News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Streetway]

Yep, in that if we have the first American female president, it stays for 4 years with a new AA. In any other scenario, it switches to Muppets.

So there’s a chance MV3D closes and the muppets are just GONE from wdw?

 

[Architectural Guinea Pig]

And would it not be possible to move Lightning McQueen’s racing academy to the new Cars Land just for thematic congruity?
It’s a cute little show, but every time I’ve seen it it’s been mostly empty…maybe 40-50 people. I’ve always figured it was it’s a. too hidden behind RNRC, and b. housed inside a rather nondescript building.

It will still be empty if they move it there. Would be better to just move the animatronic into a pre-show room.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Putting Monstropolis in Muppets Courtyard is the current path.

Tom C. disagrees with you.

And I HOPE YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!

But this is Disney and the worst decision is usually the Disney decision.

 

[corran horn]

This is Disney. There's nothing sacred here.

If you want sacred, head up the road to the Mary Queen of the Universe shrine.

This is a business that literally closed the Holy Land.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

It's also incongruent with the rest of Frontierland, which people have convinced themselves means rocks and trees, so it all fits, even if they're shaped like car parts and traversed by anthropomorphic cars.

This is what I keep coming back to when people talk about this being a beautiful area themed to nature. It's not really, it's themed to a world in which cars with big eyes and cartoon smiles are the only living creatures and natural formations take on the shape of car parts. That's what they're putting down in the middle of what is now Frontierland and Liberty Square, not Grizzly Peak.

At any rate, this really just has me feeling that maybe the Disney parks are just big, tacky tourist traps as their critics always argued. In the past, there seemed to be enough idiosyncrasy, ambition, and creativity to make them interesting (at least to me) in how, for example, the Magic Kingdom mapped out a very American mythology and view of the world as filtered through the mind of Walt Disney or with EPCOT Center they attempted to create a World's Fair-style vision of optimism driven by technology and innovation. Even the evocation of different times and places in the resorts was at least fun. Once they start replacing the legacy lands of Magic Kingdom with lands based on films that currently make them a lot of revenue in merchandise sales, that version of the parks seems even further in the past than it was. That's also true at the resorts where you're now going to bed looking at Moana or The Incredibles.

That said, I'm not really a 'theme park guy' as much as I was in to Disney parks. For me, most of what gets built these days with single IP lands doesn't excite me as it seems to excite a lot of people, whether it's at Disney or Universal, because I generally don't care enough about any of the IPs to want to drop a ton of money or spend a lot of time wandering through three dimensional recreations of them. But, I guess I am not the market for the parks as they are now and probably not for the older parks as they begin to be remade along this model.

 

[nicb88]

This is what I keep coming back to when people talk about this being a beautiful area themed to nature. It's not really, it's themed to a world in which cars with big eyes and cartoon smiles are the only living creatures and natural formations take on the shape of car parts. That's what they're putting down in the middle of what is now Frontierland and Liberty Square, not Grizzly Peak.

At any rate, this really just has me feeling that maybe the Disney parks are just big, tacky tourist traps as their critics always argued. In the past, there seemed to be enough idiosyncrasy, ambition, and creativity to make them interesting (at least to me) in how, for example, the Magic Kingdom mapped out a very American mythology and view of the world as filtered through the mind of Walt Disney or with EPCOT Center they attempted to create a World's Fair-style vision of optimism driven by technology and innovation. Even the evocation of different times and places in the resorts was at least fun. Once they start replacing the legacy lands of Magic Kingdom with lands based on films that currently make them a lot of revenue in merchandise sales, that version of the parks seems even further in the past than it was. That's also true at the resorts where you're now going to bed looking at Moana or The Incredibles.

That said, I'm not really a 'theme park guy' as much as I was in to Disney parks. For me, most of what gets build these days with single IP lands doesn't excite me as it seems to excite a lot of people, whether it's at Disney or Universal, because I generally don't care enough about any of the IPs to want to drop a ton of money or spend a lot of time wandering through three dimensional recreations of them. But, I guess I am not the market for the parks as they are now and probably not for the older parks as they begin to be remade along this model.

So well put, this is exactly how I feel and was struggling to articulate.

 

[peter11435]

How? How can you possibly guarantee that?

Because there will be water, water features, and waterfalls.

 

[larryz]

We all hope The Liberty Square Reiverboat will not be destroyed, but this is Disney, so....

Riverboat.....................................................................................................Reiverboat

 

[Streetway]

God. The future of Disney parks sounds so bleak.

 

[lentesta]

i don’t suppose they would be up for converting Starcruiser into office space and using the former Animation building as a gateway into Monstropolis, eh?

I texted someone inside the company on Sunday with "Now that the Galaxy's Edge timeline is broken, can we get a Darth Vader character breakfast?"

They texted back a compliment on how smartly I was dressed.

And would it not be possible to move Lightning McQueen’s racing academy to the new Cars Land just for thematic congruity?
It’s a cute little show, but every time I’ve seen it it’s been mostly empty…maybe 40-50 people. I’ve always figured it was it’s a. too hidden behind RNRC, and b. housed inside a rather nondescript building.

*cough* @wdwmagic *cough*

 

[Beacon Joe]

For Villains Land? That’s not going to be open in 5 years - they may start building it in 5 years haha.

Someone remind me. How many years did this company take to build a small pedestrian bridge connecting the Grand Floridian to the MK walkway?

 

[lentesta]

Tom C. disagrees with you.

And I HOPE YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!

But this is Disney and the worst decision is usually the Disney decision.

I could end up being wrong. As it stands today I'd bet Muppets Courtyard.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I could end up being wrong. As it stands today I'd bet Muppets Courtyard.

So Muppets 3D will be destroyed?

 

[mattpeto]

Yep, in that if we have the first American female president, it stays for 4 years with a new AA. In any other scenario, it switches to Muppets.

We have thought along those lines in the past, but HoP has hung in there.

Are the Muppets about to takeover the Hall of Presidents?

The Hall of Presidents closed on January 17 back in 2017 to update the show with the new president.

www.wdwmagic.com

 

[Streetway]

I could end up being wrong. As it stands today I'd bet Muppets Courtyard.

Why do you think Tom is so steadfast on it? He’d be the first person to rally for this at the slight sniff of this going.

 

[Tha Realest]

Muppets probably makes more money though. But that’s another debate in another thread! Haha

Disney likely makes more off of Simpsons merchandise sales at Universal - where they have multiple storefronts dedicated to The Simpsons - than they do in Disney parks.

Where is the dedicated Muppets store in the Disney parks located?

 

[KDM31091]

Because there will be water, water features, and waterfalls.

But will there actually be? They love to promise these things and not deliver, unfortunately. I guess we will see. I sure hope some water is kept and utilized.

 

[Bleed0range]

It’s difficult to have nostalgia for a park that you can no longer recognize, I feel like they should really stop taking things away to add things.

 

[KDM31091]

God. The future of Disney parks sounds so bleak.

Because it is. They want the parks to basically be permanent ads for Disney+. If you are not actively buying food, merch, or LL, they don't care about you. They do not want you just roaming around and relaxing and enjoying. You are just a number who exists to be monetized as much as possible. This does sound bleak but this is how corporate Disney views things. It's no longer about the guest experience but just how much money you are worth.

Because us diehard fans are passholders and sometimes locals, we're at the bottom of the priority list. DVC too, they already have our money. They don't care what we think because we continue to go anyway. A shiny new Cars land will attract that family from Colorado for their once in a lifetime trip for ten grand. That's all Disney cares about now. Not whether it fits, not whether it makes sense, just whether in the short term it will boost attendance.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Muppets probably makes more money though. But that’s another debate in another thread! Haha

The way TWDC does business, it seems they don't care about making money with the exception of pick pocketing their theme park guests.