News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Dear Prudence]

Also, it's not that I oppose Cars or the franchise, I just know this wasn't the team or budget that made Carsland that opened in 2012. You KNOW no thought or care is going into this.

 

[MrPromey]

Rides and attractions are used interchangeably on here for the most part.

Which they shouldn't be since rides only make up some of the attractions.

It's annoying in discussion when someone, either because they apparently don't understand the meaning of the word or in trying to somehow "win" a debate in bad faith pretend not to.

 

[the_rich]

No no no. It will become Woodys rootinist tootinist run away railroad.

I agree 100%. The problem though, is Disney isn't at that point of need yet. They have more than enough space to expand all the parks with no loss of existing attractions. They have spots where they've closed things just sitting empty. Stitch, wonders of life, animation courtyard... I can see when they close or swap very low rated attractions. But unless it's a Stich level attraction, it doesn't need to go away. They have the space, they have the demand for something new and they need the capacity. It should be a no brainer for Disney, but sadly it's not.

Tsi is barely used. Replacing muppets with monsters Inc instead of them using animation courtyard would be a mistake imo. It's still draws a crowd and people like it.

 

[basas]

Western movies and tv shows were incredibly popular when Frontier Land was conceived. Designing this land then was indeed a business decision back then. Disney knew then that a Frontier Land would bring in the crowds and the dollars. That time had passed. The people in charge now are likely making the same decisions the ones in charge then would have made. What’s going to make young crowds convince their parents to bring them to Disney? TSI and ROA aren’t it. I will miss the views in that area but totally get this decision either way. On to new Horizons I guess we could say??

Replacing entire lands every 10-15 years based on which IP is popular will get old really quick…especially with the Magic Kingdom lands that have such broad themes.

 

[SteamboatJoe]

Go to a national park...They need the money. TSI/RoA is nothing like a national park. There are plenty of large lakes with historic boat rides (real boats).

I never said TSI/ROA = national park. I am merely refuting the idea that the frontier theme in totality is dead.

 

[basas]

"...but National Parks attendance figures say people are still very into the wilderness."

Going into the actual wilderness is enticing. Going to a wooded area of WDW isn't the same thing.

I think if they had built Wilderness Lodge behind TSI it would make a lot more sense.

That is not my quote. But regardless, the entire point of a theme park is to take themes and fantasize them.

 

[Wall-e]

My wife and I discussed this last night and I’m interested to see everyone’s take on it. I’m not suggesting a Cars BTMRR takeover but she suggested bringing BTMRR up to par with DL. But I thought why just bring it up to that standard and not give BTMRR an update that will carry it the next 20 years? I don’t know what that would look like but I’d be interested in them taking the time now to give BTMRR a MAJOR overhaul so that this entire area of the park can be left alone and we could see improvements to TL for the next 15-20 years after.

 

[jason976]

Replacing entire lands every 10-15 years based on which IP is popular will get old really quick…especially with the Magic Kingdom lands that have such broad themes.

Agree. Just speaking to this particular scenario. Not suggesting it should be a revolving door on that kind of consistency.

 

[doctornick]

That doesn't make any sense. The Liberty Belle needs to be able to leave FL. That would turn it into a pond.

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DL manages to have watercraft without a backstage canal. It’s less ideal but it’s not like it has to have that connection to the 7SL. Though it certainly makes fixing the ship easier

 

[Bocabear]

Grizzly flats from Hong Kong Disneyland........

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Also, it's not that I oppose Cars or the franchise, I just know this wasn't the team or budget that made Carsland that opened in 2012. You KNOW no thought or care is going into this.

That's why I thought of any new thing the safest thing was just to get an exact clone of Cars Land because at least it would put pressure to copy in the exact thing. It wouldn't be difficult or risky.

 

[John park hopper]

Nothing in WDW can be compared to anything in the real world --from the overinflated prices, the miss labeled resort levels, the fake stucco rocks, etc etc but that was the point of WDW--- escape from reality. The current high ups have forgotten this

 

[James Alucobond]

Replacing entire lands every 10-15 years based on which IP is popular will get old really quick…especially with the Magic Kingdom lands that have such broad themes.

To be fair, this entire pair of attractions could easily be rethemed by reshaping the crest of the mountain, swapping out the ride vehicles, and doing a smattering of other cosmetic things. It doesn’t feel terribly locked into the IP.

 

[basas]

Tsi is barely used. Replacing muppets with monsters Inc instead of them using animation courtyard would be a mistake imo. It's still draws a crowd and people like it.

Let me guess…you’re a big Muppets fan and don’t care for TSI?

 

[Dear Prudence]

There was some guy on Twitter who wrote a Victor Hugo novel of a Tweet (in re: ROA), like literally 5 paragraphs, grandstanding about how the riverboats displaced Native people (this person is not Native), but....didn't name a single Native Nation, just said, "Native Americans," or "THE Native Americans."

You can't name a single Nation, dude.

Lol, who was that for?!

 

[UNCgolf]

To be fair, this entire pair of attractions could easily be rethemed by reshaping the crest of the mountain, swapping out the ride vehicles, and doing a smattering of other cosmetic things. It doesn’t feel terribly locked into the IP.

Yeah, except it would probably have to be changed into something generic without an IP nexus -- and I don't envision that happening.

 

[Dear Prudence]

That's why I thought of any new thing the safest thing was just to get an exact clone of Cars Land because at least it would put pressure to copy in the exact thing. It wouldn't be difficult or risky.

I love Cars! I just don't love the idea that it's gonna be made by the current corner cutting people

 

[Disstevefan1]

Look on the bright side. This thread will provide AT LEAST 6 YEARS of entertainment!

Thanks https://forums.wdwmagic.com/

 

[doctornick]

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Another potential solution: Turn the island into a peninsula, which would allow guests to walk onto it any time they wanted. Dock the Liberty Belle permanently either at its loading station or by Tiana's. Preserve the beautiful views of main TSI and the rivers.

This is what I would suggest. They can even put bridges across to the island to connect it from the "main" part of Frontierland and Liberty Sq.

Heck, they can even do this and remove all the stuff from TSI (caves, bridges, etc) and make it part of Cars. It would still be better than the plans they released.

 

[JohnD]

Disney's new idea to increase attendance: getting people to come before they tear down the things they love.

Seems that way, doesn't it? I already had the trip planned but yeah.