el_super
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You do if you have to get on a boat to enjoy it.
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You do if you have to get on a boat to enjoy it.
SteamboatJoe
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There is something tragically poetic and symbolic about an auto-centric land replacing a relatively "natural", historic portion of the park.
MaximumEd
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For a one minute ride across the river? How busy and pre-planned is your day?
Kind of makes you think it was intentionally *designed* not to be super packed/busy. Apparently that means it’s “unpopular” and no-one likes it.
DarkMetroid567
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People holding on to the past and fearing change, using context as justification for rejecting change
Just look up the average town hall or community meeting on an apartment development, like in San Francisco. You’ll find that it sounds a lot like this discussion.
DCLcruiser
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Sorry, I updated my last post, as I confused you with the other poster.
I just don't think TSI is fantasy. Maybe it was cool in the 70s and 80s. I've never been eager to go as a kid of the late 80s/early 90s.
doctornick
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Um, Splash?
George Carpenter
New Member
I'm glad they left lots of room for future expansion. Villains could definitely grow which is something that few other lands can do.
eddie104
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Let’s be honest the ROA and Tom Sawyer Island we’re pretty much a blank canvas for Disney to work with.
Most people are lamenting the loss of serenity and relief in a crowded park like the MK.
Unfortunately Disney does not see it that way and whether utilize it for something most guests will use.
I’m not saying those areas were of waste of space but if you want more capacity you need to use the areas you current have to their fullest potential especially an area that’s 95% empty land.
Most people are lamenting the loss of serenity and relief in a crowded park like the MK.
Unfortunately Disney does not see it that way and whether utilize it for something most guests will use.
I’m not saying those areas were of waste of space but if you want more capacity you need to use the areas you current have to their fullest potential especially an area that’s 95% empty land.
If the Epcot re-do had worked, I would have given them the benefit of the doubt with this one. However, the disaster of that - along with all the new resort hotel towers invading sight lines, the shilling of IP where it does not belong, the Las Vegas attention to surface glitz - has showed me that Disney has lost its way. When money is NOT dictated by the stock market, you get the artistry of Tokyo Disney. When the stock market rules you get a frontierland of rocks and no water. Symbolic.
lazyboy97o
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While building out the other side of the path would create a stronger pedestrian experience, it would do so in isolation and in contradiction to the story. Frontierland doesn’t have a lot of chronological separation from Main Street, USA. The shootout on Main Street is a classic western trope. But Frontierland wasn’t telling an urban story like Main Street, USA. Even with these new attractions, it’s still supposed to be telling a story of great expanses of land. Adding a second block creates a very urban typology.
DCLcruiser
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I like Frontierland. I like BTMR. I just don't think national parks are on the same level as TSI/RoA. Even as a kid in the 90s I never had any interest in TSI.
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SteamboatJoe
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To be honest, I care more about the riverboat than the island itself.
Beacon Joe
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Kind of makes you think it was intentionally *designed* not to be super packed/busy. Apparently that means it’s “unpopular” and no-one likes it.
I've sort of suspected that's why they often didn't run the keel boats.
"There is no merchandising or calculable ROI on TSI." --> "Let's not run the keel boats every day because why would we shunt guests to a location with no ROI." --> People can rarely get on boats to TSI --> "See, nobody goes to TSI." --> Kill it and pave it over for gift shops"
el_super
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Kind of makes you think it was intentionally *designed* not to be super packed/busy. Apparently that means it’s “unpopular” and no-one likes it.
The crux of the issue: people weren't utilizing this desperately needed space. Either it's not as needed as people want to think, or the burdens to utilizing it were too high. Either way the result is the same.
Splash wasn't popular because of the IP.
UNCgolf
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Eh, AirBNB and other corporate investment schemes are as much, if not more, to blame for this.
More importantly, this is a theme park, not a city.
Sir_Cliff
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Maybe it's just me, but don't roads and cars kind of take the charm and romance out of the wilderness? Do people really go to the real wilderness and wish that there were more roads and the sound of cars whizzing by? If so, I guess Disney is creating that fantasy for them.
V_L_Raptor
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Give it time. Eventually they'll decide those waterfalls are as difficult to maintain as the old Tomorrowland ones, and they'll be taken out of service. Why build something to maintain it, after all?
