what is really neat is the fact this was a pin that had a inner rotating wheel.
You could literally 'Choose Your Own Ending' by moving the wheel's edge and revealing the various Horizons destinations in the small window located in the center of the pin.

Worth picking one of these up second hand....if you can find one.
Really cool but it still burns my biscuits to see disney profit on something the bulldozed for a fancy simulator.
 

Figments Friend

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Really cool but it still burns my biscuits to see disney profit on something the bulldozed for a fancy simulator.

Yes, it does sometimes make a fan a little irritated.

I can relate.
All the references and merch associated with the Original 'Journey Into Imagination' attraction over the last few years.
Just this morning, i opened up my e-mail Inbox and saw a D23 article about the Dreamfinder.
( article here - https://d23.com/ask-dave-answers-102613-011314/?CMP=EMC-eml&att=20140206_D23_FanFare )

Yeah, it is nice it is being remembered, but it is also a painful reminder at times of what was lost.
Yes, Disney has come to realize the mistake it was to close it.....but when is something of substance going to come forward besides merch and articles that might help replace what was lost?

I am sure Horizons fans can relate.
For some, 'Misson:Space' fails to evoke that desired substance.
Other may feel differently, but although i enjoy experiencing it once in a while it cannot hold a candle to the depth and overall creative substance of what came before it.
 

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