News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[doctornick]

I wish WDW would get a similar treatment- replacing Tom Sawyer with a new theme while keeping the island in tact. I don't care for Tom Sawyer either, as I'm sure most people nowadays agree with, but the island serves a great purpose to the parks.

Yeah, it would be simple to keep the island generally intact but changing the theme and name. there's nothing sacrosanct about it being "Tom Sawyer" if that is what the issue is.

 

[Drdcm]

I hope Scott doesn’t loose the inside scoop status

 

[el_super]

The crowds at DL and WDW are completely different. And, no, I don't think that people at DL are "enjoying" RoA/TSI more than at MK - the island there is just as sparse when I have visited it.

The island at Disneyland got a complete re-theme 15 years ago. Certainly there were problems there.

It's been 8 years since they shortened the river too. Let's not pretend it's safe either.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Well they are also getting rid of Great Moments with Mr Lincoln and replacing it with a Walt Disney show at Disneyland so they are erasing American history from the parks. Nothing is sacred to these IP hounds

It really scares me having them create an animatronic of Walt.

 

[pwnbeaver]

Anyone who thinks we are losing a massive source of theme park beauty needs to go to Disneysea to see what actually beautiful theme park water features look like.

The concept art, if executed, is significantly more beautiful than what was there before. The rides are a net positive and add capacity that will actually be used, leading to lower wait times around the park (except as Cars, which will be the most popular attraction in WDW). This also starts to differentiate Magic Kingdom, which feels pathetically weak compared to Disneyland and TDR if you've been to them. Shanghai actually feels different as a castle park, I would like Magic Kingdom to as well.

I do think that losing water is not a good idea, but the concept art for Villains is adding some and they seem to be keeping a bit near BTMR. I would bet on the Piston Peak facade containing a handful of moving water features that bring a similar feel with more flow and motion.

This is completely different to losing Star Tours/Muppets, which would just make DHS even weaker. This, an announced and shown, makes Magic Kingdom better. This plus Villains makes Magic Kingdom truly great. A redo of Tomorrowland is the next step.

 

[Midlife Mouse]

Place this ride in Test Track, Pixar Land, Tomorrowland Speedway, or almost any one of the World Showcase countries ("Cars around Italy/Germany/America") and there would be almost no complaints.

I think there would be tons of complaints if it were in Epcot. An entire Cars Land in DHS would be amazing, though.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Anyone who thinks we are losing a massive source of theme park beauty needs to go to Disneysea to see what actually beautiful theme park water features look like.

The concept art, if executed, is significantly more beautiful than what was there before. The rides are a net positive and add capacity that will actually be used, leading to lower wait times around the park (except as Cars, which will be the most popular attraction in WDW). This also starts to differentiate Magic Kingdom, which feels pathetically weak compared to Disneyland and TDR if you've been to them. Shanghai actually feels different as a castle park, I would like Magic Kingdom to as well.

I do think that losing water is not a good idea, but the concept art for Villains is adding some and they seem to be keeping a bit near BTMR. I would bet on the Piston Peak facade containing a handful of moving water features that bring a similar feel with more flow and motion.

This is completely different to losing Star Tours/Muppets, which would just make DHS even weaker. This, an announced and shown, makes Magic Kingdom better. This plus Villains makes Magic Kingdom truly great. A redo of Tomorrowland is the next step.

give us an example of concept art of something they announced at WDW turned out like that

 

[duncedoof]

Anyone who thinks we are losing a massive source of theme park beauty needs to go to Disneysea to see what actually beautiful theme park water features look like.

The concept art, if executed, is significantly more beautiful than what was there before. The rides are a net positive and add capacity that will actually be used, leading to lower wait times around the park (except as Cars, which will be the most popular attraction in WDW). This also starts to differentiate Magic Kingdom, which feels pathetically weak compared to Disneyland and TDR if you've been to them. Shanghai actually feels different as a castle park, I would like Magic Kingdom to as well.

I do think that losing water is not a good idea, but the concept art for Villains is adding some and they seem to be keeping a bit near BTMR. I would bet on the Piston Peak facade containing a handful of moving water features that bring a similar feel with more flow and motion.

This is completely different to losing Star Tours/Muppets, which would just make DHS even weaker. This, an announced and shown, makes Magic Kingdom better. This plus Villains makes Magic Kingdom truly great. A redo of Tomorrowland is the next step.

Ah. Everyone who thinks water in Florida looks beautiful should instead check out Water, Japan.

Got it.

 

[doctornick]

Well, an insider posted earlier(don't remember who)that after cars and villains the rest of the land bbt is slated for another expansion. If that's the case and they are thinking long term then they did need to do this.

TBF, I think it was more along the line that the additional land "could" be used for future expansion and is still available, not that there were explicit plans to do so now or in the short term.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

It really scares me having them create an animatronic of Walt.

Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll haunt the figure and shout obscenities at Iger every show. Or better, walks offstage and into corporate headquarters to kick him in the nuts.

 

[Midlife Mouse]

I have a feeling that's just a little lagoon to help the edges of Big Thunder which was designed to look good up against a shoreline.

On a similar topic, it's going to feel weird having land creep right up to Tiana's splashdown area.

Others have said it, I'll say it too: Glad they didn't do this to DL, but in all honesty, WDW's Frontierland was never clicking correctly for me. Maybe because more money and effort was put into Liberty Square? (The dinky Frontierland sign didn't help.). Maybe because it never got Western River Expedition? Maybe because it never had more animated vignettes along the river bank - it always felt a little lazy, like, "Florida swamp will be sufficient atmosphere here in the back." And, on a similar note, the WDW river isn't a respite like it is in Anaheim. You want to relax riding a real boat on Floridian waters? WDW still has a few options like that.

In any case, it's becoming "American National Park Land". It's going to create some REALLY crazy reframing of things.

If you overlay the rendering onto a Google Earth image from the same angle, the entire northern half of TSI and ROA is off to the right of the artwork and therefore, hopefully, not touched. I'd love to see the riverboat continue to operate.

 

[the_rich]

TBF, I think it was more along the line that the additional land "could" be used for future expansion and is still available, not that there were explicit plans to do so now or in the short term.

I interpreted it as there was a plan in place. I could be wrong tho.

 

[SteamboatJoe]

It really scares me having them create an animatronic of Walt.

Does this mean WDW eventually gets animatronic Roy?

 

[ctrlaltdel]

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Another potential solution: Turn the island into a peninsula, which would allow guests to walk onto it any time they wanted. Dock the Liberty Belle permanently either at its loading station or by Tiana's. Preserve the beautiful views of main TSI and the rivers.

Ironically, I think they want to keep the water next to Big Thunder, as they think that is likely more essential to an iconic attraction than TSI or the LB. Also allows them to keep part of the water way. But I agree, this makes way more sense.

 

[Scuttle]

If they wanted to increase traffic to TSI, all they needed to do was turn Fort Langhorn into a merch shop selling limited time popcorn buckets and have Aunt Polly's serve special cupcakes.

Aunt Polly’s should have been turned into a full bar years ago. It would have been perfect to let the kiddos run around while
the parents enjoy adult beverages.

 

[Captain Neo]

It really scares me having them create an animatronic of Walt.

His grandchild have been very vocally opposing it as have former imagineers. They were being very disingenious that they “got permission from the family” when only 1 of Roy’s family was ok with it

 

[Dear Prudence]

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Well they are also getting rid of Great Moments with Mr Lincoln and replacing it with a Walt Disney show at Disneyland so they are erasing American history from the parks. Nothing is sacred to these IP hound

They said the Walt show and Mr. Lincoln will be in rotation of each other.

 

[the_rich]

give us an example of concept art of something they announced at WDW turned out like that

Pandora

 

[Quietmouse]

Aside from nostalgia warriors, is this really going to play such a huge impact on the core of Disney world audience (younger families typically with small children, with above middle income brackets?)?

These families are paying nearly over 4k for 4 days at Disney world. Does the river boat and river and island add to the magic experience, detracts or is neutral for these families ?

Likewise, same question, would a cars land, with a well done e ticket experience, plus a smaller family experience ride, with solid theming and landscaping add, detract or be neutral ?

My guess, if well done (big if), then it will probably add to the overall trip versus a boat ride/island visit that most kids and families found boring and time wasting and would typically skip over.

 

[Beacon Joe]

If they truly pave over a pretty riverscape, this will make their greenwashing dopiness about straws and cup tops even more hilarious. At least to me. Maybe they can use the tons of plastic garbage merch sitting, unmoving and unwanted, in Big Lots and Ollies currently and use it as fill material.