News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Yellow Strap]

Thank you! Was 12:50 AM my time. But my first BBC Radio interview! So excited.

And wow, that's a great show. Very smart people.

I'll be tuning in tomorrow as I love it hear your dulcet tones on my way to work. Very excited to hear your thoughts and analysis.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Disney's doing what it thinks will maximize the money it makes for shareholders over the next 5-ish years.

This stuff won't even be built in five years.

 

[wdwmagic]

Isn’t Dynamic Attractions dead?

They just opened a new office 20 minutes from MK

 

[KDM31091]

WOW! Ok...this gets me really excited. Also, if the cars are "covered" it could conceivably operate in some rain.

that’s the other issue. Execs seem to be ignoring the climate in FL. This ride will seemingly have tons of downtime for rain.

 

[DW Aficionado]

I think the main issue is the fact that it’s hard to imagine how this land will look like once the river is gone because we are used to it being there.

Maybe the Cars area will be very pretty and enhance Frontierland, maybe it will be atrocious, none of us can know for sure because we are talking about something that doesn’t exist and that hasn’t existed yet. The only thing we DO know is that it will be different and that it will take time to get used to it once it opens regardless of how you feel about the final product because part of your mind will still be thinking about how it looked before.

Nonetheless, I do think that some of you are being hyperbolic. It’s okay to feel disappointed and wish they had gone on a different direction. It’s also okay to be ready to embrace change and accept the inevitable. But when it gets to name calling and such, it’s a little ridiculous…

All the other parks have a water area: Animal Kingdom has a water loop, Hollywood Studios has the pond where Gertie is, and Epcot has the lake. I'm afraid that MK will lose it's identity and just become a park jammed with rides

 

[Yellow Strap]

that’s the other issue. Execs seem to be ignoring the climate in FL. This ride will seemingly have tons of downtime for rain.

I'm sure they are aware of the climate. We will see...

 

[Yellow Strap]

This stuff won't even be built in five years.

It might...They heard those complaints. TA will be open by 2027

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

All the other parks have a water area: Animal Kingdom has a water loop, Hollywood Studios has the pond where Gertie is, and Epcot has the lake. I'm afraid that MK will lose it's identity and just become a park jammed with rides

We see water in the concept art still. There will still be water.

 

[Yellow Strap]

All the other parks have a water area: Animal Kingdom has a water loop, Hollywood Studios has the pond where Gertie is, and Epcot has the lake. I'm afraid that MK will lose it's identity and just become a park jammed with rides

I see lots of water features in the art, including what looks like a huge waterfall.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

I find it unfortunate that we are regularly reminded about the blessing of size at the Walt Disney World Resort, but new attractions always come at the expense of existing attractions.

WDW is blessed with size, but the company is not blessed with skilled management (and hasn't been since Frank Wells died).

 

[ToTBellHop]

So basically we lost the ROA because they hate us?

It’s more complicated than that. We all knew access to the new expansion around RoA would be very challenging to hook up, and it was becoming cost-prohibitive to build everything there at this point. So, instead, they will replace the area that makes access to the expansion so challenging, set up much of the expansion to hold construction materials, and then have it set aside for further expansion in the decades ahead instead of basically using all of their expansion space for a few rides. I actually think they are planning for the future pretty well even if I do wish we could keep the RoA.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Again, this is not accurate.

Florida Building Code, Accessibility:

• 201.1.1 requires vertical access to all levels
• 202.3 requires updates to spaces being altered
• 221.1.1 reiterates the requirement for vertical access in assembly spaces (restaurants are assembly per Florida Building Code, Building 303.3)
• 226.2 requires dispersion of accessible dining surfaces

And again, trying to have even employees carry a bunch of food up and down narrow stairs is a recipe for disaster.

 

[osian]

Thank you! Was 12:50 AM my time. But my first BBC Radio interview! So excited.

And wow, that's a great show. Very smart people.

What station and programme was it? I guess Radio 4?

 

[Starship824]

It’s more complicated than that. We all knew access to the new expansion around RoA would be very challenging to hook up, and it was becoming cost-prohibitive to build everything there at this point. So, instead, they will replace the area that makes access to the expansion so challenging, set up much of the expansion to hold construction materials, and then have it set aside for further expansion in the decades ahead instead of basically using all of their expansion space for a few rides.

I guess so. But what was stopping them from at least keeping the water front and docking the river boat and just doing bridges to get the new area. Why do have to remove the entire area. Why can't we have a compromise?

 

[spresso81]

The fact they killed off ROA and are spending more money to do so shows the true make-up of Disney corporate.

I hope all the people cheering this or mocking the people who do not like the decision enjoy riding the Moana boat ride which should have gone to Adventure land in their dreams (as it has been rumored to have been cut for this ROA kill vs Beyond BTM).

We could have had Moana, Cars, Villains and kept ROA. As TD2000 said in another thread, if they really cared about guest experience throw some of the lost ROA experiences back (2nd riverboat and keel boats).

 

[ToTBellHop]

I guess so. But what was stopping them from at least keeping the water front and docking the river boat and just doing bridges to get the new area. Why do have to remove the entire area. Why can't we have a comprise?

They need it all for the four rides they’ll build. If they kept some river, we’d claim the Cars E-ticket was too short.

 

[Raineman]

They need it all for the four rides they’ll build. If they kept some river, we’d claim the Cars E-ticket was too short.

Four rides? Where was this confirmed?

 

[Horizons '83]

Four rides? Where was this confirmed?

Assuming they are talking about Cars + Villains

 

[jason976]

Which is part of the problem. They’re fuzzy because they probably know when budget cuts hit they’ll be the first to go. Just like the fountain in World Celebration (which for what it’s worth, I actually think overall is an improvement over what was there before. Which should tell people something about how willing I am to defend Disney) This just feels like a massive miss. RoA is a feature of every castle park around the world, it is part of what makes the parks special. And they’re just going to pave over it. And for Cars. I’ll admit the area looks nice, if it actually ends up looking like the concept art (which it won’t because it never does). But put it literally *anywhere else.

People can do whatever mental gymnastics they want to justify putting cars in between Liberty square, Frontierland, and HM but to me it makes no sense.

And what hurts the most is they knew this would be unpopular. They knew it’d be controversial which is why they didn’t announce it at d23. They knew it’d be unpopular and they don’t care. They’re going to plow ahead anyway.

I have no actual hope of this happening but it’s the first time I’ve actually wished for a project to get scaled back from the concept art. Scale it back to keep the front of the river and LB and build behind.

Here again - you are assuming the people who are excited are doing “mental gymnastics” to justify this instead of just admitting that we just disagree. I was immediately excited for this and I still am. I’m not forcing myself or doing mental gymnastics. See

I appreciate your comment and do not take it as combative. I think there are things to look forward to here with this. I am not lamenting the loss, necessarily, of TSI. I think dropping Cars land - which I think will be BEAUTIFUL; I adore Carsland DCA - against the backdrop of what’s there already just feels very incongruent. Then the solution becomes, what do we now need to do to change LS and HM and all those areas to mesh well with Cars land.

I don’t begrudge anyone for being excited and hopeful. In my mind, it’s not worth getting worked up over because some of us seem to care about certain aspects of this stuff more than the designers themselves.

Really appreciate the response. Sometimes everyone respecting others people’s stances and values is all this board needs. (And this country for that matter) . Now let’s all hold hands and sing a round of “I’d like to buy the world a coke….”

 

[THEMEPARKPIONEER]

Universal is keeping their lagoons tho

There making more lagoons and water features, moping up what Disney has abandoned and I think it’s a great move.