News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

MagicHappens1971

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This new Cars “sub-land” of Frontierland looks great, seems to have some beautiful water elements that when coupled with the cars passing by will add/replace the kinetic energy of the riverboat/TSI. If it also winds up having as many trees as the concept art, I think it will have a great “national park”-esque vibe. The Disney of 2017 would've plopped Cars Land right out of DCA into Frontierland. They seem to be playing the long game, upgrade this underutilized space for a net positive attraction gain, and then continue to expand beyond the current park borders.
 

AidenRodriguez731

Well-Known Member
I'm guessing you're the guy who asked "How can Epcot be a Disney park without any Disney characters in it?" ;)
I like the Disney characters in it 🤷‍♂️ I know I'm not a "typical Disney fan" in that way but I think the reason I go to Disney is for 2 things:

Great theming
Disney IP

Disney IP has been held like a sort of treasure, there's a million rides that I would want based on movies and everytime we get one announced I feel great that I can finally ride the scene. I love the Disney originals too but a lot of them are meh to me, especially Epcots. I also understand why a massive business like Disney would do stuff like fill in the ROA. Not only does it add very little capacity it also attracts very little people, and sell virtually no merchandise/make money, it's in prime real estate in a park that NEEDS it. As a guest, I found it kinda nice? but I would much prefer what we got in that concept art with mountains, geysers, and some water still retained.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

Well-Known Member
I thought the idea of the Florida Project was to not be restricted by space and build anything they dream without the expense of what is removing something to add something new.
Yeah that was Walt but California company management don't want WDW to grow prosperous maybe Asia doesn't want it either.
 

DarkMetroid567

Well-Known Member
That's not quite true. If you look at what Universal is developing for Epic Universe and the Kids Resort in Texas, you'll see that they are placing a lot of emphasis on the "park" part of theme parks.
I’ll give you the Kids Resort, but I swear that people invoke Universal as a proxy for what they hope Disney does without paying attention to what Universal is actually doing.

Almost none of Epic resembles a traditional “park” in anyway, beyond a few bits of Celestial Park. Especially not Nintendo and Harry Potter which will be congested on day 1.
 

eddie104

Well-Known Member
Wow I was hoping and praying this wouldn’t be the case.

I have a few thoughts…
  • Technically this is a net gain in attractions so we are not really loosing anything in that regard
  • Why they are spending so much money to shove Cars into this piece of land bewilders me.
  • Ambiance and peacefulness is an important for a busy theme park like the MK so this is a complete blow in that aspect.
  • Josh D'Amaro probably can’t wait till he becomes CEO so he doesn’t to keep announcing controversial changes.
  • Bob Iger needs to leave at this point because I hate his favoritism.
  • Overall I’m still kind of mixed about this project.
  • It’s taking a previous underutilized space and turning into something more profitable which is the current Disney mantra for WDW.
 

castlecake2.0

Well-Known Member
It's already been stated this is the more expensive option than using virgin land to the north. Getting rid of what they view as "problematic" is the goal for the specific direction chosen.
What’s problematic is trying to get guests to the other side of it. There’s no where to build the paths needed for guest flow without altering the river and island. HM blocks the one side and TBA and BTM on the other.
 

MissM

Well-Known Member
Forgive me if someone on said this already, it's hard to keep up with 59 pages, but does this mean they're going to have a walkable path from Haunted Mansion now to Big Thunder? Before, of course, you had to walk all the way around the Rivers of America but the concept art looks like there's going to be open pathways? I'm just wondering how that's going to look/work with HM's queue being famously right on the waterfront.

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CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
I think he’s right. As I said in my other post, this is a company now ashamed of its American roots. Today it’s Frontierland, tomorrow it’s Liberty Square and don’t be surprised if one day its Main Street USA being converted into a version of Shanghai’s ‘Mickey Ave’.

We don’t know much about what Walt would have done (so I tend to avoid that), but it’s well documented that Walt was a patriot. I think he’d be ashamed to see his company run like this.
I 100% agree that the dynamic you're describing exists within TWDC. However:
  1. Those voices have lost a lot of clout. Chapek wasn't a culture warrior himself but he was spineless and let the culture warriors win. Iger is kinda-sorta a culture warrior but he cares about money first and foremost and he realized that the Brand was being eroded. So he put out a mandate that Disney will no longer been seen as a propaganda machine.
  2. I don't think those forces have anything to do with this decision.
 

DarkMetroid567

Well-Known Member
Forgive me if someone on said this already, it's hard to keep up with 59 pages, but does this mean they're going to have a walkable path from Haunted Mansion now to Big Thunder? Before, of course, you had to walk all the way around the Rivers of America but the concept art looks like there's going to be open pathways? I'm just wondering how that's going to look/work with HM's queue being famously right on the waterfront.

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I hope so. Half of the reason I don’t ride BTMR is because the walk to it feels like an odyssey.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
I remember one poster replied to a message and said "No this won't be the last straw for anyone." Well, he's wrong. Whatever subsection of pixie-dusters that like this and want to passive-aggressively mock and insult the people who don't like it-please enjoy the space that I will not be occupying anymore. I'd like to thank Disney for giving me a place to enjoy with family over the years, but time to move on.
I'm no pixie-duster but I recognize that (a) it's just a theme park (b) in Florida (c) run by a California-based company (d) that thinks WDW fans are just stupid tourists.

And the standard response to "I'm not going!" applies. (someone will be there to take your place)

I'm quite sure someone has taken mine by now.
 

jason976

Member
No I honestly don't. I think it's just an empty part of the park that can be used more effectively.
Agree here. Most people just don’t care about this as much as the vocal minority. I completely respect those who feel passionately about it. It’s sucks for them. And I will miss seeing the park the way I did when I was younger.

But aside from that, the park had to evolve to remain relevant to younger crowds. I know my wife and I and our 2 college aged kids are very excited for something different.

Regarding HOP, the vocal left and right have made it impossible to enjoy an attraction like this. You pick which president (or party) you hate and someone always has a comment. For that reason, we never even consider going in it anyway.
 

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