Also, in re: ROA, I am less excited about the possibility of a partial retheme to the national parks, but that's not any more Native friendly than the current ROA.
The only way to make this really work is to have the backside look like the dry west, not the Pacific Northwest and its evergreens. They would need to double to old west buildings on both sides of the street. I guess that is why the boat landing building is staying.
The root issue isn’t replacement. It’s a complete ignoring of context. This project is not actually responding the fundamental design and organization of Liberty Square and Frontierland. It’s a McMansion being plopped into an old neighborhood.
You are, but I think it's unfair to compare TSI/RoA to the majesty, beauty and inspiring views found in an actual national park. To say that national park popularity in anyway translates into TSI/RoA. One is a fake recreation that is oddly located in a theme park with rides.
12-15 years ago, I would have been pumped.
No no no. It will become Woodys rootinist tootinist run away railroad.
I agree 100%. The problem though, is Disney isn't at that point of need yet. They have more than enough space to expand all the parks with no loss of existing attractions. They have spots where they've closed things just sitting empty. Stitch, wonders of life, animation courtyard... I can see when they close or swap very low rated attractions. But unless it's a Stich level attraction, it doesn't need to go away. They have the space, they have the demand for something new and they need the capacity. It should be a no brainer for Disney, but sadly it's not.
I don't think there is enough detail in the sketch to come to that conclusion yet.
Western movies and tv shows were incredibly popular when Frontier Land was conceived. Designing this land then was indeed a business decision back then. Disney knew then that a Frontier Land would bring in the crowds and the dollars. That time had passed. The people in charge now are likely making the same decisions the ones in charge then would have made. What’s going to make young crowds convince their parents to bring them to Disney? TSI and ROA aren’t it. I will miss the views in that area but totally get this decision either way. On to new Horizons I guess we could say??
People don’t go into those spaces because they’ve been stripped of their program.
Oops, I confused you with the OP to the comment.
And you're right, no matter how much the vocal majority opinion online seems to be that this is a bad idea, it won't change anything. This isn't a rumor that can be stopped before it even hits production, this is a plan already approved and budgeted for. We could save the Country Bears, but we can't save the Rivers of America.
That wouldn't be bad actually just add a few Woody and Jessie and Bullseye animatronics shoutin " YeeeHaa!" and "There's a Snake in My Boot" far more enriching alongside a real Cars Land in the distance with Radiator Spring's and RSR out Northwest. This makes it Walt Disney World's finest. Not take a Californian West Lookin DCA Grizzly Mountain Terrain Coast concept and shove it in our TSI.
