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[FettFan]

Blue: maintained as is, potentially with a walkway to the island (Retheme to somthing eg woodys roundup).

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See now this would make too much sense.

The riverboat is PERFECT for traversing LS…heck it’s the one thing that would actually compliment Tiana’s Bayou Adventure in that area. You could even bring back the Tiana musical show.

It also would help shield the new land’s sightlines from the HM queue, AND give a new area to relocate the Native American village.

So easy even a caveman can do it.

 

[lentesta]

I’m surprised that Marni’s warning earlier in this thread that we’re not done losing beloved attractions didn’t warrant more conversation…

Hall of Pres? Or are they mad enough to do something to Big Thunder? Or something so crazy we can’t even imagine it yet…

I will bet money that HOP is as good as gone. The US election likely determines how long it has left. And I really do think the leading idea right now is The Muppets Present Great Moments in American History.

@marni1971 Wasn't there some discussion about a National Treasure thing in this area?

Beyond that, I'd refer you to the thread on Monstropolis for other closures, and this article from The Wrap yesterday.

Putting Monstropolis in Muppets Courtyard is the current path. That can change, but it's pretty late in the process. My guess is there's about a week to come up with a viable alternative and explain why taking a month to re-do the paperwork is worth, you know, cutting $5M in Lightning Lane revenue right off the top of the financials.

 

[bmr1591]

Its going to be a sad day when the Liberty Square Riverboat is dragged back stage and destroyed.

I hope they use it somewhere, whether as a prop at Port Orleans or retheme it as a ship in Villains Land.

 

[larryz]

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Pull up a milk crate and sit a spell, young man.

There are people on this thread who have park ponchos older than you.

Half of them have said "I'm still upset about If You Had Wings" to their therapist.

The "Bring Back World of Motion" club meets on Tuesdays at 8. Bring a covered dish.

Some of us still read the "Save the Adventurer's Club!" thread every October...

 

[FettFan]

I hope they use it somewhere, whether as a prop at Port Orleans or retheme it as a ship in Villains Land.

I would hope they somehow move it to Disney Springs. I know that’s a big ask though.

 

[ctrlaltdel]

BTMRR and the current riverboat loading building as diagnostic to the concept art, this is a hell of a lot of land. We'll perhaps be able to walk in a line-of-sight from BTMRR to HM.

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I do think there will be a pretty significant attempt to create a new berm for this with trees and a trench. It certainly hurts the sightlines the most from LS since it is attempting to tie-in more with Big Thunder's aesthetic.

 

[Moth]

I’m surprised that Marni’s warning earlier in this thread that we’re not done losing beloved attractions didn’t warrant more conversation…

Hall of Pres? Or are they mad enough to do something to Big Thunder? Or something so crazy we can’t even imagine it yet…

Death waits for no one. I don't expect we'll see any of the Big Dogs (Pirates, Mansion, Small World, Big Thunder) get got, but I feel anything else is a valid target currently, especially since what I'm picking up is that either Adventureland or Tomorrowland is up next.

 

[wdwmagic]

I will bet money that HOP is as good as gone. The US election likely determines how long it has left. And I really do think the leading idea right now is The Muppets Present Great Moments in American History.

Yep, in that if we have the first American female president, it stays for 4 years with a new AA. In any other scenario, it switches to Muppets.

 

[lentesta]

Tbh, I should have clarified my statement-"to anyone here who is younger or newer to WDW that has never lost something they love...". Trust me, I'm still bitter about Horizons and Communicore. I appreciate the young man part, though. I haven't been a young man in about 30 years so I like it.

I was giggling just to use the Samuel L Jackson meme. Thank you.

 

[wdwmagic]

Or are they mad enough to do something to Big Thunder?

Big Thunder isn't in any danger. Whether or not we like any enhancements remains to be seen, but the coaster stays.

 

[SirLink]

I will bet money that HOP is as good as gone. The US election likely determines how long it has left. And I really do think the leading idea right now is The Muppets Present Great Moments in American History.

@marni1971 Wasn't there some discussion about a National Treasure thing in this area?

Beyond that, I'd refer you to the thread on Monstropolis for other closures, and this article from The Wrap yesterday.

Putting Monstropolis in Muppets Courtyard is the current path. That can change, but it's pretty late in the process. My guess is there's about a week to come up with a viable alternative and explain why taking a month to re-do the paperwork is worth, you know, cutting $5M in Lightning Lane revenue right off the top of the financials.

If they do replace HoP for The Muppets - their will be backlash not from park fans so much but from the the press with headlines like "Disney hates Liberty", "Disney's unAmerica", etc. Disney has just got over the bad press from their controversial takes and then to take another punch of their own making is foolishness though.

 

[Kamikaze]

Then they should be building a steel coaster there.

The last thing they built was a coaster, and then they're building a Monsters coaster.

Coasters are popular, but they're not for everyone as evidenced by attendance at coaster heavy parks (Cedar Point, etc)

 

[larryz]

To all of the people that are completely OK with this change, I will say this: sooner or later, Disney is going to rip out the attraction/land/area that you think is sacred, that you love, that you think is integral to the parks. Only then will you understand how we feel about this change.

This is Disney. There's nothing sacred here.

If you want sacred, head up the road to the Mary Queen of the Universe shrine.

 

[Kamikaze]

But you don't build for the majority.
That's creating down.
The majority doesn't know what's good.
You build, create etc., and hopefully the people recognize it.

No... you target the biggest audience and hope for everyone to enjoy it.

Its the same reason new resort hotels are not overflowing with theming - because the majority doesn't always want that.

 

[dennis-in-ct]

Its going to be a sad day when the Liberty Square Riverboat is dragged back stage and destroyed.

Send it to Paris !
They need it

 

[Disstevefan1]

I hope they use it somewhere, whether as a prop at Port Orleans or retheme it as a ship in Villains Land.

We all hope The Liberty Square Reiverboat will not be destroyed, but this is Disney, so....

 

[FettFan]

Putting Monstropolis in Muppets Courtyard is the current path. That can change, but it's pretty late in the process. My guess is there's about a week to come up with a viable alternative and explain why taking a month to re-do the paperwork is worth, you know, cutting $5M in Lightning Lane revenue right off the top of the financials.

i don’t suppose they would be up for converting Starcruiser into office space and using the former Animation building as a gateway into Monstropolis, eh?

And would it not be possible to move Lightning McQueen’s racing academy to the new Cars Land just for thematic congruity?
It’s a cute little show, but every time I’ve seen it it’s been mostly empty…maybe 40-50 people. I’ve always figured it was it’s a. too hidden behind RNRC, and b. housed inside a rather nondescript building.

 

[FettFan]

We all hope The Liberty Square Reiverboat will not be destroyed, but this is Disney, so....

Yeah, we also hoped the Earful Tower would be reconstructed either outside the Studios gates or at DS.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Send it to Paris !
They need it

I am sure there are many entitles in the US that would love to have the Liberty Square Reiverboat!

The lawyers and accountants will tell Disney what to do with the Liberty Square Reiverboat.

 

[hopemax]

Death waits for no one. I don't expect we'll see any of the Big Dogs (Pirates, Mansion, Small World, Big Thunder) get got, but I feel anything else is a valid target currently, especially since what I'm picking up is that either Adventureland or Tomorrowland is up next.

Outside of those, I didn't know what would qualify as "beloved." The one I think has the strongest universal attachment is the WDW Railroad. If they have metrics that finally reopening didn't change any key metrics, so they can safely eliminate the operations without meaningful blowback, and all this impending construction... The next tier of beloveds, I'd put Jungle Cruise, Peoplemover, Tiki Room and Carousel of Progress. JC had it's rehab and seems to do well with LL, size of Tiki makes it hard to increase numbers meaningfully and justify the change. Peoplemover, has to operationally be annoying, with the speedramp and track. And the Carousel has been discussed so many times I think even hardcore fans are like, "Just let it die and end it's suffering, if you are going to mistreat it so badly." Anything else, is like, "when you've already had your arm cut off, what does it matter to lose a finger?" Treehouse? MS Vehicles? Astro Orbiter? Already lost the will to resist.