lentesta
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I think I've iterated through the reasons upthread. Didn't want to fill everyone's feed repeating it.PROBLEMATIC
I think I've iterated through the reasons upthread. Didn't want to fill everyone's feed repeating it.PROBLEMATIC
They're literally not.
Nobody applies logic on this site it’s always overly emotional on any changes Disney makes.
Can you explain why you would get banned? I don't understand.I agree Rivers of America is beautiful place-setting.
The Liberty Belle Riverboat, Tom Sawyer Island, and Hall of Presidents generate exactly $0 in Lightning Lane revenue.
I'm not saying that should be the primary factor in these decisions. But it's a top consideration for the company, and one that drives decisions about what to build. (Whether it should be is more of a discussion about what flavor of capitalism you prefer. And to paraphrase myself from earlier today, this afternoon isn't the time for me to get banned from this forum.)
ETA: I really, sincerely thank you all for putting up with me while I test lines for the next podcast. Thank you.
The Iger Company continues to think the average guest is a drooling moron who will happily lap up whatever they toss out.
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And that’s why we’ve seen such stunning failures for Disney parks.
The incredibly aggravating thing is much of what the company does with the parks isn't bad conceptually, it just gets implemented poorly or in the wrong locations.I agree with this, but it's that way on both sides, which is what makes it almost unbearable. There are people who vilify literally everything and people who praise literally everything.
There's very little nuance or room for logical discussion.
Supposedly its going to do something like 5 months Walt, 5 months Abe. They don't want to lock it to the same time of year so they want to be a lopsided schedule (not 6/6 or 3/3/3/3)They are for at least a year and then it will go into “rotation” whatever that meabs
In lieu of calling them problematic, you can just state the business reality that the company does not think they can tell amy more good stories about turn of the 20th century-or-earlier Americana. With WRE having never been built, you can argue the company saw the writing on the wall since Bush 41 was president!I think I've iterated through the reasons upthread. Didn't want to fill everyone's feed repeating it.
Their recent track record, outside of anything Joe Rhode has done, is atrocious.Idk, avatar land in animal kingdom is quite beautiful from a theming perspective.
It definitely more so revolves around the budget and what it allows. If Disney is truly allocating as much as they say they are then it could be extremely well done.
This is how every fandom operates.Nobody applies logic on this site it’s always overly emotional on any changes Disney makes.
I always try to be understanding but then the same posters turn the discussion into a politics thread which I’m not here for.
This is not Fox News or CNN but a theme park fan site. I shouldn’t be seeing words like woke or DEI used as justifications to attack a company.
I gave it the 24 hour rule before posting on here and like I said earlier…I wasn’t initially on board but my 11yo son was BEYOND excited and engaged in the conversation of what comes next (with construction, etc) to the point that it caused him to be emotionally invested in this in a positive way. We’ve been fortunate enough that he has been to MK at least 5 times now and his eyes see this as advancement and something his generation will enjoy for years to come with his kids.Nobody applies logic on this site it’s always overly emotional on any changes Disney makes.
I always try to be understanding but then the same posters turn the discussion into a politics thread which I’m not here for.
This is not Fox News or CNN but a theme park fan site. I shouldn’t be seeing words like woke or DEI used as justifications to attack a company.
agreed but they truly do not want core fans (they are more respected at Disneyland), here they want the clueless tourist who will spend spend spend. And anything with too much Americana now they are afraid it's offending....sad but true.I never understood the Speedway in Tomorrowland. It was tucked away enough where I could ignore what I thought was misplacement. There’s no way to ignore Cars (with cartoon faces) in Frontierland. It’s so odd, and I can’t think of how even re-naming this land will really work in a real way.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt with the Epcot re-do and their vision for the new sections and in turn their naming. How that turned out, I truly don’t trust that this land re-do will land right.
The artists are being subverted by “spreadsheeters”. The grand spectacle that were each of the parks are being broken down into circus tent shows - the antithesis of what Walt set out for. I felt the spread of this approach was contained to things like Beauty and the Beast being shoe-horned into Grand Floridian or Ratatouille gently folding into France. Things that might interrupt my sensibilities but the whole staying cohesive enough.
But this expansion feels like the walls of un-visioning have finally broke into Magic Kingdom - a continuation of the horrendous new sight lines of the Polynesian tower, the absurdity of the grey box of the Riviera, Incredibles floating through Contemporary.
When we combine the ignorance of aesthetic and place with the gaul of raising prices so high and insulting add ons, well they’re really losing their grip on both fantasy and reality.
They should be listening to core fans. Their intensity of view on these things are what the “common” visitor cannot articulate themselves but are paying for when they visit. When you lose your core, it’s a race to the lowest common denominator. “Core” demographics and growth demographics might not align, however there is an artists’ way to lead that overlap and its up to the business side to follow. Right now, it’s reverse.
There was just a thread a couple of days ago about how overrated Joe Rohde is/was and how he doesn't deserve to be a Disney Legend.Their recent track record, outside of anything Joe Rhode has done, is atrocious.
It wasn’t even on my radar, but this legitimately may be my breaking point.
It’s not that they don’t care about classic attractions or originality, this is just heinous.
Their recent track record, outside of anything Joe Rhode has done, is atrocious.
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