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[BrianLo]

How is this the “largest expansion in Magic Kingdom Park history” if it just repurposes existing guest space?

That quote was specifically reused to describe Villainsland and previously BBTM.

This project was just referred to as Frontierland.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

So wait, are we back to hoping they DON'T spend money on the parks? I'm sure that's what Wall Street wants.

Yes, if this is how they are going to spend it I’d rather they don’t. Hah

 

[Captain Barbossa]

Looks like the Railroad track will be right outside of the one laydown yard. I do have to wonder if they will eventually close the railroad and put in a construction access road to tie this yard to the construction area.

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Hopefully the railroad will only close so they can put in a temporary grade crossing for construction.

 

[doctornick]

All this talk has made me realize that what I love about WDW truly is not just the rides, but the entire experience of the parks. I love the trees, the water features, and beauty of the parks themselves. One of the reasons I love MK so much is because of areas like ROA where I can sit and stare out over the water and think about life. I bet the majority of "rides, rides, rides" people are fine with this because they view the parks as collection of rides to experience and this gives them more of what they want. But for those of us who view the parks as an escape from the hustle and bustle of the world, this choice hurts.

It may sound weird, but one of the things I really enjoy at MK is walking on the wooden path they added along the water to go to Splash/BTMRR. I don't know, but just the feeling of walking on that along the river brings a smile to my face.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Looks like the Railroad track will be right outside of the one laydown yard. I do have to wonder if they will eventually close the railroad and put in a construction access road to tie this yard to the construction area.

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Another lengthy railroad closure is practically guaranteed. If it's not the land prep and construction access areas, then it'll be from the work to fill in the RoA. The train tracks cross the connecting canal and I assume they'll probably renovate or even demolish/rebuild the old bridge...

 

[wdwmagic]

That said, I am honestly surprised that this stayed a secret (relatively) right up until the day it was announced.

What seems to happen a lot in recent years is they are announcing things relatively soon after making a decision. So there doesn't seem to be a lot of time for info to circulate out before it gets announced. In the old days, a decision would be made, quite a few people would know about it, then construction would start, then it would be announced.

 

[basas]

“Formula that works”
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And that’s the truth. For those of us who are opposed to changes such as this we’re consistently told we just don’t “get it”, we’re not the target audience, the general public will LOVE it and spend, spend, spend, it’s a business decision, it’s about the shareholders, etc etc etc.

And yet what they’re doing isn’t working. Maybe they should try a different approach…

 

[Rich Brownn]

Oh, absolutely, none of us were present for most of the moments we study, but there are massive gaps between different levels of research out there.

People deciding that, say, changing the redhead in Pirates is "changing history" are pretty much wasting everyone's time. If they really wanted to point out the travesty visited on Pirates, they'd be demanding to know when the heck Jack Sparrow and company will be out of the ride so the danged thing can be coherent again.

Considering POTC, even in its original form, had no relationship to real pirates (one of the imagineers remarked he was surprised to find most of them died of syphyllis not in battle!) so they went with the "Hollywood"-izedd version

 

[AdventureHasAName]

So wait, are we back to hoping they DON'T spend money on the parks? I'm sure that's what Wall Street wants.

I want additions, not replacements. I want them in parks (and lands) that are themeatic matches. And I want them in the parks that receive less attendance.

 

[Clamman73]

It's like there would be no reason to go right for rope drop anymore. (well even now...)

 

[KDM31091]

Looks like the Railroad track will be right outside of the one laydown yard. I do have to wonder if they will eventually close the railroad and put in a construction access road to tie this yard to the construction area.

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They seem to love closing the Railroad at any possible opportunity, so I'm sure they will, probably for a long time (again)

 

[doctornick]

I want additions, not replacements.

This.

It's amazing how much money they keep spending at WDW only to effectively be "running in place".

 

[basas]

So wait, are we back to hoping they DON'T spend money on the parks? I'm sure that's what Wall Street wants.

Tick off as many of your loyal and long-time customers as you can.

After that, tick off the general public.

Yep…that’s they way they taught it to me in business school…

 

[Tha Realest]

Folks it’s entirely possible to do way with the current configuration of TSI and maintain some semblance of the current Liberty Square and riverfront area and build out what they plan to do - especially if they connect it around behind to Fantasyland.

But they clearly wanted Liberty Square as it presently exists gone.

 

[hopemax]

All this talk has made me realize that what I love about WDW truly is not just the rides, but the entire experience of the parks. I love the trees, the water features, and beauty of the parks themselves. One of the reasons I love MK so much is because of areas like ROA where I can sit and stare out over the water and think about life. I bet the majority of "rides, rides, rides" people are fine with this because they view the parks as collection of rides to experience and this gives them more of what they want. But for those of us who view the parks as an escape from the hustle and bustle of the world, this choice hurts.

WDW wasn't, at one time one the biggest honeymoon destinations for people who weren't brand fanatics because people wanted to ride attractions all day. It was for service, experiences, placemaking and simply vibes. And while sure they still make a ton of money off people who *are* brand fanatics, it feels like they've totally lost that type of business among normies, based on marketing and travel reporting.

 

[doctornick]

Folks it’s entirely possible to do way with the current configuration of TSI and maintain some semblance of the current Liberty Square and riverfront area and build out what they plan to do - especially if they connect it around behind to Fantasyland.

But they clearly wanted Liberty Square as it presently exists gone.

Obviously

 

[DarkMetroid567]

Folks it’s entirely possible to do way with the current configuration of TSI and maintain some semblance of the current Liberty Square and riverfront area and build out what they plan to do - especially if they connect it around behind to Fantasyland.

But they clearly wanted Liberty Square as it presently exists gone.

I’ve said this before but god I Really want nothing more than LS gone

EDIT: unless they bring back muppets. Then we’re back

 

[Obi-Ron-Kenobi]

But this isn’t about Tom Sawyer and the river not being “trendy” it’s about no longer having water and peaceful views in the middle of a busy theme park.

To be clear, I would much prefer if they saved the river and the views to this plan. I'm referring more to the posts that this is a huge strategic mistake that will cost visitors, the posts about how this is another sign of the "demise" of Disney, and especially the ones that want to make it political.

You can dislike the decision without also taking it as a direct attack on you as a person, lol

 

[The Empress Lilly]

But this isn’t about Tom Sawyer and the river not being “trendy” it’s about no longer having water and peaceful views in the middle of a busy theme park.

They are spending billions to solve the ugliness of WDSP by building a large tranquil water so it looks more like a classic Disney park, while removing it in the MK so it will more resemble WDSP/Disney Adventure Park.

 

[FettFan]

So wait, are we back to hoping they DON'T spend money on the parks? I'm sure that's what Wall Street wants.

How about “don’t do expensive stupid crap”?