corran horn
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BTMRR and the current riverboat loading building as diagnostic to the concept art, this is a hell of a lot of land. We'll perhaps be able to walk in a line-of-sight from BTMRR to HM.
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hopemax
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I think everyone just assumes it is the Liberty Square references, which IMO, is so closely tied to Frontierland due to the River that it doesn't register as something unique to get worked up about. There is angst about LS, in every post about Frontierland, even if left unsaid.
Mr. Sullivan
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Disneyland’s Frontierland has a better Big Thunder Mountain, the explorer canoes, the Columbia, Farasmic!, and a lot less dead space.
Tokyo’s is aesthetically much more lush and better laid out. It is the one that is closest to Magic Kingdom’s and therefore ranks lower but it’s use of space is far better.
Paris’ is the best one to me. The most beautiful, the best BTM in the world, an actual live show in the theater, and Phantom Manor.
Hong Kong’s version is very separate thematically but Grizzly Gulch is absolutely beautiful in evert way.
Magic Kingdom has the lowest tier BTM (it’s good but not on the level the rest are), no live entertainment (unless you count the new Bears show I guess), a ton of dead space because it’s bigger than it needs to be, and a really awkward layout.
psherman42
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How? How can you possibly guarantee that? And they “may have water” but one or two waterfalls and a small stream will not make up for what we are losing. And I can’t believe anyone actually believes it does.
FettFan
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See now this would make too much sense.
The riverboat is PERFECT for traversing LS…heck it’s the one thing that would actually compliment Tiana’s Bayou Adventure in that area. You could even bring back the Tiana musical show.
It also would help shield the new land’s sightlines from the HM queue, AND give a new area to relocate the Native American village.
So easy even a caveman can do it.
lentesta
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I will bet money that HOP is as good as gone. The US election likely determines how long it has left. And I really do think the leading idea right now is The Muppets Present Great Moments in American History.
@marni1971 Wasn't there some discussion about a National Treasure thing in this area?
Beyond that, I'd refer you to the thread on Monstropolis for other closures, and this article from The Wrap yesterday.
Putting Monstropolis in Muppets Courtyard is the current path. That can change, but it's pretty late in the process. My guess is there's about a week to come up with a viable alternative and explain why taking a month to re-do the paperwork is worth, you know, cutting $5M in Lightning Lane revenue right off the top of the financials.
bmr1591
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Its going to be a sad day when the Liberty Square Riverboat is dragged back stage and destroyed.
I hope they use it somewhere, whether as a prop at Port Orleans or retheme it as a ship in Villains Land.
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FettFan
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I would hope they somehow move it to Disney Springs. I know that’s a big ask though.
ctrlaltdel
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I do think there will be a pretty significant attempt to create a new berm for this with trees and a trench. It certainly hurts the sightlines the most from LS since it is attempting to tie-in more with Big Thunder's aesthetic.
Moth
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Death waits for no one. I don't expect we'll see any of the Big Dogs (Pirates, Mansion, Small World, Big Thunder) get got, but I feel anything else is a valid target currently, especially since what I'm picking up is that either Adventureland or Tomorrowland is up next.
Yep, in that if we have the first American female president, it stays for 4 years with a new AA. In any other scenario, it switches to Muppets.
lentesta
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I was giggling just to use the Samuel L Jackson meme. Thank you.Tbh, I should have clarified my statement-"to anyone here who is younger or newer to WDW that has never lost something they love...". Trust me, I'm still bitter about Horizons and Communicore. I appreciate the young man part, though. I haven't been a young man in about 30 years so I like it.
Big Thunder isn't in any danger. Whether or not we like any enhancements remains to be seen, but the coaster stays.
SirLink
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If they do replace HoP for The Muppets - their will be backlash not from park fans so much but from the the press with headlines like "Disney hates Liberty", "Disney's unAmerica", etc. Disney has just got over the bad press from their controversial takes and then to take another punch of their own making is foolishness though.
Kamikaze
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The last thing they built was a coaster, and then they're building a Monsters coaster.
Coasters are popular, but they're not for everyone as evidenced by attendance at coaster heavy parks (Cedar Point, etc)
This is Disney. There's nothing sacred here.
If you want sacred, head up the road to the Mary Queen of the Universe shrine.
Kamikaze
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No... you target the biggest audience and hope for everyone to enjoy it.
Its the same reason new resort hotels are not overflowing with theming - because the majority doesn't always want that.
dennis-in-ct
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Send it to Paris !Its going to be a sad day when the Liberty Square Riverboat is dragged back stage and destroyed.
They need it
Disstevefan1
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We all hope The Liberty Square Reiverboat will not be destroyed, but this is Disney, so....