News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Raineman]

Iger is allergic to water

Fountain of Nations
Tom Sawyer Island
Echo Lake 2027
World Showcase Lagoon 2029
Animal Kingdom 2030

How many rides/lands can they fit on the World Showcase lagoon after they fill it in and concrete it? I shudder to think of the answer to that.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Coco is no longer. It's moved over coast.

A Coco attraction is going west, yes. This doesn not mean Coco won't come to WDW. There's a reason Cars is going where it is

 

[MrPromey]

Most of the new announcements seem like a desperate response to the New Epic Universe Park. Except it is to little, and to late. Iger said that they have known about Epic was coming for around 10 years, and they are just now announcing new stuff. They should have announced this stuff 5 years ago, and had some of this stuff up and running starting this year and into next year.

They were clearly waiting and watching to see what kind of a threat Universal's new park might pose before committing to anything.

I'm fairly convinced that's why the last few D23s have been so lame with blue sky crap (prior to this one, of course). They didn't want to commit to more than they had to before they knew.

Regardless of what fans want to argue one way or the other, I think at this point, Disney has made their calculations on what they expect the impact to be on them and someone is not happy with the outlook.

What's happened here is clearly a case of "Pay attention to what they do and not what they say" as Bob's statement made it sound like Disney wasn't worried at all but these announcements out of D23, complete with conflicting concept art, clearly show that Disney is now seriously worried about the impact Universal may have on their Florida operations in years to come.

This is all Potter-Swatter™ activity all over again.

For those who don't remember, that's how we ended up with NFL only this time, they appear to be taking the potential threat a whole lot more seriously.

My guess is someone finally realized their entire profit center in resorts and DVC is anchored by the parks and that the whole house of cards with that could be in jeopardy if they were to loose complete dominance over their traveling guests' central Florida vacations.*

Not much sense paying Disney's grossly inflated rates for what in modern times are often lower standard rooms if you're not planning on staying mostly in the "bubble" they started poking their own holes in to save a buck back with the end of Magic Express.


*Maybe this year's downward attendance (affecting more than just Disney, of course) make the dangers of something like that more obvious on a spreadsheet or two.

 

[JohnD]

So glad they are adding “additional” attractions and capacity to the parks

Apparently it won't fit.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Absolutely. This is just like Splash in that they certainly know this change is going to be shredded by the most loyal and vocal parks fans, but they did it anyway because... reasons.

This is nothing like Splash because EVERYONE loved Splash. The hardos and the casuals alike. Killing Splash was universally hated outside of a micro-niche faction of culture warriors. This decision is going to be hugely popular with the normies.

 

[horatiog]

I had the same thought! The current concept doesn’t rule this out… I’m hopeful that they plan to save the northern loop of ROA. It would allow big thunder to remain on the water front and they could dock the belle just west of the haunted mansion in a new small extension of liberty square which would transition to villains…

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This is what I want. Truly. I can cope with losing Tom Sawyer Island, but losing the rivers entirely would be a profound shame.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Bob and Josh - hold my beer

"Trying to one-up themselves, WDI has announced that Cinderella's Castle will be removed and replaced with "Raya's Last Dragon Coaster", a thrilling new attraction for the whole family (assuming they're tall enough)."

 

[October82]

I guess we are looking at the concept art differently, then.

They've been pretty clear in their announcement that this isn't Radiator Springs Racers or anything close to it. Doesn't mean it won't be a fun attraction, but they're not building an east coast Cars Land.

 

[larryz]

I mean it is lunchtime now and I don't have much of an appetite.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Iger is allergic to water

Fountain of Nations
Tom Sawyer Island
Echo Lake 2027
World Showcase Lagoon 2029
Animal Kingdom 2030

Am I the only person who's ever been to Pandora?

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I don't think it's all being filled in. I think the depth is going to be some of the lower parts of the track. Some of it has water in it still. Red is lower race track, blue looks like water.

People are lamenting the loss of water. But do people not see the giant waterfalls in all the concept art?

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Looks like you can only enjoy a refreshing moment of waterfall just while riding the attraction, I don't see any pathways for scenic walking by it... correct?

 

[Ghost93]

Bigger does not always mean it is worthy of more than the smaller counterpart. Frozen is a much, much, much more successful movie than Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, but should we then say that Frozen is a more important thing to keep preserved and remembered than Snow White?

That's historically inaccurate. Snow White, adjusted for inflation, is in the top 10 highest grossing movies of all time and is much more profitatable than Frozen. Frozen definitely sells more merchandise today, but Snow White had several decades of being the most popular and beloved animated movie of all time, selling 28 million VHS copies in the 90s — six decades after its initial release and the third best-selling VHS of all time behind The Lion King and Aladdin.

I'm not saying this to bash Frozen, I love Frozen. But Snow White was the company's most consistent moneymaker in the 20th Century. Only time will tell if Frozen has the same staying power 80 years from now.

 

[doctornick]

The ones in California company isn't thrilled of WDW getting love a new nighttime parade, Encanto, Monster's Inc Land.

They are telling you, you want Villains and better you'll pay the price. It's no wonder there are almost 4 Frozen Lands around the World but only 1 Cars Land in California all this Time.

The thing is that changes to WDW always seems to come with some sort of irreversible destruction and loss.

DLR may not get as "much" as the fans there want but virtually always is preserved. And could still be used in the future.

 

[John park hopper]

You are wrong indeed. Almost all of the original Universal park in Orlando (and Hollywood) has been replaced. Universal thrives on replacement. Hogsmeade replaced Merlinwood. Diagon Alley replaced Jaws. Mummy in Hollywood replaced ET. Simpsons replaced Back to the Future. The only actual addition they’ve done to an existing park that didn’t replace something was Nintindo in Holywood. Sometimes they’ll build a whole new park but Universal mostly plays the replacement game.

If you read my later post I admitted I was mistaken

 

[erasure fan1]

Whatever subsection of pixie-dusters that like this and want to passive-aggressively mock and insult the people who don't like it-please enjoy the space that I will not be occupying anymore.

Great! Shorter lines for me!!!!

Did I capture the essence? Did I get it right? I've been working on my impression for a while now.

 

[nickys]

I never liked the idea of Cars as a theme in MK.

Even more so now with the loss of TSI and RoA. I’ll miss both exploring TSI and riding on the Liberty Belle. RIP.

 

[doctornick]

Wait now this is a political thing?

I'll lead the parade if we're lining up to bash w*ke Disney, but... this isn't that.

You don't think getting rid of Tom Sawyer Island and Fort Langhorn has anything to do with political correctness?

Not to mention if they remove Liberty Square and Hall of Presidents.

 

[basas]

Wait now this is a political thing?

I'll lead the parade if we're lining up to bash w*ke Disney, but... this isn't that.

I think he’s right. As I said in my other post, this is a company now ashamed of its American roots. Today it’s Frontierland, tomorrow it’s Liberty Square and don’t be surprised if one day its Main Street USA being converted into a version of Shanghai’s ‘Mickey Ave’.

We don’t know much about what Walt would have done (so I tend to avoid that), but it’s well documented that Walt was a patriot. I think he’d be ashamed to see his company run like this.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The thing is that changes to WDW always seems to come with some sort of irreversible destruction and loss.

DLR may not get as "much" as the fans there want but virtually always is preserved. And could still be used in the future.

Because as I've said every time "5th gate" conversations come up, WDW already has enough to fill a week-long vacation, and Americans will only ever take week-long vacations. Expanding beyond one week worth of stuff has diminishing marginal returns, so they focus on making new and better stuff rather than a larger quantity of stuff.

That issue doesn't exist at Disneyland, which is not yet a week-long destination.

 

[JohnD]

We need a definitive answer on what is going to happen to the riverboat. And, no, destroying it is not an answer. Fantasmic would be great but I'm told it won't fit. How about dropping it into Echo Lake as a walk on exhibit? Can it be used as an actual boat on SSL? We know it's on a track in ROA. Is it an actual serviceable boat?