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Winter

Winter

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doctornick said:
They literally will have to replace the river with other water reservoirs for storm management. They aren't creating more land out of this. If they wanted to make Villains bigger or add other stuff there is literally the "blessing of size" and acres of land to the north they can use. MK does not have any issues with not enough land. Not even remotely.
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The reservoirs will be outside of the park. Rivers of America is inside the park.

The park is restricted to being inside the border of the railroad unless they completely retrack it.
 
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Quietmouse

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My hope is that they utilize the land in a way that encourages exploration.

Again, I’m down for this concept, but on the sole idea that there are faux hiking trails to explore and hidden nook and crannies that really put you in the perspective atmosphere or hiking out west.

Again, if done well, this can be a great addition.
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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Ice Gator said:
I see people calling them out for “expansion pads being wasted”, but I’m sure that they know what they’re doing.
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What gives you that confidence? Epcot? Toy Story Land? Polynesian Marriott?
Ice Gator said:
TSI is a waste of space for the world’s busiest theme park and I’ll die on that hill.
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More of a waste of space than closed attractions and closed restaurants?
 
Ice Gator

Ice Gator

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HuckleBerryFin said:
Jeeze.. I don’t come on here often but Disney adults really remind me of the type of people that’ll get mad about a professional team changing their logos and or team name.
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I’m actually miffed by how much people are overreacting to this. Cars is a dumb IP, sure, but I’m not going to sit here and gaslight myself that TSI and ROA are MK staples that should be preserved over an entire new land expansion and rides.

It’s the busiest theme park in the world and has been desperate for more capacity for years- I’ll take a new land none of the other parks have over a glorified playground hardly anyone actually visits any day.
 
Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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BrianLo said:
It was confirmed as 5 years and beyond big thunder.
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Was he that specific about it? My memory of it is that he moved on very quickly from the artwork (which is apparently still an early concept) to talking about "all the projects we have planned..." and "preparations are underway."

I'll be honest, though, I'm even a little sceptical about the Coco boat ride if construction isn't even scheduled to begin until 2026. A lot can happen in a year and a half.
 
FettFan

FettFan

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Winter said:
Not really? Only recent fails I can think of was maybe Millenium Falcon and Navi River Journey, and neither of those are even bad, just decent.
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- Harmonious
- Demolishing Communicore SW only to go “oh crap” and rebuild it into what can only be described as an airport cafeteria for character meets.
- Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser falling flat on its face
- Tiana’s Bayou Adventure being a buggy mess
- Giant abandoned waterfront theater at DAK because Rivers of Light never worked.
- KiteTales
 
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J4546

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Quietmouse said:
My hope is that they utilize the land in a way that encourages exploration.

Again, I’m down for this concept, but on the sole idea that there are faux hiking trails to explore and hidden nook and crannies that really put you in the perspective atmosphere or hiking out west.

Again, if done well, this can be a great addition.
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I wish theyd build a Camp Discovery style attraction in the US parks but they probably cant due to injury/litigation fears.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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doctornick said:
Sure. But that's not something intrinsic to the DL RoA - they could add it to MK or a similar show if that's what they "need" to make it popular. And they can cut off access to Pirates Lair (or stop running the canoes etc) if the issue is that they are wasting money running and maintaining things that people don't enjoy. I'm sorry but the version of TSI out there - still called Tom Sawyer I might add - isn't any more utilized than MK's.
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I hear you. In the daytime, no it’s definitely not more utilized. But it has that dual function, like saying Hollywood Studios amphitheater is not utilized either. True in the sense of what you are saying. But in terms of desire to remove it, Fantasmic (and fireworks overflow) does drive a lot of usage and positive guest scores out of Disneyland. Magic Kingdom did not have that.

There’s a measurable ROI that can be shown to an executive as far as Disneyland is concerned. It is selling merch. It is selling reserved seating. Which is I think why it got kept, in a shortened format.

I think to your point, Tokyo is definitely next on the chopping block. They’ve been circling around that one for ages.
 
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basas

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Obi-Ron-Kenobi said:
I agree with this take on all fronts. I think it's odd that so many are worried about Rockies/Cascades feel seeming out of place, but had no issue with Splash Mountain (set in the old South) being stuffed between a wild west town and BTM. Like what are we even doing here?

In my opinion the loss of a scenic vista and a open-play space that is lightly used is a big bummer, but entirely understand Disney's need to make more money quarter over quarter. This is the life of a publicly traded company.

Lastly (also my opinion), people saying this has anything to do with Disney being anti-American are victim-shopping. And what's more American than tearing down natural beauty if it's the way of progress and profits?
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America literally created the modern-day national park…and a Grizzly Peak-like area would be a great *addition* to WDW…*addition*. There is no victim shopping going on at all…
 
AdventureHasAName

AdventureHasAName

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Ice Gator said:
... but MK is desperate for more capacity and unique attractions that the other parks don’t have.
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Is it? It's a twice as "complete" as any of the other three WDW parks. If you built things people wanted to experience in the other parks, then you wouldn't have the overcrowding in this park.

Ice Gator said:
I see people calling them out for “expansion pads being wasted”, but I’m sure that they know what they’re doing more than Disney pass holders speculating on a blog.
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I'm not sure of that at all. In fact, I'd take the collective knowledge of the regulars on this message board over current parks management any day of the week (and twice on Sundays). I struggle to find good decisions and well-implemented plans that have occurred in the parks over the last twenty years. It is not the fault of the hardcore Disney fans that the WDW has plenty of CURRENTLY UNUSED space all over the place. All they have to do is spend money to build and staff it (which they obviously don't want to do).
 
SteamboatJoe

SteamboatJoe

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Quietmouse said:
I get the appeal of nostalgia, but one could argue that nostalgia handcuffs you into the past while denying you the opportunity to embrace change.
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It's a delicate balance for sure. The current trend just seems to skew heavily towards change. For decades a core part of the company's advertising was almost the opposite - bring your kids and grandkids to experience the rides and attractions you loved as a kid and enjoy some of our new additions as well. There was a certain romantic charm and comforting familiarity to it.
 
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Kamikaze

Kamikaze

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doctornick said:
with a guest path? The same way they did in DL?

The most "complicated" thing is that they need a bridge over the canal which is something they have in Epcot which opens nightly. And a bridge in MK would only need to open once in a blue moon and never during operating hours.
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Yes. Obviously. But if you actually look at the layout, there's no 'path' that can be built with the current configuration of the area. You'd have to move either HM queue or the River, as theres no way to build a path on the other side. This was the major issue with the Beyond Thunder concept in the first place.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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J4546 said:
all i make out of these permits is there is a massive amount of land being graded and ready for expansion behind big thunder. Perhaps something way out of left field is coming and they are moving all the backstage stuff behind Tianas/potc and gonna make room for a land and pathway around tianas
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Nope, the cleared land if for construction staging.
 

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