News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Rando question.....would it have been possible to drop a Grizzly River Rapids clone right on top of Tom Sawyer Island? Just curious.

I think so but It wouldn't move merch.

 

[V_L_Raptor]

Especially with the two Monsters concept arts being two different areas of HS- a lot of these plans were likely rushed to announcement so they had a "beefy" presentation. They know EU is kicking their butts and they wanted to one-up them, but by withholding the info on what we're losing (and every single WDW announcement minus Villains is confirmed to be taking the place of something- and Villains easily could be doing that too) it just makes them look so weaselly. They know people love the Rivers and Muppets but didn't want to get booed.

Which... For anyone who was wondering why this was streaming just to Fortnite and cast/imagineers... Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[TheRealSkull]

Also, I just noticed in your plan that Villains isn't using any of the back half of the river- so why not put Cars there? I feel like if Cars is taking the front half, then Villains is taking the back half.

Technically it's not mine. Found it somewhere else. That would be ideal, but they aren't doing it.

 

[Raineman]

Disney - on these boards you have a whole lot of people who usually disagree, agreeing that this is awful. Take note.

Disney considers people like us a fringe minority, and they know that the majority of the WDW crowd are casuals that will love anything Disney shoves down their throat.

 

[mickEblu]

Disney considers people like us a fringe minority, and they know that the majority of the WDW crowd are casuals that will love anything Disney shoves down their throat.

I think removing the ROA falls outside of the “only the crazy fans care” group.

 

[Quietmouse]

I’m speaking on the incredible theming of the Wilderness Lodge being brought to the park. I think if done correctly that alone would be a huge win for everyone. Maybe I’m seeing the vision of the concept art differently then some people but what I see are depth, forced perspective, scale, theming (separate the current area of LS and HM), and a variety of natural elements. I’m imagining how this land will look from BTM, it seems to be a natural valley in the park.

And to everyone saying the ATV’s will be loud and take away the ambiance, what if they are EV’s? So much is unknown at this point but I’m just delving into what I see and what I see is an area that has the look of being something special. AND it isn’t even the most spectacular thing on the docket (Villians!). It’s like an appetizer.

Hundred percent agree. It’s a natural fit for frontier land. Everyone is so focused on the ip attached, but I could care less because the ride itself is very interchangeable to whichever ip they want to rethink in the future.

I think if done right, this could be the perfect juxtaposition between a pleasant, beautiful forest, and “accidentally strolling” into s nightmarish forest that gets darker and darker the more you continue to walk thru until it reveals itself as villains land.

 

[Raineman]

I think removing the ROA falls outside of the “only the crazy fans care” group.

I think it does somewhat, but with the comments I've seen so far, here and on social media. there are alot of people applauding this change and passive-aggressively shaming those of us that don't like this. Those are the people that Disney loves. In that sense, this is like Splash/TBA all over again.

 

[ednamodedarling]

If COCO does eventually come ... is it kore likely for BBT or Epcot at this point?

 

[mickEblu]

interesting.

@Brer Oswald those emojis can be misinterpreted! He might think you’re sad at the thought of Cars not going into Frontierland.

 

[Gusey]

Here's the thing though, Disney must have numbers for how many people visited Tom Sawyer Island and the Liberty Belle. If you love an attraction, make sure you experience it every time you visit to get the numbers up. Before this announcement, there was very little public love for Tom Sawyer Island and the Rivers of America and any vlog I've seen featuring those attractions, they appear to not be very busy?

 

[mickEblu]

I think it does somewhat, but with the comments I've seen so far, here and on social media. there are alot of people applauding this change and passive-aggressively shaming those of us that don't like this. Those are the people that Disney loves.

Those people applaud EVERYTHING Disney does. They could replace the castle with a giant middle finger and they’d be ok with it. But I don’t think they re the majority.

 

[duncedoof]

Fantastic perspective.



"I remember when my family started going to Disney, it felt like there were *so many* lesser-known secrets to discover that kept us coming back. Interactive card games & scavenger hunts, pin trading, Hidden Mickeys, little museums & exhibits, beautiful secluded spots to chill out.

No, that stuff isn't all must-do for the family there for one day trying to max out their number of attractions-ridden. But the obscure things were *why* my family often desired more days at the parks, and kept coming back. Because there were little treasures to stumble upon too. [...]

It gives you a sense of agency and identity in a theme park to know that you can discover the things *you* like to do and enjoy the experience in a way that's different to others. When everything is a super must-do attraction with a 120-minute wait, there are no hidden gems.

In terms of hidden gems, Tom Sawyer Island & The Riverboat were the pinnacle of that idea to me. Some people have said "you never ride them," but I do. Every time. Because when I go to a theme park, I'm not just interested in rides—I'm interested in atmosphere, beauty, discovery..."

 

[Dear Prudence]

Here's the thing though, Disney must have numbers for how many people visited Tom Sawyer Island and the Liberty Belle. If you love an attraction, make sure you experience it every time you visit to get the numbers up. Before this announcement, there was very little public love for Tom Sawyer Island and the Rivers of America and any vlog I've seen featuring those attractions, they appear to not be very busy?

At Disneyland they're always slammed (which I loooove)

 

[Nickm2022]

I'm not upset with the idea of moving Frontierland more towards the nature of the American west but more why they're doubling down with cars instead of giving1 cars ride and 1 of something new. My hope is at least this Cars ride is a new ride system/veichile.

I also think COCO now no longer coming to Frontierland and the concept art for the DCA looking so much the 3 Callebreros makes it likely it will eventually come to the Mexico pavilion

 

[Quietmouse]

Here's the thing though, Disney must have numbers for how many people visited Tom Sawyer Island and the Liberty Belle. If you love an attraction, make sure you experience it every time you visit to get the numbers up. Before this announcement, there was very little public love for Tom Sawyer Island and the Rivers of America and any vlog I've seen featuring those attractions, they appear to not be very busy?

The problem is less about the attraction themselves but rather about the long wait times for loading and unloading and how hard it was to get to Tom Sawyer island and once getting there having nothing substantial to do.

The other problem is Disney world is expensive. Just 4 days for an average family of 4 will run you close to 4k dollars. Maybe more families would be willing to do TSI and the river boat but when your vacation is only 4 day and you are rushing to the next experience then the boat and island become an easy skip.

 

[kevlightyear]

For those wondering why the facades of existing buildings don't look quite right in the artwork...

 

[Incomudro]

Poseidon Entertainment just did a video on Disney resorts, really lauding the best it has to offer but ending with disappointment at the current trend of blander looking ones they're making, or the choices to do things like slap The Incredibles everywhere on the Contemporary, that sort of thing. It's a pretty great launching off point for discussions of "what IS Disney?" to most people - like, to me Disney is a series of design choices and styles. Ergo, something like the Yacht and Beach Club is interesting because it's that Disney style's take on those very things, the Wilderness Lodge is the Disney style's take on a mountain resort, etc. You get some characters here and there, mostly around the gift shops, but it's not overbearing.

The newer stuff is pretty much generic hotel towers, but with Disney characters drawn on some surfaces or what have you, and now it's bleeding over into the previously built hotels (e.g. "throw Beauty and the Beast into our 'Florida in the Victorian Era' themed resort because...reasons!"). I suppose to some that makes it "more Disney", but I think a stronger case can be made that it's abandoning a lot of Disney design principles, thus making it less Disney than it was before, even if that feels strange since it involves an increase in the number of visible Disney characters.

I watched that video last night.
While I don't always agree with him, I was all in on that one.

 

[DisneyNittany]

Not saying I like this, but it sort of makes sense to me.

I had been wondering how they were going to attempt to transition between Fantasyland to Villains and from the American desert to Villains, and had assumed that it would be through a scary/haunted forest. So, turning Frontierland into a more American Northwest/US National Parks theme helps them get there easier.

Now, I still don't really know how Cars fits, but the thematic change I guess makes sense if that's the thought process.

 

[easyrowrdw]

I’m speaking on the incredible theming of the Wilderness Lodge being brought to the park. I think if done correctly that alone would be a huge win for everyone. Maybe I’m seeing the vision of the concept art differently then some people but what I see are depth, forced perspective, scale, theming (separate the current area of LS and HM), and a variety of natural elements. I’m imagining how this land will look from BTM, it seems to be a natural valley in the park.

And to everyone saying the ATV’s will be loud and take away the ambiance, what if they are EV’s? So much is unknown at this point but I’m just delving into what I see and what I see is an area that has the look of being something special. AND it isn’t even the most spectacular thing on the docket (Villians!). It’s like an appetizer.

Sure, I understood what you meant. My opinion is that such a feat is impossible when you have Cars in Frontierland. It doesn’t matter how great the fake mountains and waterfalls and real trees look.

The Safari is a wonderfully designed attraction with great care and attention applied to the entire thing. It’s amazing. But if Tow Mater was your tour guide it would be absurd.

 

[Bleed0range]

I’m really upset about ROA too, but to be a bit more optimistic… I am intrigued by what this ride is. Is it made to just look off road or will it actually be like real dirt paths? Is this some kind of trackless thing? If so how does that even work without being down every day when if one thing is slightly out of whack on Rise it goes down?