News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

To paraphrase Harold Ramis in Stripes: they're not ignoring it, they're abandoning it.

There's no clear path forward with new attractions based on the original concepts of Frontierland and Liberty Square. They're problematic eras in American history.

Beyond that, the current attractions are not popular, generate no Lightning Lane or merchandise revenue, and provide relatively litle useful capacity.

Given the mandate to put IP everywhere and drive LL revenue, the creative and business cases seem like they're pretty clear.

I’m not talking about the content. I’m talking about physical organization of the space. Much of that is staying and it will be a worse experience.

 

[basas]

Jeeze.. I don’t come on here often but Disney adults really remind me of the type of people that’ll get mad about a professional team changing their logos and or team name.

What else do you expect from super fans?

If you don’t want ‘analysis’, people’s opinions both positive and negative, go read the Disney press release.

 

[Winter]

They’ve got far more fails than wins as it stands right now.

Not really? Only recent fails I can think of was maybe Millenium Falcon and Navi River Journey, and neither of those are even bad, just decent.

 

[basas]

If only they had a popular franchise with a cowboy character they could have used here instead.

That said, Frontierland evolving into more of an Americana land at least provides some thematic cohesion although the Midwesterner in me feels a little left out.

Missouri is a midwestern state!

 

[FettFan]

They truly are morons.

It's sad that even with this "massive" investment to "expand" they keep on running in place instead of actually doing more. They are literally going to spend a crapload of money to get rid of RoA and TSI when they could have used the same money to simply put Cars in a somewhat different location. It's the definition of insanity.

That’s a bingo.

 

[doctornick]

EPCOT's American Adventure fills this role. It's literally its purpose.

Eh, others have already said that is potentially on the chopping block at some point too. If they are willing to go to this much trouble to remove TSI, I'm skeptical that AA lasts more than another decade. I'm sure we'll get a lovely replacement that celebrates the History of America's favorite company Disney

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I was just thinking back to a few short weeks ago when everyone was fretting about how a Louisiana bayou fit into Frontierland... Ah, those were the days!

 

[BrianLo]

Another thing I don't understand is why people are falling for that 'reveal' of villains land at the end of the panel. That is such a vague piece of concept art with no location nor time frame announced that was obviously dropped out there to give fans something to hang onto. We'll see.

It was confirmed as 5 years and beyond big thunder.

Though they were also pretty coy with Avatar and that’s both more imminent and I don’t think there is much love for the backlot.

 

[basas]

and one wonders how much longer that has, they would love to get rid of the expense of all of the animatronics...

Not to mention “problematic” themes and characters.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The next step in the slow, painful march towards the homogenization of all Disney parks into loosely connected IP repositories.

Once again...

Original Disney: World Class Theme Parks

Current Disney: World Class Disney-themed Parks

Cars Land at DCA is the best-executed themed land outside of Tokyo.

 

[danlb_2000]

So this is stormwater control and laydown yard, not the actual construction yet.

 

[donsullivan]

These are big laydown yards and one right up against the railroad..

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Once this gets rolling in earnest, I suspect we'll lose the railroad for another couple of years.

 

[Quietmouse]

This is somewhat dismissive considering a big part of the appeal of the original Disneyland was the nostalgic look back it offered to parents and grandparents of that era. Maybe thats an argument for why some of these things should be replaced as time does march on, but the appeal of nostalgia should not be completely ignored (nor, similarly, overdone).

I get the appeal of nostalgia, but one could argue that nostalgia handcuffs you into the past while denying you the opportunity to embrace change.

 

[BrianLo]

The crowds at DL and WDW are completely different. And, no, I don't think that people at DL are "enjoying" RoA/TSI more than at MK - the island there is just as sparse when I have visited it.

Fantasmic is a key differentiator.

 

[DCLcruiser]

EPCOT's American Adventure fills this role. It's literally its purpose.

There was a time that I thought they were the same show! If HOP was ever in danger, they should expand the US pavilion.

 

[donsullivan]

So this is stormwater control and laydown yard, not the actual construction yet.

The stormwater retention has to be built and fully operational to take over the storage capacity provided by RoA before they can start removal of that. However many gallons of runoff capacity RoA provides to the site needs to be replaced and in operation first.

 

[mightynine]

I was just thinking back to a few short weeks ago when everyone was fretting about how a Louisiana bayou fit into Frontierland... Ah, those were the days!

It's easier when nothing fits! ;-)

 

[JD80]

I gave it the 24 hour rule before posting on here and like I said earlier…I wasn’t initially on board but my 11yo son was BEYOND excited and engaged in the conversation of what comes next (with construction, etc) to the point that it caused him to be emotionally invested in this in a positive way. We’ve been fortunate enough that he has been to MK at least 5 times now and his eyes see this as advancement and something his generation will enjoy for years to come with his kids.

I think a lot of people forget this perspective.

 

[doctornick]

I imagine it's a long term decision so they can make villains land bigger or have more room for an additional land in the future.

They literally will have to replace the river with other water reservoirs for storm management. They aren't creating more land out of this. If they wanted to make Villains bigger or add other stuff there is literally the "blessing of size" and acres of land to the north they can use. MK does not have any issues with not enough land. Not even remotely.

 

[Dear Prudence]

I am sorry to call Liberty Square problematic from a political standpoint is "PROBLEMATIC." The Hall of Presidents exists so all presidents regardless of their political party or views are represented to discuss about our collective history as a country. Most countries from around the world have issues but to simply ignore history is simply ignorant or the bad parts will easily come back to haunt us all again.

The Disney difference was that their parks offered items for all families, individuals and guests. You could ride a roller coaster, take a cruise past dolls representing various nations, sit in a mansion full of ghosts or actually learn something while staying cool in the HoP or CoP.

I get their current strategy is to charge more so a cut in attendance is noticeable but not hurting the bottom line. However, Wall Street, social media and people are starting to see trends they do not like. Taking the magic out of Disney World which made it a premium resort for so many years to replace the heart of the parks is starting to burn the company.

I am not sure how anything with Andrew Jackson still exists. I am more concerned about that than Tom Sawyer Island.